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brat316 01-30-2013 08:40 PM

Michael Buchanan, DE / OLB, Illinois
 
Junior year tape looked great, senior was meh, though maybe because of he had his jaw shut and lost 20 lbs.


I think he has great mid round potential, maybe 2nd/3rd round if he has an amazing combine. But tape alone is 3rd/4th round, from his junior year its very good, though he did have a 1st rounder helping him.




2011


2012

Now he doesn't have the same explosions off the line, but he does well in space. You can clearly see he isn't playing with the same strength he was the previous year. He does a really good job of standing up and playing the run in the middle of nowhere and even staying back on the backside cutoff.




This is where my concerns lie, can he be just as explosive again? 1 trick pony that only uses his speed? Once in a while you see the bull, but he gets locked up, a few times see the spin. But mainly beating guys on the inside speed or outside speed.

Is he a 3-4 or 4-3? Stand up and hand in the dirt?

mightytitan9 01-30-2013 11:30 PM

To me, he's like a 4th round pick unless he comes in at around 255 and shows good athleticism. I think he's probably going to be a 3-4 guy, but some 4-3 team may give him a shot if they don't mind an undersized DE.

He likely won't get looked at much from a 4-3 team unless he's at least 250. In his case, I think scouts will take the injury into effect because any player is going to lose a lot of strength when they lose 20 pounds (when they need that 20 pounds). He's undersized right now and will move up a lot if he can get up in that 255-260 range and show the same ability that we think he has

duesouth 01-31-2013 04:34 AM

Very quiet at the Senior Bowl. Very thin build - ankles are very thin, almost looks like Johnthan Banks in the lower body!

Senior tape is poor. Can't set an edge - I think it was the Arizona State game I remember that being a problem particularly.

Day three unless he is fantastic at the Combine, but even then not sure I'd touch him.

Scott Wright 01-31-2013 12:01 PM

I am still on the bandwagon, although I am leaning towards outside linebacker in an odd front being his best fit at the next level. Either way this guy is a fantastic looking athlete.

Underrated in my opinion.

wicket 01-31-2013 12:18 PM

the annual illinois player who shoots up the draftboard at the latest moment?

bigbenn 02-01-2013 12:15 AM

Best DE in the draft with Tank Carradine. Also Hawthorne is best CB.

bigbenn 02-01-2013 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wicket (Post 3261230)
the annual illinois player who shoots up the draftboard at the latest moment?

One of them haha. Pick your choice between Buchanan, Hawthorne, Thornton or Justin Green (Watch out for him 3rd-4th round maybe even 2nd. There will be at least 5 Illini drafted.

brat316 02-01-2013 01:08 AM

At least we know Zook could recruit talent.

descendency 02-01-2013 04:59 AM

What I saw there looked like a LB playing DE, but I'm not really sure his athleticism is good enough to cover how he needs. If he has a bad combine, then 34 ILB might be his only position.

It's definitely hard to judge him because Illinois does some weird things with their responsibilities and whatnot. I was just unimpressed with him as an edge rusher.

bigbenn 02-01-2013 08:26 AM

I don't think Buchanan falls further than 20...also should say if you think this past wave of great Illini players was something, wait until this next wave emerges...I'm talking Darius Caldwell (Going to be even better than Mercilus, Buchanan, etc.), Teko Powell, Jon Davis/Matt LaCosse, Darrius Millines, Pat Flavin, etc. And keep an eye open for this 2013 class down the line led by QB Aaron Bailey...he has #1 pick potential down the line. The Illini aren't stopping anytime soon.

bigbenn 02-01-2013 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mightytitan9 (Post 3260945)
To me, he's like a 4th round pick unless he comes in at around 255 and shows good athleticism. I think he's probably going to be a 3-4 guy, but some 4-3 team may give him a shot if they don't mind an undersized DE.

He likely won't get looked at much from a 4-3 team unless he's at least 250. In his case, I think scouts will take the injury into effect because any player is going to lose a lot of strength when they lose 20 pounds (when they need that 20 pounds). He's undersized right now and will move up a lot if he can get up in that 255-260 range and show the same ability that we think he has

He was over 250 this past season...would've likely topped 260 if he hadn't broke his jaw. Also should add he was nicked up at times this year...and should add as well that strength won't be a problem for Buchanan...he has uncanny wiry strength. He might be inconsistent sometimes but its there. Just ask the MSU OT he bull rushed straight back to the QB as a 225 soph, etc. Buchanan reminds me of Jason Taylor but the strength is a x-factor.


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