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BeardedOne 09-30-2012 10:40 AM

Andre Ellington, RB, Clemson
 
Watching film on Ellington, I'm getting really excited about the guy. He's a big back with speed, acceleration, balance, elusiveness, and power. His ability to stay upright reminds of David Wilson. He's a threat to break off long gains but also a workhorse back who can grind it between the tackles. I see him as a second round pick.

farfromforgotten 09-30-2012 10:54 AM

I don't know about the "big back" and "workhorse back" labels. Isn't he around 5'8 and 180-something? There are very few workhorse backs in the NFL anymore. I like him, but I see him going in round 3 in today's NFL.

BeardedOne 09-30-2012 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by farfromforgotten (Post 3134010)
I don't know about the "big back" and "workhorse back" labels. Isn't he around 5'8 and 180-something? There are very few workhorse backs in the NFL anymore. I like him, but I see him going in round 3 in today's NFL.

5'10' / 195 lb.

Phins827 09-30-2012 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BeardedOne (Post 3134016)
5'10' / 195 lb.

That's a "big back" nowadays? My former high school has 4 RBs bigger than that

BaLLiN 09-30-2012 12:02 PM

He does not look 5'10'' either, im guessing he is really 5'9'' 190ish

FUNBUNCHER 09-30-2012 12:10 PM

Almost the same size as Shady McCoy when he was drafted out of Pitt.

farfromforgotten 09-30-2012 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BeardedOne (Post 3134016)
5'10' / 195 lb.

Ehh... we must be talking about different Andre Ellington's. lol. He doesn't even look that big to me.

PossibleCabbage 09-30-2012 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by farfromforgotten (Post 3135005)
Ehh... we must be talking about different Andre Ellington's. lol. He doesn't even look that big to me.

He's listed by the Clemson athletic department as 5-9 195, which means that he is no bigger than 5-9 195 (since for guys who are not defensive tackles the published numbers are generally inflated from their accurate values.)

ESPN has him at 5-9 190, so he's probably not even that big.

I would say that qualifies him as a "small back".

To me a "big back" is someone who is north of 220 and taller than 5'11".

BeardedOne 10-01-2012 02:57 AM

Ok, you guys have made your point. He's not big. He just struck me as bigger because of his style of play. But what do you actually think of his game?

Mr. Goosemahn 10-02-2012 12:57 AM

DeAngelo Williams 2.0

duesouth 10-02-2012 08:42 AM

I really like him. Can cut without slowing and as well as making you miss he can break a tackle. Reliable receiver as well. Pass protection a concern, but at his size it's probably never going to be his strength. I don't if you can draft an undersized back in the first round, but certainly I'd strongly consider him in the second if I needed an impact RB for 10 touches a game to pair with a bigger back.

Armchair Scout 10-26-2012 02:35 PM

I really like Ellington. He shows great vision and burst through the hole. His acceleration is elite and when he cuts up-field, he gets going in a hurry. He is also very difficult to tackle in the open field, as he is capable of plowing over d-backs with ease. His biggest problem as a runner is that he doesn't consistently push the pile when he runs between the tackles.

Ellington does need to really work on his pass protection, which is a major weakness, and he isn't a proven option as a receiver. He does have to learn some of the nuances of the position.

As for his size, I don't think it is a big issue. From what I have seen of him in college, he seems perfectly capable of carrying the ball a lot without wearing down. He has had some injury issues, but I don't think that disqualifies him from being a lead option. Despite his size, he does run with surprising power. As a pure runner, I would grade him as the third best in college football, after Marcus Lattimore and Eddie Lacy. And it is close between him and Lacy.

D-Unit 10-26-2012 03:37 PM

Landed him in our forum mock in the late 3rd round. If that's any indication of his public value at the moment...

AntoinCD 12-19-2012 01:34 PM

I'm not a big fan of Ellington. He has nice speed and very good balance but all I see when I watch him run is Laurence Maroney, only he is a far worse pass protector

Cigaro 12-20-2012 06:02 PM

Eh, I like him. Not my favorite back in the class and I don't think he'll be a star, but I can easily see him becoming a good number two back in the league.

norcalgsr 12-22-2012 12:20 AM

Makes some great cuts. Excellent zone runner. Horrible in pass protection. Needs to get stronger.

BuddyCHRIST 12-22-2012 02:37 PM

very good athlete, but I have like numerous Clemson backs that haven't turned out as well. Spiller has turned it around now, but I though James Davis and Harper could be great pros as well and neither has done anything. He's a mid round pick.


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