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benj123 01-04-2013 02:26 AM

Fresh 2013 Mock to Embrace Debate
 
1. KC - Tyler Wilson - QB - Arkansas
2. JAC - Sheldon Richardson - DT - Missouri
3. OAK - Star Lotulelei - DT - Utah
4. PHI - Damontre Moore - DE - Texas A&M
5. DET - Luke Joeckel - OT - Texas A&M
6. CLE - Manti Te'o - ILB - ND
7. ARI - Geno Smith - QB - West Virginia
8. BUF - Jarvis Jones - DE/OLB - Georgia
9. NYJ - Bjoern Werner - DE - Florida State
10. TEN - Dee Milliner - CB - Alabama
11. SD - Taylor Lewan - OT - Michigan
12. MIA - Dion Jordan - DE - Oregon
13. TB - Jonathan Banks - CB - Mississippi State
14. CAR - Jonathan Hankins - DT - Ohio State
15. NO - Ezekial Ansah - DE - BYU
16. STL - Chance Warmack - OG - Alabama
17. PIT - Barkevious Mingo - OLB - LSU
18. DAL - Kenny Vaccaro - S - Texas
19. NYG - Eric Fisher - OT - Central Michigan
20. CHI - Lane Johnson - OT - Oklahoma
21. CIN - Sam Montgomery - DE - LSU
22. STL - Terrance Williams - WR - Baylor
23. MIN - Cordarelle Patterson - WR - Tennessee
24. BAL - Alec Ogletree - ILB - Georgia
25. IND - Barrett Jones - OL - Alabama
26. SEA - Keenan Allen - WR - Cal
27. GB - Giovani Bernard - RB - North Carolina
28. HOU - Justin Hunter - WR - Tennessee
29. SF - Sharif Floyd - DE - Florida
30. NE - Kawann Short - DT - Purdue
31. ATL - John Jenkins - DT - Georgia
32. DEN - Xavier Rhodes - CB - FSU

Abaddon 01-04-2013 02:51 AM

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2. JAC - Sheldon Richardson - DT - Missouri

benj123 01-04-2013 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Abaddon (Post 3232154)

For 2 reasons
1. Jaguars sort of reach type pick
2. Would be a great UT for your team that lacks pressure up the middle

RCAChainGang 01-04-2013 03:04 AM

I like Jonathan Cooper over Barrett Jones, but I can't argue with the pick. Need is addressed and value is debatable, but good.

Other options for the Colts are:
Eric Reid FS
Xavier Rhodes CB/S
Alex Okafor to play OLB (still not sold on that idea)

Good Colts pick though.

T-RICH49 01-04-2013 03:08 AM

great KC pick

Abaddon 01-04-2013 04:00 AM

I'm sticking with my "Wuh?"

49erNation85 01-04-2013 11:39 AM

Solid pick for sf.

thebow305 01-04-2013 12:48 PM

Jordan works for Miami!

YotoJets007 01-04-2013 01:42 PM

Good Jets pick.

zachsaints52 01-04-2013 01:42 PM

DE for Saints is nice.

coordinator0 01-04-2013 01:58 PM

No thanks to Ogletree in the first round.

killxswitch 01-04-2013 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RCAChainGang (Post 3232158)
I like Jonathan Cooper over Barrett Jones, but I can't argue with the pick. Need is addressed and value is debatable, but good.

Other options for the Colts are:
Eric Reid FS
Xavier Rhodes CB/S
Alex Okafor to play OLB (still not sold on that idea)

Good Colts pick though.

I agree with all of this. It pisses me off that no one ever mocks Dion Jordan or Ziggy Ansah to us anymore. They're both always long gone.

benj123 01-04-2013 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by coordinator0 (Post 3232486)
No thanks to Ogletree in the first round.

Would you take Minter instead?

coordinator0 01-04-2013 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by benj123 (Post 3232547)
Would you take Minter instead?

Yes. I wouldn't peg them in as taking an ILB no matter what though.

Thecollegedropout 01-04-2013 03:56 PM

As long as Werner is used as an pass rush OLB, I like it.

Seasonticketholder 01-04-2013 04:07 PM

I don't mind Ansah for the Saints but would take Barkevious Mingo in that spot, and play him in the Von Miller or Bruce Irvin role.

BuckeyeDan17 01-04-2013 04:32 PM

Manti Teo over Werner, Milliner and Banks.

WHY?

SuperPacker 01-04-2013 05:13 PM

no giovani in the 1st. we dont rely on the run so bernard would be a waste,

armageddon 01-04-2013 08:52 PM

Rams

Warmack
Williams

Can't complain. Offense just got better. If Fluker makes it to them in rd 2, wow, I would have a woodie.

Warriorz319 01-04-2013 11:26 PM

Couple of things I noticed, 1) Now that Andy Reid has been Hired by the Chiefs I HIGHLY DOUBT they reach for a QB when there is not even a 1st round quality QB in this draft, at the #1 pick a Lineman like Star Lotulelei is a much more realistic pick with Andy's Draft history. 2) Barring an awful showing at the Combine there is no way Lotulelei is not the 1st DT taken. 3) QB's are over drafted every year but barring dominant showings at the senior bowl and combine there won't be a QB drafted in the top 15 and their shouldn't be one taken in the 1st round at all in my opinion. Love seeing Mocks this early though.

Warriorz319 01-04-2013 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperPacker (Post 3232713)
no giovani in the 1st. we dont rely on the run so bernard would be a waste,

I agree with this Packers aren't taking a RB that early in the draft we don't need a 1st round RB and drafting a 1st round RB that is not special is a waste of a pick as u can pick this caliber of a Runner in the 3rd round, id rather see a OT or another OLB.

killxswitch 01-05-2013 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Warriorz319 (Post 3233074)
Couple of things I noticed, 1) Now that Andy Reid has been Hired by the Chiefs I HIGHLY DOUBT they reach for a QB when there is not even a 1st round quality QB in this draft, at the #1 pick a Lineman like Star Lotulelei is a much more realistic pick with Andy's Draft history. 2) Barring an awful showing at the Combine there is no way Lotulelei is not the 1st DT taken. 3) QB's are over drafted every year but barring dominant showings at the senior bowl and combine there won't be a QB drafted in the top 15 and their shouldn't be one taken in the 1st round at all in my opinion. Love seeing Mocks this early though.

This may be a down year for QB talent, but saying there won't be one picked in the top 15 is not realistic IMO. As you said, QBs are overdrafted every year.

Warriorz319 01-05-2013 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by killxswitch (Post 3233186)
This may be a down year for QB talent, but saying there won't be one picked in the top 15 is not realistic IMO. As you said, QBs are overdrafted every year.

I agree it may be wishful thinking but the last time a draft was this weak in QB's Sam Bradford was taken #1 when he looked like a 3rd round QB and Tim Tebow was a 1st round pick. I'm hopeful the league has learned not to overdraft a QB but I doubt they have; if the chiefs want Wilson they can wait and pick him up in the late 2nd early 3rd round range. Bray, Glennon, and Manuel have the upside someone will overdraft them high in the draft, particularly Manuel who should test through the roof but I just say no QB is worth it.

mightytitan9 01-05-2013 03:44 PM

As a Titans fan I'd be rather disappointed. We are pretty set at CB and desperately need a pass rusher. Mingo would likely be the choice here, Warmack, Jordan and Hankins close behind


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