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Mr. Goosemahn 05-11-2012 12:35 PM

Prospect of the Day: QB Landry Jones, Oklahoma
 
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QB Landry Jones, Oklahoma

#12 - 6'4 – 229 lbs. – 23 years old

















What do you guys think of him? Franchise QB candidate?


vidae 05-11-2012 12:41 PM

Over.. rated! clap clap clapclapclap! Over.. rated! clap clap clapclapclap.

Iamcanadian 05-11-2012 01:15 PM

If he has a solid season, no one will care what he did as a junior and he is quite capable of doing just that. You'd be surprised how many great NFL QB's had poor junior years only to rebound substantially as a senior and go on to have fine pro careers.

Raiderz4Life 05-11-2012 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by vidae (Post 2995343)
Over.. rated! clap clap clapclapclap! Over.. rated! clap clap clapclapclap.

I agree-ee-ee-ee clap clap clap clap!!

I came in just to say what Vid said, kid is overrated.

princefielder28 05-11-2012 02:06 PM

If there are any Jones supporters out there, the question I have for them is what does he do that's special or exceptional?

Big Bird 05-11-2012 02:15 PM

Why is this kid overrated? I just don't get why people hate on him so much.

I need to do so more in-depth tape study on him, but what I've seen so far, I love. He is the complete package as a quarterback. Nobody in this class has the arm talent this kid has. Landry is a great prospect, much better than Barkley in my opinion, who is truly overrated.

Landry isn't a statue in the pocket by any means. Is he "mobile"? Not exactly, but he can escape pressure and has shown the ability to step up in the pocket and sidestep pressure. That's something Barkley has struggled with, who takes too many false steps and doesn't throw with conviction.

Is Oklahoma's system slightly scary? Yes. But the Oklahoma system isn't Houston. They have a lot of creative underneath screens but when they aren't doing that, it's a lot of vertical spread, kind of similar to what Matt Ryan was running at Boston College (whom I compare Landry to).

Landry's footwork is solid overall. Needs some fine tuning, but certainly not terrible. The guy has shown great intermediate and deep accuracy, though his deep ball does get a little off at times, he never massively misses like I've seen from Barkley countless times.

I know it's only Ball State, but I do suggest looking at this footage:
http://youtu.be/j03RHG-IHMk

Again, yes, it's only Ball State. But look at the stick throws that he makes just simply all over the field. He tore the Cardinals up due to his great arm and poise (and because Oklahoma is a lot better).

It just doesn't seem that people have a real reason to doubt this guy. His interceptions are Matt Ryan type of interceptions, just trying to do too much at times. That's not necessarily terrible. I'm more worried about a prospect who is throwing picks due to a lack of arm strength or accuracy. That's not why Landry has thrown picks. The guy is a gunslinger, which you need to be in the NFL. He has confidence in his arm and isn't afraid to use it.

Dangermouse 05-11-2012 02:53 PM

Mid rounder

Big Bird 05-11-2012 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dangermouse (Post 2995509)
Mid rounder

Why? Or are we just going to see another bland statement declaring this guy isn't a 1st rounder with no backing to it?

I have yet to see a single Landry Jones doubter actually give a reasoning to doubting him...

holt_bruce81 05-11-2012 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Bird (Post 2995528)
Why? Or are we just going to see another bland statement declaring this guy isn't a 1st rounder with no backing to it?

I have yet to see a single Landry Jones doubter actually give a reasoning to doubting him...

He's really not that accurate on throws outside of 5-yards. And IMO he gets flustered to easily. Right now I wouldn't touch him in the first 2 rounds.

Big Bird 05-11-2012 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by holt_bruce81 (Post 2995709)
He's really not that accurate on throws outside of 5-yards. And IMO he gets flustered to easily. Right now I wouldn't touch him in the first 2 rounds.

So you had Ryan Tannehill as a top 20 prospect, who's accuracy was incredibly erratic, but don't think Landry Jones even belongs in the first two rounds?

I don't get how people say the guy is inaccurate down field yet praise Matt Barkley. Barkley constantly misses wide receivers deep. And it's not by a little, his passes are all over the place. Landry makes great stick throws constantly though.

FUNBUNCHER 05-11-2012 07:41 PM

Nice arm. Dallas will draft him and groom him to be Romo's backup. He needs to clean up his overall game next season and play up to his hype.

He's not a guy I would select to start as a rookie, but Jones is a great developmental guy you peg to start later in his career.

Matt Schaub level athlete with a bigger arm.

killxswitch 05-11-2012 07:48 PM

I want to see how he does feeling pressure in the pocket and making decisions under fire this year.

Dangermouse 05-12-2012 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Bird (Post 2995528)
Why? Or are we just going to see another bland statement declaring this guy isn't a 1st rounder with no backing to it?

I have yet to see a single Landry Jones doubter actually give a reasoning to doubting him...

He just throws swings, screens and the occasional 2 yard slant. Incredibly simplified offense, bad temperament and no arm. Poor man's Kellen Moore.

FUNBUNCHER 05-12-2012 06:03 PM

Landry Jones hasn't played consistent good football since 2010, which is why people are doubting his upside.

If Jones doesn't have a bang up senior year, he's going to slide IMO.
Poor man's Kellen Moore??lol.

I give Jones credit because he does have an arm, but he's just not playing good football right now.

Big Bird 05-12-2012 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dangermouse (Post 2996382)
He just throws swings, screens and the occasional 2 yard slant. Incredibly simplified offense, bad temperament and no arm. Poor man's Kellen Moore.

Are you serious? Landry Jones has one of the best arms in the class. The comparison you just made is a complete joke.

:gtfo:

Dangermouse 05-12-2012 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Bird (Post 2996420)
Are you serious? Landry Jones has one of the best arms in the class. The comparison you just made is a complete joke.

:gtfo:

If he has a big arm then I'm yet to see it. He just looks like a shotgun check down guy to me.


I haven't watched a great deal of tape yet but I certainly haven't seen any of those 60 yarders that Barkley makes with ease.

Raiderz4Life 05-12-2012 06:34 PM

I'm not a Landry fan but poor man's Kellen Moore? No way.

SickwithIt1010 05-12-2012 06:40 PM

I feel like the Kellen Moore statement was sarcasm...maybe? lol.

But for having such a HUGE arm, OU doesnt seem to let him throw the ball down the field.

Bubble, bubble, dig screen, slant, bubble, bubble, slant, dig screen.

SenorGato 05-12-2012 07:02 PM

I get the feeling I'll like him more than I "should" when I actually do watch him. The contrarian in me says he's probably being slept on right now. I liked him early on his career, but stopped watching because my team has its own struggling young QB to eat up time.

Big Bird 05-12-2012 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SickwithIt1010 (Post 2996437)
I feel like the Kellen Moore statement was sarcasm...maybe? lol.

But for having such a HUGE arm, OU doesnt seem to let him throw the ball down the field.

Bubble, bubble, dig screen, slant, bubble, bubble, slant, dig screen.

You do realize it's the same exact offense Sam Bradford played in, correct?

Teams don't change their schemes for players. Sorry, doesn't happen. They still do throw down field. They use the short game to set-up the deep game. They use it to the same effect other teams use their running games.

Raiderz4Life 05-12-2012 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Bird (Post 2996471)
You do realize it's the same exact offense Sam Bradford played in, correct?

Teams don't change their schemes for players. Sorry, doesn't happen. They still do throw down field. They use the short game to set-up the deep game. They use it to the same effect other teams use their running games.

How good has Bradford been with STL?

descendency 05-12-2012 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Bird (Post 2995468)
Why is this kid overrated? I just don't get why people hate on him so much.

His college coaches don't trust him in the red zone. Why should an NFL team?

Big Bird 05-12-2012 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by raiderz4life (Post 2996472)
How good has Bradford been with STL?

Not saying he has been great, but the guy was the 1st overall pick.

Quote:

Originally Posted by descendency (Post 2996488)
His college coaches don't trust him in the red zone. Why should an NFL team?

They don't trust a guy who has 39-3 TD-INT ratio in the redzone the past two seasons? They like to put Bell in because they tire teams out with their spread during drives and Bell pounds it in.

Bell had as many completions as interceptions last year. It's not a matter of not trusting Landry or thinking Bell is a superior quarterback.

onejayhawk 05-13-2012 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by vidae (Post 2995343)
Over.. rated! clap clap clapclapclap! Over.. rated! clap clap clapclapclap.

Not anymore. He was never close to a top 10 talent, but people are no talking day 3.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Bird (Post 2996420)
Are you serious? Landry Jones has one of the best arms in the class. The comparison you just made is a complete joke.

You dont need those comparisons. Watch him in conference last season, when he went head to head with three 1st round QBs. His arm is OK, maybe a bit better. About like Barkley.

J

FUNBUNCHER 05-13-2012 05:18 PM

Jones arm strength is far superior to Barkley's. It's the rest of Landry Jones game that's the problem.

If it was just arm strength that made someone an elite prospect, Jones would have been a top 5 pick this past April.


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