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Scott Wright 04-24-2012 11:48 AM

Draft Countdown's Final Rankings
 
The final rankings for the 2012 NFL Draft are now live on the site!

I posted some links below for easy navigation. Feel free to discuss in this thread!

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Top 253 Overall - http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/TOP.php
Quarterback - http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/QB.php
Running Back - http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/RB.php
Fullback - http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/FB.php
Wide Receiver - http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/WR.php
Tight End - http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/TE.php
Offensive Tackle - http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/OT.php
Offensive Guard - http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/OG.php
Center - http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/C.php
Defensive End - http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/DE.php
Defensive Tackle - http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/DT.php
Outside Linebacker - http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/OLB.php
Inside Linebacker - http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/ILB.php
Cornerback - http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/CB.php
Safety - http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/S.php
Kicker - http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/K.php
Punter - http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/P.php
Long-Snapper - http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/LS.php
Return Specialist - http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/RS.php
Sleepers - http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/SLEEPERS.php
Overrated / Underrated - http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/OVERUNDER.php

princefielder28 04-24-2012 12:36 PM

Great work, Scott!

One name that I noticed make a huge jump, and I am of a fan of him as well, was that of Rennie Moore. Branch and Thompson got attention all year from that defensive line while Moore often went unmentioned but he can be a good rotational player in the league and worth a later round investment.

Scott Wright 04-24-2012 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by princefielder28 (Post 2963679)
Great work, Scott!

One name that I noticed make a huge jump, and I am of a fan of him as well, was that of Rennie Moore. Branch and Thompson got attention all year from that defensive line while Moore often went unmentioned but he can be a good rotational player in the league and worth a later round investment.

Moore kind of reminds me of Geno Atkins. Good athlete and I think he is versatile enough to help at multiple positions and / or in either a 4-3 or 3-4. Based on my rankings and the number of prospects usually selected at his position, Moore came out as a Late 5th / Early 6th Rounder.

princefielder28 04-24-2012 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Wright (Post 2963682)
Moore kind of reminds me of Geno Atkins. Good athlete and I think he is versatile enough to help at multiple positions and / or in either a 4-3 or 3-4. Based on my rankings and the number of prospects usually selected at his position, Moore came out as a Late 5th / Early 6th Rounder.

I would love for the Packers to add him with one of their 12 selections, and I like the comparison you make for him. If people are unfamilair with his game, go and watch the South Carolina game for this past season and he seemed to be living in the backfield during the game.

princefielder28 04-24-2012 12:50 PM

One position that I liked adjustments to was the tight end position. Taylor Thompson has as much upside as any player in the draft and will be worth the 3rd round pick that some team invests in him. When I talked to Bob McGinn, of the Journal Sentinel, this weekend he mentioned Adrien Robinson as someone that teams are really excited about and with so few "complete" tight ends in the class he could very well fill a niche for a team and go earlier than most would assume. Bob also said that Taylor Gentry (obviously not a tight end but a fullback) was catching the eye of teams.

killxswitch 04-24-2012 12:52 PM

Well I guess I have a lot of reading to do. Good work Scott.

Asteinebach 04-24-2012 01:00 PM

Really like the new rankings Scott. I'm especially fond of the new Over/Under section. I think you nailed it. Russell Wilson and Edwin Baker are both guys that can be contributors to NFL teams. Even as backup or rotational players, respectively, they offer great value later on.

I do have some beef though, I noticed that in your TE rankings you dropped LaDarius Green in favor of Egnew and Thompson. I think Thompson is a special interest story, not much in the way of long term potential at the TE position. Raises the question, where do you think Green presents a good value? Round 3-4?

Scott Wright 04-24-2012 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by princefielder28 (Post 2963701)
One position that I liked adjustments to was the tight end position. Taylor Thompson has as much upside as any player in the draft and will be worth the 3rd round pick that some team invests in him. When I talked to Bob McGinn, of the Journal Sentinel, this weekend he mentioned Adrien Robinson as someone that teams are really excited about and with so few "complete" tight ends in the class he could very well fill a niche for a team and go earlier than most would assume. Bob also said that Taylor Gentry (obviously not a tight end but a fullback) was catching the eye of teams.

Robinson is the tight end on my "Underrated" list, see the link above. :o)

Scott Wright 04-24-2012 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Asteinebach (Post 2963713)
I do have some beef though, I noticed that in your TE rankings you dropped LaDarius Green in favor of Egnew and Thompson. I think Thompson is a special interest story, not much in the way of long term potential at the TE position. Raises the question, where do you think Green presents a good value? Round 3-4?

Egnew was always ahead of Green. I did move Thompson up because he is bigger and I think offers more upside, at least for a more well-rounded game. Green is very one-dimensional.

Dan_Steele 04-24-2012 01:17 PM

Nick Perry, Whitney Mercilus, Vinny Curry & Shea McClellin not 1st Round worthy in your opinion?

Scott Wright 04-24-2012 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan_Steele (Post 2963737)
Nick Perry, Whitney Mercilus, Vinny Curry & Shea McClellin not 1st Round worthy in your opinion?

Nope, but they are all basically just outside.

Pretty sure I have all four in my Top 50 overall.

RaiderNation 04-24-2012 01:48 PM

Why is Miles Burris so low? In a draft with no depth at pass rusher after the first 3 rounds, Burris might be one of the best options to find a stand up pass rusher. Would love to see him in Oakland at SLB.

Also I just don't see the Chandler Jones hype everyone has jumped on, he'll be a top 50 pick but I honestly would take 5 other DE/OLB over him.

CashmoneyDrew 04-24-2012 02:05 PM

Malik Jackson is too low, and Tauren Poole is still ranked too high. :)

Dan_Steele 04-24-2012 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Wright (Post 2963759)
Nope, but they are all basically just outside.

Pretty sure I have all four in my Top 50 overall.

You do, but all are first rounders IMO. Mercilus is my top ranked pass rusher.

Asteinebach 04-24-2012 02:27 PM

It all looks good and well, when's your final mock draft going to be posted Scott?

coordinator0 04-24-2012 03:05 PM

I'm surprised to see Molk in the top 100. Looks like Olivier Vernon made a bit of a jump too.

Scott Wright 04-24-2012 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Asteinebach (Post 2963845)
It all looks good and well, when's your final mock draft going to be posted Scott?

Thursday morning. I've just begun working on it.

So far I am feeling pretty, pretty good about the top couple picks...

D-Unit 04-24-2012 04:33 PM

Are your rankings based off how well they'll be in the NFL or how high they'll be drafted or a combination of that... or something else?

Scott Wright 04-24-2012 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D-Unit (Post 2964048)
Are your rankings based off how well they'll be in the NFL or how high they'll be drafted or a combination of that... or something else?

I guess kind of a combination to a degree because if I heard a guy was going to be selected higher or lower than expected during the process I would go back and do some more research and possibly change my rankings accordingly. However, I would never move a prospect up or down in my rankings if I didn't feel it was appropriate because at the end of the day it's my name attached to them and they are how my credibility will be judged via the "Archives" section.

Scott Wright 04-24-2012 07:29 PM

Well, in the end I actually went back to Green over Thompson.

The more I thought about it I couldn't justify putting Thompson, who I've never seen play tight end, ahead of Green, who I've seen play the position a bunch on tape as well as in person at the Senior Bowl. Regardless they both have a very similar grade, late in the Top 100.

Asteinebach 04-24-2012 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Wright (Post 2964039)
Thursday morning. I've just begun working on it.

So far I am feeling pretty, pretty good about the top couple picks...

For the love of God, please find someone other than Jonathan Martin or Janoris Jenkins for my Lions. A little originality is encouraged late in round 1. Maybe Lavonte David, Whitney Mercilus, or even Cordy Glenn? :kiss:

703SKINS202 04-24-2012 10:23 PM

Surprised to see RG3 so low and Richardson so high overall.


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