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benj123 12-01-2012 03:13 AM

December 1st 2 Round Mock! Feedback Please
Round 1
1. Kansas City - Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah
2. Jacksonville - Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia
3. Oakland - Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&M
4. Cleveland - Manti Te'o, ILB, Notre Dame
5. Philadelphia - Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia
6. Carolina - Jonathan Hankins, DT, Ohio St.
7. Buffalo - Matt Barkley, QB, USC
8. San Diego - Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M
9. New York Jets - Chance Warmack, G, Alabama
10. Tennessee - Louis Nix III, DT, Notre Dame
11. Arizona - Tyler Wilson, QB, Arkansas
12. Detroit - Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama
13. St. Louis - Jake Mathews, OT, Texas A&M
14. Miami - Keenan Allen, WR, Cal
15. St. Louis - Sheldon Richardson, DT Missouri
16. New Orleans - Bjoern Werner, DE, Florida St.
17. Dallas - Jonathan Cooper, G, North Carolina
18. Cincinnati - Kenny Vaccaro, S, Texas
19. Tampa Bay - Jonathan Banks, CB, Miss St.
20. Minnesota - Sam Montgomery, DE, LSU
21. Pittsburgh - Barkevious Mingo, LB, LSU
22. Seattle - Justin Hunter, WR, Tennessee
23. Indianapolis - John Jenkins, DT, Georgia
24. New York Giants - Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan
25. Green Bay - Barrett Jones, OL, Alabama
26. Denver- Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida St.
27. Chicago - Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame
28. New England - Matt Elam, S, Florida
29. San Francisco - DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Clemson
30. Baltimore - C.J. Mosely, ILB, Alabama
31. Houston - Robert Woods, WR, USC
32. Atlanta - Alex Okafor, DE, Texas

Round 2
33. Kansas City - Eric Reid, S, LSU
34. Jacksonville - Jordan Poyer, CB, Oregon St.
35. Philadelphia - Tony Jefferson, S, Oklahoma
36. Carolina - Terrance Williams, WR, Baylor
37. Cincinnati - Alec Ogletree, ILB, Georgia
38. San Diego - Kawann Short, DT/DE, Purdue
39. New York Jets - Anthony Barr, OLB, UCLA
40. Tennessee - Ezekial Ansah, DE, BYU
41. Arizona - Dallas Thomas, OT, Tennessee
42. Detroit - Dion Jordan, DE, Oregon
43. Buffalo - Chase Thomas, LB, Stanford
44. St. Louis - Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee
45. Washington - David Amerson, CB, NC ST.
46. Dallas - Oday Aboushi, OT, Virginia
47. Miami - Zach Ertz, TE, Stanford
48. Tampa Bay - Logan Ryan, CB, Rutgers
49. Minnesota - Kevin Minter, ILB, LSU
50. Cincinnati - Gerald Hodges, OLB, Penn St.
51. Seattle - Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma
52. Pittsburgh - T.J. McDonald, S, USC
53. New York Giants - Tank Carradine, DE, Florida St.
54. Miami - Sharif Floyd, DT, Florida
55. Green Bay - Sylvester Williams, DT, UNC
56. Chicago - Larry Warford, OG, Kentucky
57. New England - Jesse Williams, DT, Alabama
58. Denver - Eddy Lacy, RB, Alabama
59. San Francisco - Margus Hunt, DE, SMU
60. Baltimore - Tavon Austin, WR, West Virginia
61. Houston - D.J. Fluker, OT, Alabama
62. Atlanta - Giovani Bernard, RB, North Carolina

Matthew Jones 12-01-2012 03:39 AM

I like Star Lotulelei in the top spot. Some changes I'd recommend:

1. Cleveland is unlikely to target Manti Te'o after recently providing D'Qwell Jackson with a lucrative extension.

2. Louis Nix is more of a run suffer; Tennessee already has an excellent nose tackle in Jurrell Casey.

3. Detroit seems to value man coverage skills; Milliner is probably a better fit in zone coverage schemes.

4. St. Louis drafted Michael Brockers and paid Kendall Langford $24 million this offseason to serve as the starting defensive tackles.

5. Kenny Vaccaro has no place in the first round of a mock draft; he's an incredibly erratic tackler.

6. Matt Elam has hinted that he will return to school; New England also has three or four quality safeties.

7. San Diego currently employs Corey Liuget (first round) and Kendall Reyes (second round) at defensive end.

8. I'd be shocked if Logan Ryan was drafted for a man-coverage team such as the Buccaneers.

9. D.J. Fluker seems like more of a power/inline blocker rather than a zone blocker at the next level.

CJSchneider 12-01-2012 09:16 AM

Werner no NO sounds just fine.

Pat Sims 90 12-01-2012 09:28 AM

The Only Pick I like for the Bengals is Ogletree

FUNBUNCHER 12-01-2012 09:57 AM

KC has the first pick in round 1 and 2, and they don't take a QB??

Come on dude.

TheMatriculator 12-01-2012 10:03 AM

Given their situation at QB, there is no way that the Chiefs can leave this draft without one. Now trading back IS a possibility but QB is a MUST. Team needs must trump relative value in this case. We don't want to put vidae on suicide watch, do we?

Safety is a need but CB is much greater need. Kendrick Lewis is a good free safety but he can't stay healthy. Since Stanford Routt was cut, there is really no one who can play opposite Flowers who can cover the big WRs in the league. Javier Arenas is there currently but is 5'9" (so is Flowers) and better suited to cover the slot.

derza222 12-01-2012 10:10 AM

Would be disappointed if the Jets passed on Tyler Wilson, but Warmack and Barr would be a great haul. Just think Wilson would be a much better choice in the first. Would prefer Keenan Allen there too.

Phins827 12-01-2012 10:21 AM

Randy Starks, Paul Soliai, Jared Odrick, Tony McDaniel... Please elaborate on giving Miami a DT. Cb, Safety, OG, OT, LB would all make sense

vidae 12-01-2012 10:47 AM

I gotta be honest with you, that KC draft is awful. There is no way the Chiefs can pass on a QB first overall, no way. The Chiefs don't have a QB worthy of starting in the NFL on the roster period, and you don't have us taking one with the first two picks?

Just not a very good KC mock.

Cigaro 12-01-2012 10:56 AM

I'd rather have a lineman than Williams in the second. If we did go receiver, I'd prefer Cordarrelle.

SoCalBam 12-01-2012 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by vidae (Post 3196515)
I gotta be honest with you, that KC draft is awful. There is no way the Chiefs can pass on a QB first overall, no way. The Chiefs don't have a QB worthy of starting in the NFL on the roster period, and you don't have us taking one with the first two picks?

Just not a very good KC mock.

Agree no way this works for KC....No more retread QB's

coordinator0 12-01-2012 11:40 AM

Mosley is a really good pick in the first round for the Ravens. I don't think Austin would be that great though. He wouldn't fit too well in Cameron's offense and they need a legitimate threat opposite of Smith not a slot WR.

BuckeyeDan17 12-01-2012 11:49 AM

I really don't like the idea of taking an ILB in the top 5. As a matter of fact I hate it. I would rather just go with Wilson. I doubt the new FO is banking on Weeden.

rawdawg 12-01-2012 12:07 PM

I'd take Fluker over Warford in Chicago. I was thinking OL then Ertz in the 2nd, but if I could get Eifert and then an OL like Fluker, sign me up.

RCAChainGang 12-01-2012 12:15 PM

Dion Jordan as of now shouldn't fall out of the first round. With Freeney's contract situation Jordan would be perfect for the Colts.

RaiderNation 12-01-2012 12:28 PM

Moore would definitely improve our pass rush, but we honstly could use help at just about everywhere on defense.

ChicagoBearsVet23 12-01-2012 03:22 PM

Solid Bears draft

Brent 12-01-2012 03:33 PM

The Niners just took a WR in the first round.

benj123 12-01-2012 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by Brent (Post 3196770)
The Niners just took a WR in the first round.

Hopkins is the best WR in this class. AJ Jenkins was a reach.

Taber21 12-01-2012 03:47 PM

Could you explain DE for the Vikings in round 1?

benj123 12-01-2012 03:51 PM

BPA. Plus Allen and Montgomery on the same line would cause havoc. ALso an upgrade over Everson Griffin

49erNation85 12-01-2012 04:05 PM

Woods > Hopkins IMO. But that is just me.

Taber21 12-01-2012 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by benj123 (Post 3196787)
BPA. Plus Allen and Montgomery on the same line would cause havoc. ALso an upgrade over Everson Griffin

I agree with this, but the Vikings unfortunately are not in a position to draft an upgrade over a backup at this point. Their needs are vast despite having a winning record to this point, and someone like Justin Hunter would add a lot more to their team, IMO.

eliasrapp98 12-01-2012 05:53 PM

I like it for Philly. Getting Geno Smith at 5 is a good pick for us if Foles doesn't look too good. Not a big fan of the Jefferson pick though he is the best player on the board... If we could do trades, I would trade up for Elam.

TimmG6376 12-01-2012 06:25 PM

Jones is a good pick in round 1, but if they are going DL Jessie Williams seems like a better fit than Sylvester since he already has experience at multiple positions in the 3-4 defense.

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