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Hines 03-01-2012 03:25 PM

Pro Day Discussion Thread
 
Here is the schedule. Discuss all things Pro Day.



March 1: Missouri

March 2: Cincinnati

March 5: Alabama-Birmingham, Georgia, Hawaii, Indiana, McNeese State

March 6: Alabama A&M, Arkansas, Auburn, California Lutheran, Clark, Eastern Kentucky, Georgia Tech, Illinois, Liberty, Rhode Island, Sacramento State, Tarleton State, UCLA, Valdosta State

March 7: Alabama, California-Davis, Colgate, Eastern Washington, Fordham, Fort Valley, Kent State, Kentucky, Louisville, Northern Colorado, Southern California, Texas A&M, UTEP, Wisconsin


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March 8: Akron, Alabama State, Buffalo, Clemson, Colorado, Miami (Fla.), Mississippi State, Nebraska, North Alabama, Northwestern, Ohio, Syracuse, Texas Tech, Washington, West Texas, Western Kentucky, Wofford, Wyoming, Youngstown State


March 9: Florida International, Furman, Mississippi, Montana, Northern Illinois, Ohio State, Oklahoma State, Presbyterian, Purdue, TCU, Troy, Washington State


March 12: Air Force, Arkansas-Monticello, Central Michigan, Central Washington, Pittsburgh, Tulsa, Wayne State


March 13: Ball State, California (Pa.), Florida, Kansas State, Marshall, North Texas, Sacramento State, Slippery Rock, Toledo, Western Michigan


March 14: Bowling Green, California, Central Arkansas, Central Oklahoma, Eastern Michigan, Florida State, Grambling, Kansas, Kansas State, Louisiana-Monroe, Maryland, Michigan State, Mount Union, Oklahoma, Penn State, Portland State, Tennessee Tech

March 15: Delaware State, Louisiana Tech, Michigan, UNLV, Nicholls State, Oregon, Southern Illinois, Townson, Tusculum, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Wayne State (Mich.), William & Mary

March 16: Arizona State, James Madison, Missouri State, Oregon State, Richmond, Temple, Tennessee, West Virginia


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March 19: Appalachian State, Arizona, Florida Atlantic, Iowa, Montana State, Rice, Southern, Wake Forest

March 20: Brown, Idaho, Iowa State, Louisiana-Lafayette, Monmouth, New Hampshire, North Carolina, North Carolina A&T, South Florida, Texas

March 21: Baylor, Boston College, Houston, N.C. State, North Dakota State, Rutgers, San Diego State, San Jose State, Tulane, Western Kentucky

March 22: East Carolina, LSU, Maine, Memphis, Middle Tennessee State, South Dakota, South Dakota State, Stanford, Tennessee-Chattanooga

March 23: Cornell, Jackson State, Missouri Western, N.C. Central, Southern Mississippi, Stonybrook, Vanderbilt

March 26: Indiana State

March 27: Arkansas State, Coastal Carolina, Merrimack College, Stephen F. Austin, Washburn

March 28: Central Florida, Connecticut, Newberry, Northern Iowa, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Carolina State

March 29: Brigham Young, Georgia Southern

March 30: Bethune-Cookman, Dartmouth

April 3: Abilene Christian, Notre Dame

April 4: SMU

Hines 03-01-2012 03:27 PM

Miami(OH) had theirs today. Combine snub Brandon Brooks had an excellent showing. Here is what Tony Pauline had to say about this workout. Pretty impressive and I hope the Steelers take him in the third.

• After sizzling during the testing portion of his workout, Brandon Brooks continued to impress during a 10-minute segment of position drills. According to scouts Brooks moved well around the field, looking fluid and smooth. At one point during bag drills he knocked over a coach from the Pittsburgh Steelers after violently striking the bag with his powerful hand punch.
Brooks is slated for a second workout next Thursday, March 8, where he will solely participate in offensive line drills. The expectations from NFL decision makers at the workout is Brooks will be the first non-combine participant drafted in April.
• There's no rest for the weary, as less than 48 hours after completion of the NFL combine in Indianapolis, scouts, coaches and general managers begin criss-crossing the nation to attend college pro days. Over the next four weeks, NFL hopefuls will be measured, tested, interviewed and drilled as teams ready their draft boards for April's event.
Two pro days started off the schedule today: Missouri and Miami-Ohio.
The Miami pro day is important, as offensive lineman Brandon Brooks, considered the highest rated player not invited to the combine, took the field. More than two dozen teams were on hand to watch Brooks today, and he did not disappoint.
The big offensive lineman measured 6-foot-5 and weighed 346 pounds. He completed 36 reps on the bench press, a number exceeded by just one offensive lineman at the combine. The same can be said for Brooks' 4.98 40 time, which included a 10-yard split of 1.71 seconds. Only Donald Stephenson ran faster at the combine. His vertical jump of 32 inches and broad jump of 8-feet, 9-inches were also superb. The 4.52 short shuttle time beat all marks from the offensive linemen who ran in Indianapolis.
Brooks in presently participating in offensive line drills for the position coaches and scouts on hand.
The big story for prospects not invited to the combine surrounds the alleged super-regional combine, which takes place at Ford Field in Detroit the final two days of March. Reports had as many as 100 of the top players not in Indianapolis last week receiving invitations to this smaller scouting event. Early excitement about the event, however, soon dissipated once the details were closely inspected.
Unlike the Indianapolis combine, the top players invited to Ford Field will have to pay their own travel expenses to and from Detroit, which does not sit well with many. Worse yet, players are reportedly participating in just a few of the combine tests (40-yard sprint, short shuttle, vertical jump and L-drill) and critical medical exams will not be performed at the regional combine.


Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz1nu2SzlPP

jrdrylie 03-01-2012 03:27 PM

Miami (OH) Guard Brandon Brooks had a very good pro day. He showed great athleticism (4.98, 32 inch vertical) and is a very big guy at 346. Not sure why he didn't get a Combine invite.

JHL6719 03-01-2012 08:06 PM

Any results from Missouri's pro day?

holt_bruce81 03-01-2012 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JHL6719 (Post 2882638)
Any results from Missouri's pro day?

Lot of guys just stuck with their combine results.

Wes Kemp ran a 4.55 and 4.46 and did 22 reps on the bench. Those are pretty good times because I really thought he was a 4.68-4.75 guy.

Dan Hoch measured in at 6'6 320 pounds, had a 5.25 forty yard dash and 4.73 short shuttle.

Austin Wuebbels did 40 reps on the bench.

Missouri Linebacker Zavier Gooden who's a Senior next year ran 4.36 in the 40. Things I've heard is his personal best has been 4.32. He might be a guy to look for the in combine next season.

freeupfreeney 03-02-2012 11:27 AM

I think Iowa, Nevada Arkansas and Oklahoma are gonna have the biggest Pro days because of the Players involved.

Pat Sims 90 03-02-2012 11:29 AM

All 32 teams had some form of representative at the Cincinnati Pro Day.

iowatreat54 03-02-2012 01:14 PM

Iowa had 3 pro days last year because that's how we roll.

I think this year will be huge in determining where McNutt, Prater, and even Adam Gettis get drafted. If McNutt can put up another solid 40 and look better on his catching drills, he will get a nice boost. And if Gettis puts up ridiculous numbers again, people might forget that he's never healthy.

Prater is a ? because I don't think he did much at the combine (or I just missed it). He was supposed to be one of the fastest guys on Iowa the last couple years. Also, sucks that Zusevics got hurt at the combine, this would have been huge for him as well.

niel89 03-05-2012 12:54 AM

The nfl.com proday blog is a pretty good way to keep track of some results. Maybe add this to the first post?

http://blogs.nfl.com/category/pro-days/

niel89 03-05-2012 01:07 AM

Also what proday #'s are acceptable to compare to combine #s? I know the 40 isn't comparable because of the field differences, but what about Height, Weight, Vert, Bench, and Broad Jump? Are those safely comparable?

I ask because this TE from Cinci, Adrien Robinson, checked in at 6-4 264, 39.5 vert, 11-3 broad jump and 15 bench. 40 was 4.55 to boot. His vert and broad jump would have been bests for a TE at the combine. Bad production, but Interesting H/W/S prospect.

ATLDirtyBirds 03-05-2012 12:19 PM

4.75 and 4.9 from Orson. Ew. Welcome back to being my number #1 TE Mr. Fleener.


Edit: Not overreacting, always had them close, recently moved Orson slightly ahead. And I still think he plays more like a mid 4.5 guy, but when your game is as speed based as his, you need better times.

Diehard 03-05-2012 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ATLDirtyBirds (Post 2887366)
4.75 and 4.9 from Orson. Ew. Welcome back to being my number #1 TE Mr. Fleener.

Edit: Not overreacting, always had them close, recently moved Orson slightly ahead. And I still think he plays more like a mid 4.5 guy, but when your game is as speed based as his, you need better times.

I agree. His value is rooted in his ability to stretch the defense and create mismatches in the passing game. Those times don't help his case.

ATLDirtyBirds 03-05-2012 02:13 PM

Apparently there was crazy wind at the Georgia Pro Day. Still though, those times make you really look at why Charles didn't run in Indy.

Master Exploder 03-05-2012 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATLDirtyBirds (Post 2887366)
4.75 and 4.9 from Orson. Ew. Welcome back to being my number #1 TE Mr. Fleener.


Edit: Not overreacting, always had them close, recently moved Orson slightly ahead. And I still think he plays more like a mid 4.5 guy, but when your game is as speed based as his, you need better times.

What about the 4.47 and 4.67 that he ran against the wind? Were those unofficial times?

Edit: Nevermind, just found the source. Those were times from another source. The 4.75 and 4.9 were the official times. Regardless, I can attest for the wind here in Athens. It's unbelievable. I drive a Z-71 and I was getting pushed around on the road.

ellsy82 03-06-2012 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Master Exploder (Post 2887591)
What about the 4.47 and 4.67 that he ran against the wind? Were those unofficial times?

Edit: Nevermind, just found the source. Those were times from another source. The 4.75 and 4.9 were the official times. Regardless, I can attest for the wind here in Athens. It's unbelievable. I drive a Z-71 and I was getting pushed around on the road.

Try the wind in Iowa. 70 degrees, with snow on the ground, and its still whipping through here at 50 miles per hour.

Dan_Steele 03-06-2012 07:56 PM

Whats everybody's thoughts on Arkansas RB/FB Broderick Green? Seems like he put together quite a good workout today and from what I hear he is a great locker room presence as well. He transferred at Arkansas from USC because of family issues. Anybody see any good tape on this kid? He sure is intriguing.

Hines 03-06-2012 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan_Steele (Post 2889293)
Whats everybody's thoughts on Arkansas RB/FB Broderick Green? Seems like he put together quite a good workout today and from what I hear he is a great locker room presence as well. He transferred at Arkansas from USC because of family issues. Anybody see any good tape on this kid? He sure is intriguing.

Should have listened to his parents and went to Penn State.

JHL6719 03-06-2012 09:12 PM

Any results from UCLA pro day? I know the parents were banned from being able to watch their kids (which is ridiculous), but I can't find anything on how any of the prospects performed.....

bearsfan_51 03-07-2012 11:07 AM

Minnesota had their pro day. They don't have many real prospects this year, but DT Anthony Jacobs should get some attention.

He ran a 4.7 40, but even more impressive, had a 35.5 vertical leap, which is the best I've heard for a DT this year. Michael Brockers had a 26.5 vertical, Fletcher Cox had a 26 vertical.

He weighed in at 291, so he'll be a UT or 3-4 DE in the pros or have to put on weight, but that vertical alone makes him worth a flyer in the pros.

bruschis4all 03-07-2012 04:39 PM

Anyone find it odd that the Patriots let Ryan Mallett throw at the Arkansas pro day yesterday? Is that a common thing? To have a former qb come back and throw. Isn't Tyler Wilson allowed to do it? Or, Belichick showcasing Mallett a little.

TACKLE 03-07-2012 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bruschis4all (Post 2890520)
Anyone find it odd that the Patriots let Ryan Mallett throw at the Arkansas pro day yesterday? Is that a common thing? To have a former qb come back and throw. Isn't Tyler Wilson allowed to do it? Or, Belichick showcasing Mallett a little.

He is not. There is a rule against underclassmen performing in positional drills at pro days.

holt_bruce81 03-07-2012 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TACKLE (Post 2890541)
He is not. There is a rule against underclassmen performing in positional drills at pro days.

They can run though right?

Dan_Steele 03-07-2012 09:26 PM

- Wisconsin's Pro Day seemed to go very well for Kevin Zeitler. Apparently scouts were leaving the work out calling him "outstanding."

- After today there are also rumors that Konz may be quickly rising up draft boards due to his ability to not only play center, but guard, and even right tackle in the pros, a lot like New Mexico's Ryan Cook from a few years back.

- A small schooler also impressed at the badger Pro Day. Beloit's Derek Carrier put up monster numbers, including a 6.69 3-Cone Drill!!! He was three sport athlete all through college and put up great numbers on the football field his senior season. His raw potential will certainly make a team take a late round flyer on him.

Caulibflower 03-07-2012 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan_Steele (Post 2890842)
- A small schooler also impressed at the badger Pro Day. Beloit's Derek Carrier put up monster numbers, including a 6.69 3-Cone Drill!!! He was three sport athlete all through college and put up great numbers on the football field his senior season. His raw potential will certainly make a team take a late round flyer on him.

What were his other numbers? All I see online is a site saying he's listed as 6'4 235, so that 3-cone time is nuts. My ears are perked up. What did he run in the 40? Vertical? Actual W/H? Did he run routes?

niel89 03-08-2012 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Caulibflower (Post 2890948)
What were his other numbers? All I see online is a site saying he's listed as 6'4 235, so that 3-cone time is nuts. My ears are perked up. What did he run in the 40? Vertical? Actual W/H? Did he run routes?

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A player that emerged at the pro day was wide receiver Derek Carrier, hailing from Division III school Beloit. Carrier mesasured 6’3″ 240pounds, ran a 40 under 4.5, measured a 40-inch vertical, 10-2 broad, and 6.69 3-cone drill. Carrier led the Beloit Buccaneers last year with 75 catches for 1,250 yards and 12 touchdowns. His workout had scouts “scrambling” for more tape per Pauline.
http://falcfans.com/falcons-pro-day-round-up-37-5600

Very interesting prospect for a DIII player. He must have just slipped through the cracks. This proday might be enough to get him drafted now. I know I wouldn't mind spending a 6th or 7th.


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