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princefielder28 09-08-2012 05:24 PM

Jordan Poyer : CB : Oregon State
 
Watching the first half of the Badgers-Beavers game, and he has been a player that has jumped off the screen and shut down his side of the field. He's also a weapon on special teams and during a year where there's really no clear cut #1 senior CB, this guy could very well take that title.


jared3 09-08-2012 07:26 PM

Poyer played really well. My top corners so far include: 1) Dee Milliner 2) Johnathan Banks 3) Xavier Rhodes 4) Jordan Poyer 5) David Amerson

princefielder28 10-06-2012 10:28 PM

3 INTs today...first round consideration???

rawdawg 10-07-2012 11:57 AM

I don't know about 1st round. But easily goes in the 2nd. I'm crossing my fingers that he's around for the Bears 2nd round pick and they select a Beaver defender for the 3rd straight year. He's a guy that can just cover. He won't wow you with his physique, great height/length, or 4.3 blazing speed, but he covers anyone you put in front of him. He doesn't lack for ball skills or speed. He's my Casey Hayward of this season (and I was in love with Casey, til he went to the Packers).

bucfan12 10-07-2012 12:22 PM

This guy is legit. Very underrated but that could change very soon.

BRAVEHEART 10-07-2012 02:52 PM

Shutdown Marquess Wilson.

San Diego Chicken 10-07-2012 07:29 PM

He's legit. Can play corner, safety, nickel corner... he's a D-coordinator's dream.

y.f.s. 10-07-2012 08:16 PM

Gonna cut a video of this dude, too since I already have UCLA vs oregon st

bulldog0123 10-10-2012 09:05 AM

Can't tackle.

princefielder28 10-13-2012 07:08 PM

INT for a TD against BYU to guarantee the victory...the MVP of the undefeated Beavers

gpngc 10-13-2012 07:12 PM

Nice call PF28. Bulldog, a lot of his highlight tapes include a bunch of big hits, forced fumbles, and closing on receivers before they catch the ball.

Care to elaborate? Is he a hit-or-miss tackler that whiffs at times?

norcalgsr 10-14-2012 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by princefielder28 (Post 3148859)
INT for a TD against BYU to guarantee the victory...the MVP of the undefeated Beavers

The INT was off a deflected pass. How many of this 3 INTs last week were in man coverage? Cody Hoffman beat him for a would-be TD on a out/corner route and he had to commit a Pass Interference penalty.

In last year's game, Hoffman also beat Poyer two times: one on a back shoulder throw for a TD, the other was a deep post where he was grabbing Hoffman (which should have been Pass Interference) after getting beat, but luckily the Safety was there when the pass arrived to "disrupt" the play.

Not sure why Poyer doesn't just shadow the opposing teams' #1 WRs if he's a true "shutdown" Corner.

norcalgsr 10-14-2012 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BRAVEHEART (Post 3142197)
Shutdown Marquess Wilson.

What happened with Dan Buckner and Austin Hill?

princefielder28 10-14-2012 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by norcalgsr (Post 3149385)

Not sure why Poyer doesn't just shadow the opposing teams' #1 WRs if he's a true "shutdown" Corner.

This could very well be a schematic preference by the defensive coordinator to have Poyer play half the field as opposed to shadowing a team's #1. If I am not mistaken the Raiders did that with Nnamdi when they had him, eliminate one half of the field instead of taking on a team's #1.

rawdawg 10-14-2012 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by princefielder28 (Post 3149417)
This could very well be a schematic preference by the defensive coordinator to have Poyer play half the field as opposed to shadowing a team's #1. If I am not mistaken the Raiders did that with Nnamdi when they had him, eliminate one half of the field instead of taking on a team's #1.

This is likely true. Teams could just combat Poyer by putting their #1 in the slot and giving him a 2-way go, instead of giving Poyer the sideline to help as he would be able to get vs. an outside WR on his half of the field.

And CBs get beat every game. I don't know why pointing out when one got beat would help to prove he's not a shutdown CB. Granted, Poyer's NOT a true shutdown CB, but few are. The value with Poyer is that you don't have to spend a top 15-20 pick on him, and you still get a pretty good cover guy out of it.

SuperPacker 10-14-2012 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by rawdawg (Post 3149433)
This is likely true. Teams could just combat Poyer by putting their #1 in the slot and giving him a 2-way go, instead of giving Poyer the sideline to help as he would be able to get vs. an outside WR on his half of the field.

And CBs get beat every game. I don't know why pointing out when one got beat would help to prove he's not a shutdown CB. Granted, Poyer's NOT a true shutdown CB, but few are. The value with Poyer is that you don't have to spend a top 15-20 pick on him, and you still get a pretty good cover guy out of it.

What? Because he isn't a household name? If he plays like a top 15 player he has every chance to be taken there.

princefielder28 10-14-2012 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperPacker (Post 3149440)
What? Because he isn't a household name? If he plays like a top 15 player he has every chance to be taken there.

If I had to guess where a NFL squad would select him, I'd say the late 1st - early 2nd. I have him above Johnthan Banks in terms of senior corners, and Milliner and Rhodes will probably draw more interest given their slightly better measurables. All four are going to be close on NFL boards, and I don't expect any of them to be on the board too deep into the draft.

rawdawg 10-14-2012 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperPacker (Post 3149440)
What? Because he isn't a household name? If he plays like a top 15 player he has every chance to be taken there.

So, Collin Klein's a top 15 pick too? He's played like a top 15 player right? If Poyer plays like a top 15 player (which he has, IMO) he still won't go in the top 15 unless he runs, jumps, and lifts like a top 15 player. He's not going to wow anyone at a combine that is probably going to have a lot of "wow" players. Maybe not many at his position, but his fellow CB class has a trio of 6'2" CBs and 6'1" Milliner who will likely going into the draft having started for a 2-time national champion in the best conference in the country.

That's not to knock Poyer, because as I said, I love the guy. But he's not going top 15. Bottom line.

norcalgsr 10-18-2012 03:33 AM

I don't see anything special from the BYU game.




princefielder28 10-18-2012 09:23 AM

norcalgsr, what's there not to be impressed about when it comes to the BYU game? BYU rarely threw in his direction and they clearly had a game plan to avoid him at all costs

norcalgsr 10-18-2012 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by princefielder28 (Post 3154363)
norcalgsr, what's there not to be impressed about when it comes to the BYU game? BYU rarely threw in his direction and they clearly had a game plan to avoid him at all costs

Did BYU avoid him or did Poyer avoid Hoffman? He was mostly either on the left side or on the slot WR JD Falslev. BYU rarely threw at him because he barely lined up against Hoffman. Hoffman is the only future NFL-caliber WR, so I would have liked to see that matchup more often.

princefielder28 10-18-2012 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by norcalgsr (Post 3154586)
Did BYU avoid him or did Poyer avoid Hoffman? He was mostly either on the left side or on the slot WR JD Falslev. BYU rarely threw at him because he barely lined up against Hoffman. Hoffman is the only future NFL-caliber WR, so I would have liked to see that matchup more often.

And that's in Poyer's control how??? you can't evaluate a prospect as having a bad game because the coaching staff had a different idea on how to use him rather than matching him up against the best WR or the WR you wanted him to be up against

y.f.s. 10-18-2012 03:04 PM

A lot of scouting CBs is just projecting the fluidity and movement skills of the CB and his eye discipline. It's really hard to scout DBs in general because you can only see them for a second or two in the shot.

coach4fu 10-18-2012 06:10 PM

That is why it is best to watch the NFL tape rather than the television tape. The NFL tape is wider so you can see the whole field during any one play.

gpngc 10-18-2012 06:15 PM

1) His feet are great. 40s matter for CBs so I wonder what his is.

2) Has he always played LCB? Is the RCB a stud or does the RCB just not tackle?


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