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Captain Canuck 10-08-2012 09:29 AM

2013 Head Coaching Candidates
 
Just wondering who are the top coordinators, college coaches, and re-treads that will likely be looked at as NFL head coaches in 2013.

Don Vito 10-08-2012 10:38 AM

Josh McDanielzZ

vidae 10-08-2012 10:43 AM

Ray Horton for sure. Maybe Chudzinski if he can get that offense to start scoring some points.

PACKmanN 10-08-2012 10:46 AM

Vic Fango, DC, 49ers
bill sheridan, DC, Bucs

Two guys that are in the lead for the DCs

Shane P. Hallam 10-08-2012 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by vidae (Post 3143738)
Ray Horton for sure. Maybe Chudzinski if he can get that offense to start scoring some points.

Agreed on these two.

Bengals might have a whole new staff next year. I expect both Jay Gruden (OC) and Mike Zimmer (DC) to be on short lists.

I could also see Kyle Shannahan getting some looks.


Then you have the old head coaches, do any come back? Cowher, Gruden, etc. I doubt it, but something to think about of course.

A guy who has moved up pretty quickly as a long shot is first year Dolphins D-coordinator Kevin Coyle. Long football tradition with lots of coordinator experience in college.

J-Spot 10-08-2012 11:18 AM

Rod Marinelli has to be thrown in the mix. What he's done with the Bears defense is nothing short of amazing.

Besides, he even has his own sandwich named after him in Chicago: the "meatball marinelli"!

Giantsfan1080 10-08-2012 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by PACKmanN (Post 3143740)
Vic Fango, DC, 49ers
bill sheridan, DC, Bucs

Two guys that are in the lead for the DCs

No way Sheridan gets a HC job.

Shane P. Hallam 10-08-2012 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by J-Spot (Post 3143763)
Rod Marinelli has to be thrown in the mix. What he's done with the Bears defense is nothing short of amazing.

Besides, he even has his own sandwich named after him in Chicago: the "meatball marinelli"!

I would be pretty surprised to see Marinelli be a head coach again.

J-Spot 10-08-2012 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Shane P. Hallam (Post 3143767)
I would be pretty surprised to see Marinelli be a head coach again.

He clearly knows how to coach up defense.

From 1996 to 2005 he was the D-Line coach with the Bucs and fielded an elite defense year-in and year-out.

From 2006-2008 he had a rough run as head coach of the Lions, but to be fair, they had very little talent to work with.

From 2009-now, he has basically turned the Chicago defense into a top-3 unit after they struggled following the 2006 season.

Bengalsrocket 10-08-2012 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Shane P. Hallam (Post 3143753)
Agreed on these two.

Bengals might have a whole new staff next year. I expect both Jay Gruden (OC) and Mike Zimmer (DC) to be on short lists.

I could also see Kyle Shannahan getting some looks.


Then you have the old head coaches, do any come back? Cowher, Gruden, etc. I doubt it, but something to think about of course.

A guy who has moved up pretty quickly as a long shot is first year Dolphins D-coordinator Kevin Coyle. Long football tradition with lots of coordinator experience in college.

Gruden already passed on a few job interviews, I hope he does again this year. We are just starting to get something going, it would suck if he bailed now.

Shane P. Hallam 10-08-2012 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by J-Spot (Post 3143770)
He clearly knows how to coach up defense.

From 1996 to 2005 he was the D-Line coach with the Bucs and fielded an elite defense year-in and year-out.

From 2006-2008 he had a rough run as head coach of the Lions, but to be fair, they had very little talent to work with.

From 2009-now, he has basically turned the Chicago defense into a top-3 unit after they struggled following the 2006 season.

He can coach a defense, but coaching a team? 0-16 will stick with him forever and wasn't exactly known as a mastermind of motivation at the time.

Giantsfan1080 10-08-2012 11:28 AM

Marinelli is like Wade Phillips. Excellent D-Coordinators but not head coaching material.

WCH 10-08-2012 11:51 AM

I lived in Detroit during the Lions 0-16 season. I saw a lot of their games and I talked to a lot of their fans. Fair or not, nobody who watched that abortion of a team will ever hire Marinelli as a head coach. Maybe he'll be hired by some owner who never saw that team play, but I think his ceiling is DC.

Leon Sandcastle 10-08-2012 12:11 PM

Winston Moss(GB ILB's Assistant HC), Darren Perry(GB D-Backs) will get looks too. Not only because of the Rooney Rule.

Rosebud 10-08-2012 12:20 PM

Perry Fewell will get some Rooney Rule interviews, unfortunately that won't be enough for him to get hired anywhere.

robert pancake gallery 10-08-2012 01:20 PM

pat shurmur should be interviewing for a few positions next season, hopefully not to be a head coach though

tjsunstein 10-08-2012 01:35 PM

I thought Winston Moss would have gotten more looks by now but it seems like he's in a dicussion every offseason.

coordinator0 10-08-2012 01:58 PM

Cam Cameron is always available.

Pat Sims 90 10-08-2012 03:19 PM

I think some team will give Hue Jackson a look.

Cudders 10-08-2012 03:51 PM

If Im a team president or general manager, and Im exploring all options including top assistants, college coaches, and retreads, then the initial list would look something like this:

Panthers OC Rob Chudzinski Im a big, big-time fan of Chud. I think he has future head coach written all over him and his past justifies it. At their core, there are two coaches. The coaches that are married to their philosophies and tailor their talent to suit that and the coaches that evaluate their personnel and tailor their scheme to suit their talent. Both approaches can be successful, but I prefer the latter and Chud is that coach. He showed up in Cleveland with a ragtag group of quarterbacks, built his scheme around Derek Andersons vertical throwing abilities, and produced their most explosive offense since their return. He went to Carolina, got handed a number one overall pick at quarterback with readiness questions in a lockout-shortened off-season, and guided him to the most prolific rookie campaign of all-time. Add some potential insight from Norv Turner for game-calling purposes, and I think hes a top-notch candidate in an offense-driven league. The Panthers struggles wouldnt deter me from hiring him.

Broncos OC Mike McCoy If Tim Tebow accomplished one thing in Denver, it was attracting attention to McCoy. Even though an Orton-led passing attack posted some respectable numbers in Denver, revamping the offense to accommodate Tebows limited skill set impressed me. I havent seen enough of him to form a concrete opinion, but I think hes a worthwhile interview at least.

Bengals OC Jay Gruden I like what Ive seen from Gruden. I was never too impressed with Dalton at TCU, but hes done a wonderful job with him so far. Gruden has highlighted what he does well and even built up some of the weaker points of his game since taking over in Cincinnati for Bratkowski. His success on the smaller circuits as the head man and his coaching background will help him. The NFL loves bloodlines.

Bengals DC Mike Zimmer Grudens fellow coordinator will get a couple looks, too. Under Zimmer, Cincinnati has developed a reputation for revitalizing the careers of cast-offs. It requires a unique approach and a keen feel for the game to do that on a consistent basis. And his defenders seem to follow him. Unlike Chud though, I think his age combined with a patchwork pass rush contributing to an underperforming defense this season make him a less exciting candidate than he has been in the past.

Niners DC Vic Fangio Fangio is an interesting candidate. As far as Im concerned, he oversees the most versatile defense in the league and there are a lot of creative things he does with his personnel, much like Dom Capers. Going past schematics, he demands toughness and sound tackling. Under his watch, the Niners have been one of the best tackling teams in the NFL. Even though thats fundamental, its often overlooked.

Packers Asst. HC/ILB Winston Moss The Packer program is a good brand right now. Moss has been the second-in-charge during those successful seasons. Hes cut his teeth around bright offensive and defensive minds, developed talent within his position grouping, won a Super Bowl, and seems to be well-respected around the league.

Bears ST Dave Toub Special team coordinators are going to start getting more love for big jobs and for good reason. After the head coach, the special team coordinator has the next best feel for the overall pulse of the team because his hand is in all parts of the 53-man roster. Dave Toub is the best at controlling and flipping field position. In addition to excelling at the fundamentals and being reliable, hes creative. He uses special teams as a weapon.

Alabama HC Nick Saban Like it or not, Saban is the best in the business at the college level. Hes ultra-competitive and sharp with a respectable NFL pedigree, too. He coaches NFL traits at Bama and runs schemes with a pro skeleton. His unceremonious exit from the Dolphins might hurt him a little, but his wild success with the Tide could blind an owner. Luring him from Tuscaloosa would be tough though. Hes got a great thing going there. But, if his competitive fire is burning at him, I could see him making the jump again.

Stanford HC David Shaw Shaw is a Jim Harbaugh disciple and an offensive architect of a Cardinals program that has evolved a lot in a short amount of time. Having his fingerprints on developing Andrew Luck is a huge positive, and being a part of the coaching staff that oversaw the best-prepped team in the nation is another. Plus, the short returns on the post-Luck era look good and hes got almost a decade of NFL experience under his belt.

Northwestern HC Pat Fitzgerald Ignoring the obvious Bob Stoops and Kirk Ferentz speculation, I think Fitzgerald is an intriguing dark horse. Hes disciplined. Hes energetic. Hes smart. Hes done a lot with a little. Like prospects, projecting college coaches to the NFL is about translatable tools. Steve Spurrier, for example, dominated college football. Won conference and national championships. Molded All-Americans and made a Heisman winner. His prestige didnt equate to the NFL though. His protections were too archaic and simplified for the pro game. I could see Fitzgerald faring better in that adjustment.

Ex-HC Jon Gruden If one of the big-name coaches comes back, Im inclined to believe that its Gruden and not Cowher. The longer Cowher sits on the sidelines, the longer his odds at returning become. Gruden, on the other hand, is still a grinder. Still works the long hours. Still travels all over the place to keep up with the game. You can see the fire in him. On a team with an established quarterback, I think Gruden becomes a frontrunner.

Ex-HC Eric Mangini Eric Mangini is one of the smartest minds in football. No one outclasses on a whiteboard or stumps him with Xs and Os. Im sure he interviews well, too. To me, his biggest problem has been harmonizing philosophies. He believes that character and intelligence trump athleticism. When he was fired, the Browns were one of the least athletic teams in the NFL. You need a baseline level of athleticism to succeed at the pinnacle of the sport. If he finds a patient owner, and strikes the right balance, I think he succeeds.

Ex-HC Mike Nolan Nolan was an underwhelming head coach, but hes rattled off a string of impressive coordinator jobs since then. He found success with Denver and Miami and has improved Atlantas defense with similar personnel. If the Falcons live up to peoples expectations for them without a premier pass-rusher, Nolan could become one of hottest commodities on the coaching carousel.

Ex-Eagles HC Andy Reid If Philadelphia continues to flounder and cans Reid at the end of the season, hes the most sought-after coach on the market. Even though he graduated from a questionable school of clock management, he still does a lot of great things. He creates offensive production with ease and masks personnel deficiencies with the best of them. The fact that hes stuck around in a league of constant turnover is a testament. He might not be an elite head coach, but hes still above-average. He just might be too stale for the Eagles at this point.

Ex-Jets HC Rex Ryan If New York continues down their current path, I dont see how Rex survives the media firestorm. Fair or not, the deteriorating results condemn him. You cant keep promising Super Bowls and then miss the postseason. Now, hes gotten better at managing expectations and being loose-lipped with the media, but it came too late in New York. That said, I wouldnt pigeonhole Rex as a defensive coordinator for the rest of his coaching career. I think hes a great situational candidate. Some people are starters and some are sustainers. Rex is a starter. He is capable of going to a traditional cellar-dweller, being a breath of fresh air, and changing their culture. Eliminating the loser attitude in the locker room is the hardest part of a rebuild. Rex can do that. So, if I need a franchise-fixer, Id still consider Rex.

asdf1223 10-08-2012 05:34 PM

I hope Greg Roman, Vic Fangio and Ray Horton get the hell out of the NFC West.

BeerBaron 10-08-2012 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Cudders (Post 3144007)
Bears ST Dave Toub Special team coordinators are going to start getting more love for big jobs and for good reason. After the head coach, the special team coordinator has the next best feel for the overall pulse of the team because his hand is in all parts of the 53-man roster. Dave Toub is the best at controlling and flipping field position. In addition to excelling at the fundamentals and being reliable, hes creative. He uses special teams as a weapon.

Stop talking about him. I don't need his name mentioned anymore than is absolutely necessary. Whoever would hire him would get an awesome coach, but I don't want him to go anywhere.

WCH 10-08-2012 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Cudders (Post 3144007)
Northwestern HC Pat Fitzgerald Ignoring the obvious Bob Stoops and Kirk Ferentz speculation, I think Fitzgerald is an intriguing dark horse. Hes disciplined. Hes energetic. Hes smart. Hes done a lot with a little. Like prospects, projecting college coaches to the NFL is about translatable tools. Steve Spurrier, for example, dominated college football. Won conference and national championships. Molded All-Americans and made a Heisman winner. His prestige didnt equate to the NFL though. His protections were too archaic and simplified for the pro game. I could see Fitzgerald faring better in that adjustment.

Now that's a very interesting option that I hadn't thought about. I wanted him for the Michigan gig a couple years ago, and I could see him projecting pretty well to the NFL. I think he'd probably have to move to a bigger college program before he'd get serious looks from owners.

Leon Sandcastle 10-08-2012 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Cudders (Post 3144007)
If Im a team president or general manager, and Im exploring all options including top assistants, college coaches, and retreads, then the initial list would look something like this:

Panthers OC Rob Chudzinski Im a big, big-time fan of Chud. I think he has future head coach written all over him and his past justifies it. At their core, there are two coaches. The coaches that are married to their philosophies and tailor their talent to suit that and the coaches that evaluate their personnel and tailor their scheme to suit their talent. Both approaches can be successful, but I prefer the latter and Chud is that coach. He showed up in Cleveland with a ragtag group of quarterbacks, built his scheme around Derek Andersons vertical throwing abilities, and produced their most explosive offense since their return. He went to Carolina, got handed a number one overall pick at quarterback with readiness questions in a lockout-shortened off-season, and guided him to the most prolific rookie campaign of all-time. Add some potential insight from Norv Turner for game-calling purposes, and I think hes a top-notch candidate in an offense-driven league. The Panthers struggles wouldnt deter me from hiring him.

Broncos OC Mike McCoy If Tim Tebow accomplished one thing in Denver, it was attracting attention to McCoy. Even though an Orton-led passing attack posted some respectable numbers in Denver, revamping the offense to accommodate Tebows limited skill set impressed me. I havent seen enough of him to form a concrete opinion, but I think hes a worthwhile interview at least.

Bengals OC Jay Gruden I like what Ive seen from Gruden. I was never too impressed with Dalton at TCU, but hes done a wonderful job with him so far. Gruden has highlighted what he does well and even built up some of the weaker points of his game since taking over in Cincinnati for Bratkowski. His success on the smaller circuits as the head man and his coaching background will help him. The NFL loves bloodlines.

Bengals DC Mike Zimmer Grudens fellow coordinator will get a couple looks, too. Under Zimmer, Cincinnati has developed a reputation for revitalizing the careers of cast-offs. It requires a unique approach and a keen feel for the game to do that on a consistent basis. And his defenders seem to follow him. Unlike Chud though, I think his age combined with a patchwork pass rush contributing to an underperforming defense this season make him a less exciting candidate than he has been in the past.

Niners DC Vic Fangio Fangio is an interesting candidate. As far as Im concerned, he oversees the most versatile defense in the league and there are a lot of creative things he does with his personnel, much like Dom Capers. Going past schematics, he demands toughness and sound tackling. Under his watch, the Niners have been one of the best tackling teams in the NFL. Even though thats fundamental, its often overlooked.

Packers Asst. HC/ILB Winston Moss The Packer program is a good brand right now. Moss has been the second-in-charge during those successful seasons. Hes cut his teeth around bright offensive and defensive minds, developed talent within his position grouping, won a Super Bowl, and seems to be well-respected around the league.

Bears ST Dave Toub Special team coordinators are going to start getting more love for big jobs and for good reason. After the head coach, the special team coordinator has the next best feel for the overall pulse of the team because his hand is in all parts of the 53-man roster. Dave Toub is the best at controlling and flipping field position. In addition to excelling at the fundamentals and being reliable, hes creative. He uses special teams as a weapon.

Alabama HC Nick Saban Like it or not, Saban is the best in the business at the college level. Hes ultra-competitive and sharp with a respectable NFL pedigree, too. He coaches NFL traits at Bama and runs schemes with a pro skeleton. His unceremonious exit from the Dolphins might hurt him a little, but his wild success with the Tide could blind an owner. Luring him from Tuscaloosa would be tough though. Hes got a great thing going there. But, if his competitive fire is burning at him, I could see him making the jump again.

Stanford HC David Shaw Shaw is a Jim Harbaugh disciple and an offensive architect of a Cardinals program that has evolved a lot in a short amount of time. Having his fingerprints on developing Andrew Luck is a huge positive, and being a part of the coaching staff that oversaw the best-prepped team in the nation is another. Plus, the short returns on the post-Luck era look good and hes got almost a decade of NFL experience under his belt.

Northwestern HC Pat Fitzgerald Ignoring the obvious Bob Stoops and Kirk Ferentz speculation, I think Fitzgerald is an intriguing dark horse. Hes disciplined. Hes energetic. Hes smart. Hes done a lot with a little. Like prospects, projecting college coaches to the NFL is about translatable tools. Steve Spurrier, for example, dominated college football. Won conference and national championships. Molded All-Americans and made a Heisman winner. His prestige didnt equate to the NFL though. His protections were too archaic and simplified for the pro game. I could see Fitzgerald faring better in that adjustment.

Ex-HC Jon Gruden If one of the big-name coaches comes back, Im inclined to believe that its Gruden and not Cowher. The longer Cowher sits on the sidelines, the longer his odds at returning become. Gruden, on the other hand, is still a grinder. Still works the long hours. Still travels all over the place to keep up with the game. You can see the fire in him. On a team with an established quarterback, I think Gruden becomes a frontrunner.

Ex-HC Eric Mangini Eric Mangini is one of the smartest minds in football. No one outclasses on a whiteboard or stumps him with Xs and Os. Im sure he interviews well, too. To me, his biggest problem has been harmonizing philosophies. He believes that character and intelligence trump athleticism. When he was fired, the Browns were one of the least athletic teams in the NFL. You need a baseline level of athleticism to succeed at the pinnacle of the sport. If he finds a patient owner, and strikes the right balance, I think he succeeds.

Ex-HC Mike Nolan Nolan was an underwhelming head coach, but hes rattled off a string of impressive coordinator jobs since then. He found success with Denver and Miami and has improved Atlantas defense with similar personnel. If the Falcons live up to peoples expectations for them without a premier pass-rusher, Nolan could become one of hottest commodities on the coaching carousel.

Ex-Eagles HC Andy Reid If Philadelphia continues to flounder and cans Reid at the end of the season, hes the most sought-after coach on the market. Even though he graduated from a questionable school of clock management, he still does a lot of great things. He creates offensive production with ease and masks personnel deficiencies with the best of them. The fact that hes stuck around in a league of constant turnover is a testament. He might not be an elite head coach, but hes still above-average. He just might be too stale for the Eagles at this point.

Ex-Jets HC Rex Ryan If New York continues down their current path, I dont see how Rex survives the media firestorm. Fair or not, the deteriorating results condemn him. You cant keep promising Super Bowls and then miss the postseason. Now, hes gotten better at managing expectations and being loose-lipped with the media, but it came too late in New York. That said, I wouldnt pigeonhole Rex as a defensive coordinator for the rest of his coaching career. I think hes a great situational candidate. Some people are starters and some are sustainers. Rex is a starter. He is capable of going to a traditional cellar-dweller, being a breath of fresh air, and changing their culture. Eliminating the loser attitude in the locker room is the hardest part of a rebuild. Rex can do that. So, if I need a franchise-fixer, Id still consider Rex.

Thanks for this write up. Rep points+

A Perfect Score 10-08-2012 06:05 PM

If I was a team looking for a HC this offseason, I'd be looking at Ray Horton and Dave Toub. Those are the guys I really like for next year.


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