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JohnCandy 11-30-2012 03:03 PM

Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma
 
A guy who seems to be making a surge up draft boards and on the internet if Lane Johnson.

What can people tell me about him?

Does he have LT ability?

Could he sneak into the 1st or 2nd round?

Matthew Jones 11-30-2012 03:06 PM

Very inconsistent results, not a great run blocker, looks athletic but gets moved to RT quite a bit. I think he'll go in the third round or so.

JohnCandy 11-30-2012 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthew Jones (Post 3196051)
Very inconsistent results, not a great run blocker, looks athletic but gets moved to RT quite a bit. I think he'll go in the third round or so.

I came way more impressed from what I saw.

He moved well and had a nice base.

I did not understand why he was moved to RT against West Virginia? The RT [79] leaves the game and Johnson flips over and 71 comes into the game. Then against Kansas St he plays the entire game at LT and does pretty well.

RCSooner 11-30-2012 11:16 PM

Yes, he's the top senior tackle prospect in this draft. He held Notre Dame's Stephon Tuitt to just one tackle.

JohnCandy 11-30-2012 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RCSooner (Post 3196379)
Yes, he's the top senior tackle prospect in this draft. He held Notre Dame's Stephon Tuitt to just one tackle.

There are a number of people who seem very critical of him and mostly his movement skills.

I have like what I have seen.

Crimson79 12-01-2012 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnCandy (Post 3196395)
There are a number of people who seem very critical of him and mostly his movement skills.

I have like what I have seen.

Johnson was a JUCO QB, and was recruited as a TE. Movement skills are probably one of his biggest strengths.

Crimson79 12-01-2012 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnCandy (Post 3196074)
I came way more impressed from what I saw.

He moved well and had a nice base.

I did not understand why he was moved to RT against West Virginia? The RT [79] leaves the game and Johnson flips over and 71 comes into the game. Then against Kansas St he plays the entire game at LT and does pretty well.

He played RT tackle all last season. Coaches probably just felt more comfortable with him playing RT than the 3rd tackle.

Crimson79 12-01-2012 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Matthew Jones (Post 3196051)
Very inconsistent results, not a great run blocker, looks athletic but gets moved to RT quite a bit. I think he'll go in the third round or so.

Once he puts on more weight, and gains more strength he will be a solid run blocker, and great in pass pro. The guy was a JUCO QB, and was recruited to play TE. He switched to DE, and then finally ended up at OT. He has only been playing OT for about 3 years now.

He started all last year at RT due to Donald Stephenson being the LT. He moved to LT this year, and pretty much plays that position unless OU goes jumbo.

As far as consistency goes I question whether you watch the guy. He whipped Jackson Jeffcoat from Texas, and more than held his own against Tuitt from ND.

JohnCandy 12-01-2012 10:41 AM

I guess the real question is at this time next year are we talking about Lane Johnson as a solid LT?

For a team like the Bears who could use an upgrade at LT and are picking so late in round 1 is he a possible target?

JohnCandy 12-01-2012 12:54 PM

I am watching Johnson right now and a couple of quick impressions,

-His body is always in good position because of his athletic ability. He always has the DE in the middle of his body and does not give up and edge.

-He needs to get stronger and use his punch more because he is athletic enough to force the bull rush.

-He needs more experience and coaching as he missed a couple of stunts.

But overall I am impressed by his body position, which is 80% of pass protection.

JohnCandy 12-01-2012 12:55 PM

Just dominated the run block for the Damien Williams huge TD run.

JohnCandy 12-02-2012 01:18 AM

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No way is he first rounder. Needs some tech work and time in the weight room. Late second.

I guess the real question is at this time next year are we talking about Lane Johnson as a solid LT?

For a team like the Bears who could use an upgrade at LT and are picking so late in round 1 is he a possible target?

If you are looking for rookie starter it should be Eric Fisher. For a longer term prospect with more upside it would be Johnson.

I am watching Johnson right now and a couple of quick impressions,

-His body is always in good position because of his athletic ability. He always has the DE in the middle of his body and does not give up and edge.

-He needs to get stronger and use his punch more because he is athletic enough to force the bull rush.

-He needs more experience and coaching as he missed a couple of stunts.

But overall I am impressed by his body position, which is 80% of pass protection.

When judging him people have to remember this young man didnt play tackle until last season on the right side.

When you consider he has played QB, DE, TE, RT and now this season LT his performance is more impressive. He is an excellent student and I have never heard of any character concerns.

He has added some weight and should add more once on an NFL weight program.

It's a crap shoot at this point where he gets drafted but I think whoever gets him is going to get a versatile hard working player who I expect has the ability to be a very effective starter in two years.

He reminds me a lot of Nate Solder in the fact that he just needs reps.

Solder smoothed out the rough edges and now looks like a stud because the one thing that you cannot coach is athletic ability.

I could see Lane Johnson making his way into the late 1st for a team in need of a LT.

But I doubt a guy with this base to work with gets out of the 2nd round.

Scott Wright 01-05-2013 08:59 AM

I watched Johnson closely in the Cotton Bowl and was very impressed. Huge frame with long arms and excellent feet. Definitely a Top 100 talent. However, I think the first round talk is a little much. Too much work to do from a physical (bulk / strength), fundamentals and temperament standpoint to go that early. More of a finesse type and needs to get nastier.

Babylon 01-05-2013 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott Wright (Post 3233209)
I watched Johnson closely in the Cotton Bowl and was very impressed. Huge frame with long arms and excellent feet. Definitely a Top 100 talent. However, I think the first round talk is a little much. Too much work to do from a physical (bulk / strength), fundamentals and temperament standpoint to go that early. More of a finesse type and needs to get nastier.

You brought him to my attention and i was more than impressed with his performance against the Aggies. When they moved Damontre Moore over to his side, which was quite a bit actually, i thought Johnson won all those battles. If someone didn't know they might not have seen a lot of differance between him and Joeckel/Matthews.

As for his draft status i think he can make some strides at the Senior Bowl and the combine. Hard to see him jumping over the top 3 or 4 guys (Joeckel, Lewan, Fisher but he may be able to get into that late first early second, being he looks like, to me at least, that he is very comfortable at LT.

RCSooner 01-20-2013 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Wright (Post 3233209)
I watched Johnson closely in the Cotton Bowl and was very impressed. Huge frame with long arms and excellent feet. Definitely a Top 100 talent. However, I think the first round talk is a little much. Too much work to do from a physical (bulk / strength), fundamentals and temperament standpoint to go that early. More of a finesse type and needs to get nastier.

He should be a first-round pick, Scott. LTs come at high value in the draft these days. He will be the second or third offensive tackle taken in this year's draft.

JohnCandy 01-20-2013 06:58 PM

How does he compare to Justin Pugh?

SolidGold 01-20-2013 07:51 PM

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How does he compare to Justin Pugh?

I think Johnson is more athletic and looks the part of a franchise LT and Pugh is a mauler type - not the prettiest looking athlete but gets the job done. I like both of these guys alot.

CollegeFan 01-24-2013 02:21 AM

Saw him interviewed today on NFL Network....Was a QB in Junior College and runs a 4.75 40 =0 damn!! Sick athlete. Here is a youtube video of him doing a reverse dunk...holy cow. Def an athlete.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xhgi37KANc

Iamcanadian 01-24-2013 09:45 AM

I think he'll be a late 1st rounder, as RC Sooner said, LT's are hard to come by and this guy has a huge upside.

JohnCandy 01-24-2013 09:46 AM

I bet if Fisher goes top 10 that Lane Johnson goes 11 to San Diego or 16 to the Rams.

LTs are hard to find and he is on the Nate Solder path right now.

JustisM 01-25-2013 01:01 AM

Looks like the perfect guy for Oregon's system. If Chip does decide to go OL in the first maybe he takes a look at Lane Johnson?

Babylon 01-25-2013 11:54 AM

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Looks like the perfect guy for Oregon's system. If Chip does decide to go OL in the first maybe he takes a look at Lane Johnson?

So you're expecting some trade activity, which is entirely possible when a new coach comes in with a long term deal.

I think Lane Johnson could turn out something in the line of a Joe Staley, a guy who was very athletic and needed to add some lbs. Having said that i think somewhere in the 20s is a realistic hope for his supporters.

Nastradamus 01-25-2013 11:59 AM

I imagine Chicago is his floor.

FUNBUNCHER 01-25-2013 12:17 PM

He won't get past the Rams first first round pick.

Babylon 01-25-2013 02:50 PM

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He won't get past the Rams first first round pick.

That's kind of what i'm thinking. If the Rams had someone like Warmack fall to them they might think he's a better player, they do need some help at guard too.


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