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BaLLiN 03-18-2012 04:36 PM

Matt Flynn to Seattle
 
Per NFL network 3 years 26 million, 10 million guaranteed

Adam Schefter report

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/77...al-source-says


vidae 03-18-2012 04:37 PM

Great deal for Seattle. If he doesn't pan out they didn't spend much.

Caulibflower 03-18-2012 04:42 PM

Yep, that's a good price for us. Short enough that if it turns out his big games were flukes, we're not stuck.

gpngc 03-18-2012 04:43 PM

As long as Peyton Manning doesn't sign with San Francisco, this Seattle roster has the talent to win the NFC West.

On paper, they don't have any glaring weaknesses, but that's assuming Flynn wasn't just a product of Green Bay's extremely QB-friendly system. Whatever the case, he'll have a running game to lean on. He has to be an upgrade over T-Jack.

And defensively, the Seahawks added Jason Jones this week to a top-10 unit.

The roster is shaping up nicely. And now they can use pick #12 on Kuechly, DeCastro, or a pass rusher.

Caddy 03-18-2012 04:43 PM

This is a pretty fantastic deal. Not too much that they are on the hook for big money (*cough* Kevin Kolb *cough*) and just enough time to actually see what he can do.

SuperPacker 03-18-2012 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caulibflower (Post 2910193)
Yep, that's a good price for us. Short enough that if it turns out his big games were flukes, we're not stuck.

I like Seattle to be a surprise playoff team next year.

SuperPacker 03-18-2012 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caddy (Post 2910197)
This is a pretty fantastic deal. Not too much that they are on the hook for big money (*cough* Kevin Kolb *cough*) and just enough time to actually see what he can do.

The Cards would of only lost 4mill if the cut Kolb last week. IMO they should of just gone with Skelton and save them having that useless ****!

Caddy 03-18-2012 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperPacker (Post 2910200)
The Cards would of only lost 4mill if the cut Kolb last week. IMO they should of just gone with Skelton and save them having that useless ****!

But they didn't and just paid him another 7 million via bonus. So yeah...

Halsey 03-18-2012 04:47 PM

A lot of people will praise this move because the Seahawks didn't pay Kolb money. However, the fact that Flynn couldn't get Kolb money is not a good sign. If teams thought Flynn had a great chance of being a quality starter, there would have been a bigger market for him. This is a brilliant signing by Seattle if Flynn is even an average starter, but if he sucks, they'll just be spinning their wheels.

Caulibflower 03-18-2012 04:48 PM

Didn't work out too badly the last time we signed a Packers backup.

gpngc 03-18-2012 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halsey (Post 2910203)
A lot of people will praise this move because the Seahawks didn't pay Kolb money. However, the fact that Flynn couldn't get Kolb money is not a good sign. If teams thought Flynn had a great chance of being a quality starter, there would have been a bigger market for him. This is a brilliant signing by Seattle if Flynn is even an average starter, but if he sucks, they'll just be spinning their wheels.


gpngc 03-18-2012 04:51 PM

Flynn is pretty much a prospect. A very unique one, but still essentially not much different than a draft pick. One that would go very high based on what we've seen from him.

You have to spend on prospects, whether that is with draft capital AND money or just money.

whatadai 03-18-2012 04:53 PM

Good thing for Lynch...they obviously aren't planning to air it out too much with Flynn, but have a decent enough QB to keep defenses honest. Now they need to go after Wallace and give him someone to throw to.

soybean 03-18-2012 04:53 PM

This is a great signing following the departure of the one time horrible signing (trade), Charlie Whitehurst.

BaLLiN 03-18-2012 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gpngc (Post 2910196)
As long as Peyton Manning doesn't sign with San Francisco, this Seattle roster has the talent to win the NFC West.

The problem is that out of the 4 of the choices we think he has (Tennessee, Miami, Denver, San Fran) that the 49ers have got to be considered the best team without him.

Personally, I would like to know why Flynn didn't start all the time at LSU. Perriloux took his job but then got suspended right? Not sold on Flynn, especially because he played the Lions who have one of the worst secondaries in the NFL. I don't recall the Patriots defense and if it wasn't good or not, but I wasn't overly impressed. AJ Feeley played that Patriots team and almost beat them as well that year (I'm pretty sure).

You are right though, Seattle is a very good team. i like what is going on there, besides the jerseys.

gpngc 03-18-2012 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whatadai (Post 2910223)
Good thing for Lynch...they obviously aren't planning to air it out too much with Flynn, but have a decent enough QB to keep defenses honest. Now they need to go after Wallace and give him someone to throw to.

They actually have the cap room to go after Wallace and I don't think pick #12 is too high if you can get a WR like him. So it's not a ridiculous suggestion.

But I think they like their receiving corps right now:

Sidney Rice
Doug Baldwin
Mike Williams
Ben Obomanu
Golden Tate
Kris Durham (4th-round pick last year)
Ricardo Lockette (scored a TD late last year)

It's not the most impressive group, but there's some depth. And the top 5 have proven that they can contribute as starters.

Complex 03-18-2012 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BaLLiN (Post 2910228)
The problem is that out of the 4 of the choices we think he has (Tennessee, Miami, Denver, San Fran) that the 49ers have got to be considered the best team without him.

Personally, I would like to know why Flynn didn't start all the time at LSU. Perriloux took his job but then got suspended right? Not sold on Flynn, especially because he played the Lions who have one of the worst secondaries in the NFL. I don't recall the Patriots defense and if it wasn't good or not, but I wasn't overly impressed. AJ Feeley played that Patriots team and almost beat them as well that year (I'm pretty sure).

You are right though, Seattle is a very good team. i like what is going on there, besides the jerseys.

He was the #1 recruit or in the top 5. I don't know if Perriloux and Flynn were ever on the same team though.

BaLLiN 03-18-2012 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whatadai (Post 2910223)
Good thing for Lynch...they obviously aren't planning to air it out too much with Flynn, but have a decent enough QB to keep defenses honest. Now they need to go after Wallace and give him someone to throw to.

Sidney Rice, Mike Williams, Zach Miller, Doug Baldwin, Golden Tate, Leon Washington...

Caulibflower 03-18-2012 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gpngc (Post 2910214)
Flynn is pretty much a prospect. A very unique one, but still essentially not much different than a draft pick. One that would go very high based on what we've seen from him.

You have to spend on prospects, whether that is with draft capital AND money or just money.

This is how I see it, too. And honestly, I don't see a big arm with Flynn, and the two defenses he torched were among the worst in the NFL the last couple of years. The Lions specifically this year looked like one of the worst secondaries I've ever seen. It's not like he was cutting them up with superhuman throws, they were constantly out of position and playing the ball poorly while he executed efficiently. But that's my worry - that he might not be anything more than efficient. I doubt it's realistic, but as a fan I'm still wondering if there's a way we'd end up with Tannehill and cutting Jackson, letting Flynn take over for the immediate future while the coaches see what the younger, rawer guy might have to offer. I know you don't want to put too much into a position, but we just haven't had much to get excited about for a looong time at QB. Even Hasselbeck was basically a first-tier game manager.

whatadai 03-18-2012 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gpngc (Post 2910230)
They actually have the cap room to go after Wallace and I don't think pick #12 is too high if you can get a WR like him. So it's not a ridiculous suggestion.

But I think they like their receiving corps right now:

Sidney Rice
Doug Baldwin
Mike Williams
Ben Obomanu
Golden Tate
Kris Durham (4th-round pick last year)
Ricardo Lockette (scored a TD late last year)

It's not the most impressive group, but there's some depth. And the top 5 have proven that they can contribute as starters.

I don't hate their WR corp either but none of those guys are a #1 or even close to one. Wallace as #1, Rice as #2 with Baldwin in the slot and Williams coming in in the red zone makes more sense to me.

Caulibflower 03-18-2012 05:02 PM

Also: WONDERLIIIIIIIIIIIIIC!

http://nflcombineresults.com/playerp...l=Flynn&i=7927

WCH 03-18-2012 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BaLLiN (Post 2910228)
The problem is that out of the 4 of the choices we think he has (Tennessee, Miami, Denver, San Fran) that the 49ers have got to be considered the best team without him.

Personally, I would like to know why Flynn didn't start all the time at LSU. Perriloux took his job but then got suspended right? Not sold on Flynn, especially because he played the Lions who have one of the worst secondaries in the NFL. I don't recall the Patriots defense and if it wasn't good or not, but I wasn't overly impressed. AJ Feeley played that Patriots team and almost beat them as well that year (I'm pretty sure).

You are right though, Seattle is a very good team. i like what is going on there, besides the jerseys.


XxXdragonXxX 03-18-2012 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whatadai (Post 2910223)
Good thing for Lynch...they obviously aren't planning to air it out too much with Flynn, but have a decent enough QB to keep defenses honest. Now they need to go after Wallace and give him someone to throw to.


Or hope that Sidney Rice can stay healthy. If he can, Flynn definitely has some weapons with him and Baldwin and Miller. Tate and Lockette also showed some promise at the end of the year.


I'm just so excited that Tarvaris Jackson won't be starting anymore. :banana:

whatadai 03-18-2012 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XxXdragonXxX (Post 2910248)
Or hope that Sidney Rice can stay healthy. If he can, Flynn definitely has some weapons with him and Baldwin and Miller. Tate and Lockette also showed some promise at the end of the year.


I'm just so excited that Tarvaris Jackson won't be starting anymore. :banana:

Carroll uses his TEs to block more than receive. I don't believe Miller will get many more targets than before.

asdf1223 03-18-2012 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whatadai (Post 2910255)
Carroll uses his TEs to block more than receive. I don't believe Miller will get many more targets than before.

No not at all. Our entire Saints gameplan was to exploit John Carlson versus Roman Harper. The first half of the season the rookies struggled mightily on the right side and the second half Tarvaris just didn't look that way.

The deal is actually worth 3yr/19 with possible incentives to reach 24. Makes it even better. I still hope they do draft a QB because Flynn has a pretty limited ceiling. But paying him total guaranteed what the Cards paid Kolb last year is a great deal.


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