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Giantsfan1080 03-12-2012 03:04 PM

Cowboys&Redskins=DUMB
 
From Adam Schefter Twitter:

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NFL is taking away millions of dolllar of salary-cap space from Cowboys and Redskins for how they front-loaded deals during uncapped year.
I wonder how much.

killxswitch 03-12-2012 03:07 PM

It's nice when egomaniacs are forcefully reminded that the rules still apply to them too.

vidae 03-12-2012 03:08 PM

No one calls Daniel Snyder or Jerry Jones names! No one!

BeerBaron 03-12-2012 03:10 PM

At least I provided some insight in the thread I started for it. Hmph.

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Originally Posted by BeerBaron (Post 2897517)
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...nt-some-teams/

Quick summary for those who will say tldnr:

When the CBA was expiring, 2010 was a year without a salary cap. The NFL instructed teams not to use that year to do as a way to dump money in order to ensure that cap numbers in years with a salary cap would be lower.

Several teams, including the Cowboys and Redskins, are accused of doing this and may face penalties from the league office because of it.

For example, in that uncapped year, gave Miles Austin no signing bonus but a base salary of $17 million. All of that money came off the books that year and when the salary cap returned, his base salary dropped to $1.15 million.

Not expected to be as bad as the bounties, but it could bite the teams in the ass.


Giantsfan1080 03-12-2012 03:10 PM

Yea but my headline is a lot better!!!

descendency 03-12-2012 03:10 PM

Why?

I have to say that this kind of penalty reeks of collusion. If there was no cap, then there should be no penalty for spending that kind of money in the uncapped year. If there was an under the table agreement on what to spend (or not spend), then that's collusion.

The NFLPA is probably going to be furious.

D-Unit 03-12-2012 03:12 PM


BeerBaron 03-12-2012 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantsfan1080 (Post 2897528)
Yea but my title is a lot better!!!

Your title is uninformative and will only spark harsh, homeristic reactions from Cowboys and Redskins fans against a Giants fan.

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Originally Posted by descendency (Post 2897530)
Why?

I have to say that this kind of penalty reeks of collusion. If there was no cap, then there should be no penalty for spending that kind of money in the uncapped year. If there was an under the table agreement on what to spend (or not spend), then that's collusion.

The NFLPA is probably going to be furious.

They have all the power of a flea. They came away from that farce of a lockout with few victories and the NFL is as strong as ever.

WCH 03-12-2012 03:14 PM

Uh oh...

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/111080709.html

The Packers saving grace could be that front-loaded contracts are TTs MO.

vidae 03-12-2012 03:14 PM

Per Adam Schefter, Cowboys lose $10m, Redskins lose $36m in cap space. They can split it over 2012 and 2013 any way they want.

I lold

BeerBaron 03-12-2012 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by WCH (Post 2897540)
Uh oh...

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/111080709.html

The Packers saving grace could be that front-loaded contracts are TTs MO.

This part:

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it is believed there is no signing bonus and that the $6 million was simply added onto his new, inflated base salary for the rest of 2010.
Is exactly why these teams are going to be in trouble. 2010 was the year with no cap btw.

WCH 03-12-2012 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by descendency (Post 2897530)
Why?

I have to say that this kind of penalty reeks of collusion. If there was no cap, then there should be no penalty for spending that kind of money in the uncapped year. If there was an under the table agreement on what to spend (or not spend), then that's collusion.

The NFLPA is probably going to be furious.

I agree that this sounds a lot like collusion. I'm guessing their legal team has spent a chunk of the past year figuring out a way to make this fly, though.

killxswitch 03-12-2012 03:18 PM

$10M for the Cowboys across 2 years is not the end of the world. $36M for the Skins, right when they're getting RG3 and wanting to build up, yeah. That sucks. Good job morons.

brat316 03-12-2012 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by WCH (Post 2897540)
Uh oh...

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/111080709.html

The Packers saving grace could be that front-loaded contracts are TTs MO.

i wanna see them get hit so we can see what type of thread Jmike makes. WE'll just have to wait :waiting:

zachsaints52 03-12-2012 03:18 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3939011

During the first 13 months of the contract, Haynesworth will earn approximately $32 million.

Theres where the Redskins are losing most of their money.
There goes VJax. for them

There goes Nicks for Cowboys.

D-Unit 03-12-2012 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by vidae (Post 2897542)
Per Adam Schefter, Cowboys lose $10m, Redskins lose $36m in cap space. They can split it over 2012 and 2013 any way they want.

I lold

Split over 2 years? mmk. For the Cowboys that's not a big deal afterall.

Teams like the Chiefs consistently stay that much under that cap or more every year, if you think about it that way. lol

brat316 03-12-2012 03:22 PM

losing 36 million or 18 this year, 18 next year. Wouldn't that put them over the cap?

Also :lol: I wonder if they regret now sending 3 first round picks for number 2. Plan probably was to sign FAs, but now that seems outrageous.

wait nvm. Next year they get a super jump in the cap, so they can do like 10 million this year and like 26 next year.

vidae 03-12-2012 03:22 PM

We don't overpay for players either though!

D-Unit 03-12-2012 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zachsaints52 (Post 2897552)
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3939011

During the first 13 months of the contract, Haynesworth will earn approximately $32 million.

Theres where the Redskins are losing most of their money.
There goes VJax. for them

There goes Nicks for Cowboys.

We don't want Nicks as much as Mario and Carr. We'll still be able to afford them, so don't get your hopes up too much.

D-Unit 03-12-2012 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by vidae (Post 2897561)
We don't overpay for players either though!

Who on the Cowboys is overpaid?

vidae 03-12-2012 03:24 PM

I have no idea. I was just joshin ya. Please stay away from Carr though.

zachsaints52 03-12-2012 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by D-Unit (Post 2897562)
We don't want Nicks as much as Mario and Carr. We'll still be able to afford them, so don't get your hopes up too much.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/142354065.html

According to this, they only had 4.6 mil available.

NY+Giants=NYG 03-12-2012 03:27 PM

I love it! Good job Jerry and Synderbrenner! Was this Bruce Allen or Vin Cerrato era?

Jughead10 03-12-2012 03:27 PM

"All that money goes to 28 other teams -- $1.6 million each -- except for Saints and Raiders, who don't get any but don't lose any."

Haha. We could really use that 1.6 million. Thanks Jerry and Dan.

Sloopy 03-12-2012 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by D-Unit (Post 2897565)
Who on the Cowboys is overpaid?

No one this year... they all made their money when there wasn't a cap :P


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