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Bulldogs 03-02-2012 02:10 PM

Saints violate "bounty rule"
Apparently from 2009-11 the Saints had players put money in a cash pool, and were paid for hurting players or knocking them out of games. I'm sure they aren't the only team, but there was a huge investigation by the NFL and they were caught. They will now probably be penalized. Thoughts?

I'll get a link in a second.

vidae 03-02-2012 02:11 PM

It's all over NFLN now. They're screwed.

Bulldogs 03-02-2012 02:12 PM

Here's the link.


FlyingElvis 03-02-2012 02:12 PM

Oh yay, a "scandal" to which the media will immediately attach the word "gate."

Que the idealist fools who will feel like this is some atrocity that their organization Would never do.

Matthew Jones 03-02-2012 02:13 PM

And now Williams is playing for Jeff Fisher, whose Titans teams were consistently regarded as extremely dirty by opposing players. What a surprise.

Crazy_Chris 03-02-2012 02:14 PM

Yea I have been seeing this all over twitter... I am not shocked, it was fairly obvious that the Saints defense were trying to hit Brett even if it was late in the '09 NFCCG.

Edit:Adam Schefter tweeted that Gregg Williams administered the bounty program

Ravens1991 03-02-2012 02:14 PM

I cant believe they got caught honestly. One year Suggs said on first take talked about how they dont like rookie RBs talking **** so the bounty was out on Mendenhall and the bounty is out on Ward. When they said bounties were illegal he said he thought a bounty was people just looking for people with no $ involved and we werent caught.

Bulldogs 03-02-2012 02:14 PM

They are saying it was the reason Kurt Warner and Brett Favre got hurt against them. I remember that Warner hit being huge, he got jacked up by some defensive end after throwing a pick. They for sure weren't the only team doing this, hell, I'd guess the majority of the teams have something like this.

NOLAFan 03-02-2012 02:14 PM

sounds like Greg Williams to me

mightytitan9 03-02-2012 02:14 PM

After all that and they still couldn't stop anyone on D

Saints-Tigers 03-02-2012 02:15 PM

Maybe they should start a new pool, where players get money for being good on defense.

BmoreBlackByrdz 03-02-2012 02:16 PM

I mean, with all the rules built up to help the offenses these days, I guess this is what defenses are forced to do. lol

FlyingElvis 03-02-2012 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by njx9 (Post 2883655)
still bitter?


I'm sure I have no idea what you mean.


Jimmy 03-02-2012 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by FlyingElvis (Post 2883643)
Oh yay, a "scandal" to which the media will immediately attach the word "gate."

Que the idealist fools who will feel like this is some atrocity that their organization Would never do.


Giantsfan1080 03-02-2012 02:22 PM

This is so dumb. I hope the penalty isn't anything crazy.

Crazy_Chris 03-02-2012 02:23 PM


The program runs in violation of league rules, and the investigation showed that Saints players received $1,500 for a “knockout” hit and $1,000 for a “cart-off” hit with payouts doubling or tripling during the team's three playoffs appearance.

SuperPacker 03-02-2012 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by Jimmy (Post 2883665)


FlyingElvis 03-02-2012 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by Jimmy (Post 2883665)


Originally Posted by SuperPacker (Post 2883674)

You both give the media too much credit. It's a lock to be BountyGate.

bigbluedefense 03-02-2012 02:34 PM

Good. I like bounties. **** offense.

They can go after defenders knees, cheap shot them (Looking at you Hines), pull on their face masks, etc.

But god forbid you hit an offensive player. All these damn diva WRs who can't get touched and then dance and celebrate after every first down like they're hot ****.

**** that. Hit em in the mouth. More teams should do this, if not already. Bring back real defense. Intimidation is a big part of defense. Stop wuffisying the league.

mightytitan9 03-02-2012 02:36 PM

if it went on for a year I don't think it'd be anything to serious, but for the length of time it could end up costing them a decent chunk of money and or draft pick

OSUGiants17 03-02-2012 02:37 PM

boknows34 03-02-2012 02:38 PM

Statement from Tom Benson.

"I have been made aware of the NFL’s findings relative to the “Bounty Rule” and how it relates to our club. I have offered and the NFL has received our full cooperation in their investigation. While the findings may be troubling, we look forward to putting this behind us and winning more championships in the future for our fans."

asdf1223 03-02-2012 02:40 PM

The NFL should take away the Saints first round pick for this.

fear the elf 03-02-2012 02:41 PM

I don't think eliminating incentives for causing injuries is wussifying the league. Playing hard, within the confines of the rules I'm OK with; promoting the injuring of players, possibly causing permanent and irreparable damage to their mind or body, I'm not OK with.

Mr. Goosemahn 03-02-2012 02:42 PM

How likely is it they lose a first or second round pick? That would be very harsh, IMO, but Goodell likes to make examples out of people.

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