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KCStud 01-11-2013 11:22 PM

Syracuse QB Ryan Nassib
 
I really like this kid's potential.

He rarely turns the ball over, he's mobile, his accuracy has been solid over the last 2 years and he stands tall in the pocket.

He also had Doug Marrone, the OC for Drew Brees when he took off in the NFL in New Orleans, coaching him up.

I think he's the most underrated QB in the draft. Thoughts?

burkorama 01-12-2013 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by KCStud (Post 3241858)
I really like this kid's potential.

He rarely turns the ball over, he's mobile, his accuracy has been solid over the last 2 years and he stands tall in the pocket.

He also had Doug Marrone, the OC for Drew Brees when he took off in the NFL in New Orleans, coaching him up.

I think he's the most underrated QB in the draft. Thoughts?

Hmm. Maybe a little mobility, but he's far from a running threat in the NFL. Seems like he would only be slightly above-average there, if at all--certainly doesn't have the speed to be one of those guys who, while not deadly running the football, has legs that the defense has to keep in mind (like Rogers, A. Smith, etc). His athleticism and arm-strength are also pretty underwhelming, and his release is a bit front-heavy sometimes. All that said, he's had three good years, does some things well, and everyone seems to like him. Read an article yesterday that quoted some NFL GM's saying he was a better prospect than Tannehill and Weeden, though I don't see it at all.

bucfan12 01-12-2013 08:21 AM

His release is a bit heavy but it's quick and accurate. I think hes got all the tools to be an nfl starter and a good one. Did well elevating the play of his team which has too be looked at. Great leadership and character.

rawdawg 01-12-2013 09:01 AM

This year's Andy Dalton to me. Not a very special talent, but is well coached, has the attention to detail, very smart and a strong leader. Someone's going to get him in the 2nd, maybe 3rd round and he's going to be starting for them pretty quickly.

bored of education 01-12-2013 05:25 PM

I wouldnt draft him in the top 50, personally.

Don Vito 01-12-2013 05:30 PM

If the Bills draft him I will laugh. If you are a struggling NFL team, everyone knows the best way to turn it around is to raid Syracuse.

I do think he could develop into a good QB though. I like what rawdag said, I think his ceiling is a Dalton type of player. I don't think he will be that good that soon but he could play early. Could be a solid QB in this league if he ends up in the right situation, but he probably won't have an AJ Green to throw to.

SolidGold 01-12-2013 05:39 PM

I do get the appeal with Nassib. I would draft him in the 2nd with no issue but I think the first round is a bit of a stretch. He was an option QB in HS I believe so it should be interesting to see what kind of measureables he puts up. I like his size and arm strength. He seems pretty well put together and solid bodywise. He was a three year starter and has played alot of football all the while improving each year and playing in Marrone's offense. Considering Marrone's ties to Parcells/Payton and the Saints I think it makes him a pretty appealing prospect in that regard.

Buffalo has some solid offensive pieces in place so I do not think he would end up going to some desolate situation if he ended up there.

He also seems like a really bright kid - undergrad in Finance and going for a Master's in Accounting.

duesouth 01-14-2013 05:27 AM

I think he's got a better arm than Dalton and Buffalo need a big time arm talent particularly late in the year - but the pick might be too obvious!

Throws the fastball too often - must learn touch. Accuracy is OK, but could improve. Feet are good and pretty good with his eyes.

If he had Zac Dysert's ability to take something off his passes, then I would say he could be a 1st rounder - but I think second round is a solid pre-Senior Bowl ranking.

Leon Sandcastle 01-14-2013 09:11 AM

Agree with a lot that's been said. He has a lot of tools NFL teams will fall in like with. Good size & bulk at 6'3, 230, above average mobility, live arm, accurate, decisive, anticipates well, smart, tough as nails.

Two star recruit from West Pa that's improved every year in college in a Pro system with weak FBS talent around him. One of the only Senior QB's who improved during his final year.

Kinda reminds me of Jake Locker with better accuracy but not as athletic. He's certainly a better prospect than Brandon Weeden and in the post CBA world QB's get taken about 10-20 spots higher than expected. Wouldn't surprise me if he ends up in the 1st.

Senior Bowl week is going to be huge for him.

Shane P. Hallam 01-14-2013 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Wide Right (Post 3244974)
Agree with a lot that's been said. He has a lot of tools NFL teams will fall in like with. Good size & bulk at 6'3, 230, above average mobility, live arm, accurate, decisive, anticipates well, smart, tough as nails.

Two star recruit from West Pa that's improved every year in college in a Pro system with weak FBS talent around him. One of the only Senior QB's who improved during his final year.

Kinda reminds me of Jake Locker with better accuracy but not as athletic. He's certainly a better prospect than Brandon Weeden and in the post CBA world QB's get taken about 10-20 spots higher than expected. Wouldn't surprise me if he ends up in the 1st.

Senior Bowl week is going to be huge for him.


He's from Eastern PA. I wouldn't say he is certainly a better prospect than Weeden especially if age is taken out. Weeden had more upside and even more polish in his deep passing game and eluding pressure.

Leon Sandcastle 01-14-2013 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Shane P. Hallam (Post 3244980)
He's from Eastern PA. I wouldn't say he is certainly a better prospect than Weeden especially if age is taken out. Weeden had more upside and even more polish in his deep passing game and eluding pressure.

I considered age. Two knocks I have on Nassib is velocity control and his deep ball. It gets really ugly at times.

I thought the Western part of PA were the only ones allowed to develop QB's.

bigbuc 01-16-2013 01:52 PM

Could this kid be Philly's second round pick with Kelly in town?

Brown Leader 02-05-2013 01:32 PM

Russ Lande's #1 overall prospect now for 2013. Not just top QB-top overall prospect.


Leon Sandcastle 02-05-2013 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Brown Leader (Post 3266222)
Russ Lande's #1 overall prospect now for 2013. Not just top QB-top overall prospect.


Maaaan Russ Lande really loves Nassib. Is this projection based on what he's hearing or how he grades?

At least he's not an echo.

EDIT: Alison Brie could get all of it.

Black Bolt 02-05-2013 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Brown Leader (Post 3266222)
Russ Lande's #1 overall prospect now for 2013. Not just top QB-top overall prospect.


LOL, Rus Lande needs to get a hold of himself.

descendency 02-05-2013 02:48 PM

His poor accuracy is a product of HIGHLY inconsistent mechanics.

mightytitan9 02-05-2013 02:56 PM

He's a 3rd rounder to me right now.

I like him fine, the QB class a whole is just pretty weak at the top and unimpressive. Lots of 2nd-3rd round prospects

Babylon 02-05-2013 03:21 PM

To me he's somewhat similar to a Christian Ponder. When it's all said and done don't be surprised if he goes a lot higher than most in here would think.

mightytitan9 02-05-2013 03:22 PM

He reminds me of a poor mans Jake Locker, and that's saying something

Caulibflower 02-05-2013 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Babylon (Post 3266332)
To me he's somewhat similar to a Christian Ponder. When it's all said and done don't be surprised if he goes a lot higher than most in here would think.

I agree. You might even call him Ponder with a stronger arm.

Brown Leader 02-05-2013 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon Sandcastle (Post 3266227)
Maaaan Russ Lande really loves Nassib. Is this projection based on what he's hearing or how he grades?

At least he's not an echo.

EDIT: Alison Brie could get all of it.

I think it's all his grade.

WCH 02-05-2013 04:42 PM

Russ Lande says stuff like this every year. The stuff he ultimately publishes in Sporting News tends to be more "inside the box," but he generally has some pretty unconventional rankings.

Babylon 02-05-2013 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by WCH (Post 3266453)
Russ Lande says stuff like this every year. The stuff he ultimately publishes in Sporting News tends to be more "inside the box," but he generally has some pretty unconventional rankings.

I know it's always a gamble but if I were the Chiefs and wanted Nassib I'd be begging teams to take the pick. I wouldn't stop at trading the pick just once either.

bucfan12 02-05-2013 05:30 PM

I see Kevin Kolb as the perfect comparison to Nassib.

SchizophrenicBatman 02-05-2013 05:34 PM

This guy's website is hilarious. He has "select" scouting reports where basically he boasts about his biggest hits. These hits include liking Jovan Haye and disliking Eric Shelton. And it goes back to Brady's draft class!


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