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Borat 10-09-2012 10:46 PM

2012 49ers Gameday Thread: Week 6: Giants at 49ers
 
Week 6:
Sunday, October 14, 2012


New York Giants (3-2)
At
San Francisco 49ers (4-1)

Location: The Stick


Time: 1:25 pm pst
Line: SF -5
Announcers (FOX): TBA

The New York Giants. Our REAL rivals. It’s not the Rams. It’s not the Seahawks, nor the Cards. Not the Cowboys anymore. Not even the Raiders. It’s the Giants. Dammit. Damn you Giants. I don’t hate ‘em, … but I hate ‘em. So much pain. Soooooooooooooooo much. Dammit. Damn you Giants.

Maybe it’s just me, but I feel like 49ers/Giants rivalry has reached College Football level proportions. Except the winner isn’t getting some plaque with a bronze trophy of something stupid tacked onto it:


Like I said, … stupid.

Yeah, I really want this win. I don’t know if I’ve ever wanted a win this badly (playoffs excluded). Not that it will erase this:


And this:


And, sigh, … this:


but a win will surely help me forget.

We went through the series history twice last year so I’m not going to do it again. Frankly, the Giants have delivered many more heartbreaks than the 49ers have (Dammit. Damn you Giants.). So let’s just skip it.

Except for this:


OK, enough ancient history. On to the game.


Awwwwwwwkward.

I’ll admit it; I’m a fan of this guy:

He’s won me over. Love the accuracy. Love his hurry-up game. Love how he controls the safeties. Dammit. Damn you Giants.

18-24 for 303 and 3 TDs. 156.2 QB rating. Nice.
So, hey, that’s what it feels like to have a top 5 QB.


Although Eli puts up that yardage in 3 quarters. Dammit. Damn you Giants.

But there’s this:

Not pictured: Eli Manning.

The biggest matchup will be this:

Freightening

VS.

This:

Completely owned the Bills defen$ive line. Gonna have to do it again against another top end line.

Gotta give it up for the run game. 311 yards. Insane.

Frank is just criminally underrated. His vision is ridiculous.

And the Niners have taken the run game up a notch with this:

He’s so tough to defend. That’s a new angle for the Giants to defend. Will be interesting to see how they handle it. I absolutely love it. LOVE it. I really hope they add a pass-package for him as an additional wrinkle.

The Giants offense will try and establish this:

30 carries, 200 yards last week vs. Cleveland. Psssssssshhh. ONLY 200 yards?
As usual, I’m not too concerned about the run game. Although, the refs better get their **** together on the whole “forward progress was stopped” garbage. I mean, it doesn’t affect the outcome of games, or, you know, Super Bowl appearances and things like that. Seriously, I’m not bitter.

But I am concerned about this:

Eli to Cruz doesn’t result in overthrows and drops like it did with Fitz to Whatever-Not-Good-Receiver the Bills were rolling out there last week.

But, the Niners have a huge advantage with this:

The TE wheel route to VD is the most unstoppable play in the league right now. I feel like they can go to it at any point and hit a big play.

And don’t forget that this happened:

VD has 6 receptions for 152 yards and 3 TDs in the two games last year. This offense is much more explosive this year, so he could be in for an even better performance.

The Giants won’t have to worry about this guy:

I think he went surfing at Mavericks and got eaten by a shark, or something. Realistically, the only logical explanation for his lack of use is that the team thinks his run-blocking is a big detractor. That’s all I got. Otherwise, I’m baffled. But, if they have been holding him in reserve for this moment, I wouldn’t hate that at all. Unleash the beast!

Also, unlike the NFCCG, the Giants won’t have to worry about this:

Another lucky break for NY. Dammit. Damn you Giants.

Hopefully the Niners will be picking the brains of Brandon Jacobs and Mario Manningham for some nice insider info on the Giants’ offense. I picture it going something like this:

Note: These are paid actors, portraying actual 49ers players and/or staff. Except for the dog, which belongs to Trent Baalke.

And finally, it was great to see involvement in the offense from this guy:

He’s got some Red Dead Redemption to deliver.

Also, THIS!!!:


Standings
NFC West
1. San Francisco 49ers (4-1)
1. Arizona Cardinals (4-1)
3. Seattle Seahawks (3-2)
3. St. Louis Rams (3-2)

NFC East
1. New York Giants (3-2)
1. Philadelphia Eagles (3-2)
3. Dallas Cowboys (2-2)
4. Washington Redskins (2-3)

Special Note:


Real Giants wear black, and orange, and french vanilla.

Forenci 10-09-2012 11:26 PM

Haha, I am looking forward to this game good sir. It really is a great rivalry.

Personally, I think you guys will beat us, but it will be a good game.

Ness 10-10-2012 12:51 AM

I might not even see this game as I'll be traveling to a part of mainland China. Hopefully they have internet at the hotel.

Oh and hopefully Alex's sprained middle finger isn't an issue come game day.

binary 10-10-2012 03:00 PM

This is gonna be epic. Will not sit down the entire game.

Rosebud 10-10-2012 03:56 PM

Great game thread. I laughed my ass of at the notion of Jacobs or Mario having any information. It's gunna be a great game and I hope another heart break for you guys, which is only fair, cause yall did this to me while I was still a kid, now I'm a jaded adult-ish, incapable of enjoying this is as I once could've.

VAfy-ya 10-10-2012 05:41 PM

Bravo Borat. The real Giants wear black and orange was a nice ending. Even as a Mets fan, I can appreciate that lol. Honestly, I want to win but would care less if we lost. I'm more worried about us expending too much energy and emotion trying to beat the G-Men and then coming out flat in a short turnaround against a very dangerous Seattle team with a defense that scares me to death. So I'm kind of indifferent at the moment.

Brent 10-10-2012 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rosebud (Post 3145895)
cause yall did this to me while I was still a kid, now I'm a jaded adult-ish, incapable of enjoying this is as I once could've.

A late 80's childhood or the 2002 comeback?

Rosebud 10-10-2012 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brent (Post 3146010)
A late 80's childhood or the 2002 comeback?

The comeback, after having last seen my team get eliminated from the playoffs via a superbowl raping, the likes of which we haven't seen since, the team ***** it up in an equally embarrassing manner.

Ness 10-11-2012 11:49 AM

Hopefully the 49ers kill the Giants like they did the Bills and Jets.

Giantsfan1080 10-12-2012 02:13 PM

Awesome job Borat. I can't wait for Sunday. You guys can win this game but I'll take the W again in the playoffs when we meet again.

Ness 10-12-2012 08:04 PM

Kevin Gilbride and Jim Harbaugh already starting the fire. And indeed, the fire rises.


Anyways, I don't think the 49ers will be able to run the ball very well like the the last two games against the Giants. They're probably going to make Alex Smith beat them through the air.

YAYareaRB 10-12-2012 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ness (Post 3148003)
They're probably going to make Alex Smith beat them through the air.

So shall it be written, so shall it be done!

49erNation85 10-13-2012 01:25 AM

sucks I have to work !! grr . Would love to have to watch this game. But end of seasonal job inventory has to be done Sunday it will be a long day.I just hope we win for sweet revenge from the play offs. And yes dam you Giants ! We need some excellent passing from both of our Qb 's this week and running to kick into ultra speed/high gear.

abaddon41_80 10-13-2012 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ness (Post 3148003)
Kevin Gilbride and Jim Harbaugh already starting the fire. And indeed, the fire rises.


Anyways, I don't think the 49ers will be able to run the ball very well like the the last two games against the Giants. They're probably going to make Alex Smith beat them through the air.

He did so in the regular season last year and was close to doing so with Michael Crabtree and Brett Swain in the playoffs. I believe he can definitely do it with the additions of Moss and Manningham, and Ginn back.

VAfy-ya 10-13-2012 01:51 PM

It's not so much a matter of "if" any more with the passing offense. We just have to do it on a consistent basis. That's the problem. Guys have to excute and cut out all the damn penalties. We would have probably scored 60 on the Bills if not for all the drive-killing penalties that negated huge plays. And the secondary needs to step up. Aside from Goldie and Cully, they haven't played the kind of ball we're accustomed to seeing. Whitner already has 8 missed tackles....he had 6 for ALL of last season. Usually the secondary is the last group to get their act together because it takes a few games to build chemistry back there but these guys all played with each other last year. I didn't think it would take this long to get the cohesion we need. They have to step it up this week.

Ness 10-13-2012 02:38 PM

Apparently Brown and Rogers have struggled so far this season. I wonder if that has to do with the lack of pass rush at times early on this on this year. Culliver on the other hand has played great.

Oh and please no dropped passes on Sunday.

Borat 10-13-2012 03:21 PM

The real Giants host game 1 of the NLCS on Sunday. Wonder if that will effect the attendance.

VAfy-ya 10-13-2012 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ness (Post 3148492)
Apparently Brown and Rogers have struggled so far this season. I wonder if that has to do with the lack of pass rush at times early on this on this year.

There hasn't been a lack of a pass rush. We have more sacks and more hurries this year than we had at this point, last year. The pass rush is fine. Guys on the back-end just need to step up. It has nothing to do with the front seven.

Brent 10-13-2012 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Borat (Post 3148555)
The real Giants host game 1 of the NLCS on Sunday. Wonder if that will effect the attendance.

can you imagine how ******* awesome it would be to see the Niners and then head down to AT&T to watch the Giants?

Borat 10-13-2012 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brent (Post 3148665)
can you imagine how ******* awesome it would be to see the Niners and then head down to AT&T to watch the Giants?

If I had more time to set it up, I would definitely be doing this.

Rosebud 10-13-2012 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ness (Post 3148003)
Kevin Gilbride and Jim Harbaugh already starting the fire. And indeed, the fire rises.


Anyways, I don't think the 49ers will be able to run the ball very well like the the last two games against the Giants. They're probably going to make Alex Smith beat them through the air.

Not sure I see that at all. We've got 3 healthy DTs of which one is a late round rookie, Kuhn, who I love, but still isn't very good right now, and the other is Marvin Austin, who hasn't played in two years and so still isn't in game shape. I'm much more worried about you guys running for 200+ on us than i am of your passing game.

Madirishman 10-13-2012 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Borat (Post 3148555)
The real Giants host game 1 of the NLCS on Sunday. Wonder if that will effect the attendance.

Frisco fans have tome for both, especially since it's against NYG and what happened in January still salting the wound a little. They'll show and represent.

abaddon41_80 10-14-2012 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VAfy-ya (Post 3148645)
There hasn't been a lack of a pass rush. We have more sacks and more hurries this year than we had at this point, last year. The pass rush is fine. Guys on the back-end just need to step up. It has nothing to do with the front seven.

Not calling you out but do you have a link for this? I feel like we have been a lot more inconsistent at generating pressure this year. The only game where we had consistent pressure was the Jets. Ponder had all day to throw on most of his dropbacks and we didn't really harass Rodgers, Stafford and Fitzpatrick like we did opposing QBs last year

Justone2 10-14-2012 11:19 AM

Aldon chased Rodgers all over the field at times and also Ponder beated us mostly on the run with Smith running after him most of the time.

Ness 10-14-2012 12:20 PM

I won't be able to watch the entire game live like I thought I would. Maybe just half of it. I might just wait to download it. We'll see.


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