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Poz51 04-19-2013 12:30 PM

Mock, Mock, Mock, done for the season? 4 Rounds, trades, and tons of fun...
 
This will likely be my final effort before Thursday, no commentary as I just dont have the time, as always I will respond and explain when I can, enjoy!!

2013 NFL Mock Draft
Round 1 (v7.0)


1 – Kansas City – Eric Fisher (LT – C. Michigan)
Grade: Top 5

2 – Jacksonville – Dion Jordan (OLB/DE – Oregon)
Grade: Top 10

*Trade*
Oakland trades the 3rd pick to Arizona for the 7th and 38th picks in the 2013 draft.

3 – Arizona (via. Oakland) – Lane Johnson (LT – Oklahoma)
Grade: Top 5

4 – Philadelphia – Luke Joeckel (LT – Texas A & M)
Grade: Top 5

5 – Detroit – Ezekiel Ansah (DE – B.Y.U.)
Grade: Top 20

6 – Cleveland – Dee Milliner (CB – Alabama)
Grade: Top 20

7 – Oakland (via. Arizona) – Star Lotulelei (DT/NT/DE – Utah)
Grade: Top 5

*Trade*
Buffalo trades the 8th pick to St. Louis for the 22nd, 184th and a 2014 1st Round pick (Higher of the two).

8 – St. Louis (via. Buffalo) – Tevon Austin (WR – W. Virginia)
Grade: Top 20

9 – N.Y.J. – Barkevious Mingo (OLB – L.S.U.)
Grade: Top 20

*Trade*
Tennessee trades the 10th pick to Minnesota for the 25th, 189th and the Vikings 2014 first round pick.

10 – Minnesota (via. Tennessee) – Shariff Floyd (DT – Florida)
Grade: Top 20

11 – San Diego – Chance Womack (G – Alabama)
Grade: Top 5

12 – Miami – D.J. Hayden (CB – Houston)
Grade: Top 20

*Trade*
Tampa Bay trades the 13th pick and a 2014 3rd round pick to the N.Y.J. for Darrelle Revis.
*Trade*
N.Y.J. trades the 13th pick to Dallas for the 18th, 82nd and 151st picks in the 2013 draft.

13 – Dallas (via. N.Y.J./Tampa Bay) – Kenny Vaccaro (SS/FS – Texas)
Grade: Top 20

14 – Carolina – Sheldon Richardson (DT – Mizzu.)
Grade: Top 20

15 – New Orleans – Jarvis Jones (OLB – Georgia)
Grade: Top 20

16 – St. Louis – Jonathan Cooper (G/C – U.N.C.)
Grade: Top 20

17 – Pittsburgh – Cordarrelle Patterson (WR – Tennessee)
Grade: Top 20

18 – N.Y.J. (via. Dallas) – Tyler Eifert (TE – Notre Dame)
Grade: Top 20

19 – N.Y.G. – Xavier Rhodes (CB – F.S.U.)
Grade: Top 20

*Trade*
Chicago trades the 20th pick to Philadelphia for the 35th, 69th and 136th picks in the 2013 draft.

20 – Philadelphia (via. Chicago) – Geno Smith (QB – W. Virginia)
Grade: 2nd Round

21 – Cincinnati – D.J. Fluker (RT – Alabama)
Grade: Top 20

22 – Buffalo (via. St. Louis/Washington) – Matt Barkley (QB – U.S.C.)
Grade: 1st Round

23 – Minnesota – Keenan Allen (WR – California)
Grade: Top 20

24 – Indianapolis – DeAndre Hopkins (WR – Clemson)
Grade: Top 20

25 – Tennessee (via. Minnesota /Seattle) – Bjoern Werner (DE – F.S.U.)
Grade: Top 20

26 – Green Bay – Jesse Williams (NT – Alabama)
Grade: 1st Round

27 – Houston – Justin Hunter (WR – Tennessee)
Grade: 2nd Round

28 – Denver – Damontre Moore (DE/OLB – Texas A & M)
Grade: 1st Round

29 – New England – Desmond Trufant (CB – Washington)
Grade: Top 20

30 – Atlanta – Jamar Taylor (CB – Boise St.)
Grade: 1st Round

31 – San Francisco – Dantone Jones (DE – U.C.L.A.)
Grade: Top 20

32 – Baltimore – Kahseem Greene (ILB – Rutgers)
Grade: 1st Round

Round 2

33 – Jacksonville – Ryan Nassib (QB – Syracuse)
Grade: 1st Round

34 – San Francisco (via. K.C.) – Johnathan Banks (FS/CB – Miss. St.)
Grade: 1st Round

35 – Chicago (via. Philadelphia) – Arthur Brown (OLB/ILB K. State)
Grade: 1st Round

36 – Detroit – Terron Armstead (LT – Arkansas-Pine Bluff)
Grade: 2nd Round

37 – Cincinnati (via. Oakland) – Alec Ogletree (OLB – Georgia)
Grade: 1st Round

38 – Oakland (via. Arizona) – Jamie Collins (OLB – S. Mississippi)
Grade: 1st Round

39 – Cleveland – Josh Gordon Supplemental Draft

40 – N.Y.J. – Eddie Lacy (RB – Alabama)
Grade: 2nd Round

41 – Tennessee – Larry Warford (G – Kentucky)
Grade: 1st Round

42 – Buffalo – Robert Woods (WR – U.S.C.)
Grade: 2nd Round

43 – Miami – Kyle Long (LT/G – Oregon)
Grade: 2nd Round

44 – Tampa Bay – Johnathan Hankins (DT – O.S.U.)
Grade: 2nd Round

45 – Carolina – Matt Elam (FS – Florida)
Grade: 2nd Round

46 – New Orleans – Bounty Gate

47 – San Diego – Justin Pugh (LT/G – Syracuse)
Grade: 2nd Round

48 – St. Louis – Eric Reid (SS/FS – L.S.U.)
Grade: 2nd Round

49 – Dallas – Kwann Short (DT – Purdue)
Grade: 1st Round

50 – Pittsburgh – Kevin Minter (ILB – L.S.U.)
Grade: 1st Round

51 – N.Y.G. – Manelik Watson (T – F.S.U.)
Grade: 2nd Round

52 – Chicago – David Amerson (CB – N.C. St.)
Grade: 2nd Round

53 – Washington – Phillip Thomas (FS – Fresno St.)
Grade: 2nd round

54 – Minnesota – Manti Te’o (ILB – Notre Dame)
Grade: 2nd Round

55 – Cincinnati – Jonathan Cyprien (SS – F.I.U.)
Grade: 2nd Round

56 – Miami (via. Indy) – Cornellius Carradine (DE – F.S.U.)
Grade: 2nd Round

57 – Green Bay – Quinton Patton (WR – La. Tech.)
Grade: 2nd Round

58 – Seattle – Sylvester Williams (DT – U.N.C.)
Grade: 2nd Round

59 – Houston – E.J. Manual (QB – F.S.U.)
Grade: 3rd Round

60 – Denver – Jordan Poyer (CB – Oregon St.)
Grade: 2nd Round

61 – New England – Aaron Dobson (WR – Marshall)
Grade: 2nd Round

62 – Atlanta – Zach Ertz (TE – Stanford)
Grade: 2nd Round

63 – Baltimore – D.J. Swearinger (SS – S. Carolina)
Grade: 3rd Round

64 – San Francisco – Darius Slay (CB – Miss. St.)
Grade: 2nd Round

Round 3

65 – Kansas City – Tyler Wilson (QB – Arkansas)
Grade: 2nd Round

66 – Jacksonville – Logan Ryan (CB – Rutgers)
Grade: 2nd Round

67 – Detroit – Travis Frederick (C/G – Wisconsin)
Grade: 2nd Round

68 – Oakland – Alex Okafor (DE – Texas)
Grade: 2nd round

69 – Chicago (via. Philadelphia) – Barrett Jones (G/C/T – Alabama)
Grade: 2nd Round

70 – Cleveland – Brian Winters (G – Kent St.)
Grade: 2nd Round

71 – Arizona – Corey Lemonier (OLB/DE – Auburn)
Grade: 3rd Round

72 – Tennessee – Robert Alford (CB – Southeastern Louisiana)
Grade: 2nd Round

73 – Buffalo – Vance McDonald (TE – Rice)
Grade: 2nd Round

74 – N.Y.J. – Mike Glennon (QB – N.C. St.)
Grade: 2nd Round

75 – Tampa – B.W. Webb (CB – William & Mary)
Grade: 3rd Round

76 – San Francisco (via. Carolina) – Brian Schwenke (C/G – Cal.)
Grade: 2nd Round

77 – New Orleans – Shamarko Thomas (SS – Syracuse)
Grade: 2nd Round

78 – San Diego – Marcus Wheaton (WR – Oregon St.)
Grade: 2nd Round

79 – Miami – Travis Kelce (TE – Cincinnati)
Grade: 3rd Round

80 – St. Louis – Montee Ball (RB – Wisconsin)
Grade: 2nd Round

81 – Pittsburgh – Trevardo Williams (OLB – U. Conn.)
Grade: 3rd Round

82 – N.Y.J. (via. Dallas) – Bacarri Rambo (FS – Georgia)
Grade: 2nd Round

83 – N.Y.G. – Sio Moore (OLB – U. Conn.)
Grade: 2nd Round

84 – Miami (via. Chicago) – Brandon Williams (DT – Missouri Southern St.)
Grade: 3rd Round

85 – Minnesota – Blidi Wreh-Wilson (CB – U. Conn.)
Grade: 3rd Round

86 – Cincinnati – Jonathan Franklin (RB – U.C.L.A.)
Grade: 2nd Round

87 – Washington – Dwayne Gratz (CB – U. Conn.)
Grade: 3rd Round

88 – Indianapolis – David Bakhtiari (G/T – Colorado)
Grade: 2nd Round

89 – Seattle – Sean Porter (OLB – Texas A & M)
Grade: 3rd Round

90 – Green Bay – Gavin Escobar (TE – San Diego St.)
Grade: 3rd Round

91 – Houston – Tyrann Mathieu (CB – L.S.U.)
Grade: 3rd Round

92 – Denver – Le’Veon Bell (RB – Michigan St.)
Grade: 2nd Round

93 – New England – Dallas Thomas (G/T – Tennessee)
Grade: 3rd Round

94 – Atlanta – Sam Montgomery (DE – L.S.U.)
Grade: 3rd Round

95 – San Francisco – Kiko Alonso (ILB – Oregon)
Grade: 3rd Round

96 – Baltimore – Stedman Bailey (WR – W. Virginia)
Grade: 3rd Round

97 – Houston (Comp.) – John Jenkins (NT – Georgia)
Grade: 3rd Round

98 – Kansas City (Comp.) – Christine Michael (RB – Texas A & M)
Grade: 3rd Round

99 – Tennessee (Comp.) – Terrance Williams (WR – Baylor)
Grade: 3rd Round

Round 4

100 – Jacksonville – T.J. McDonald (FS – U.S.C.)
Grade: 3rd Round

101 – Kansas City – A.J. Klein (ILB – Iowa St.)
Grade: 4th Round

102 – Oakland – Tharold Simon (CB – L.S.U.)
Grade: 3rd Round

103 – Philadelphia – Margus Hunt (DE – S. Methodist)
Grade: 4th Round

104 – Minnesota (via. Detroit) – Duke Williams (SS – Nevada)
Grade: 3rd Round

105 – Arizona – Josh Evans (FS – Florida)
Grade: 4th Round

106 - Cleveland - Robert Lester (FS - Alabama)
Grade: 4th Round

107 – Buffalo – Marquise Goodwin (WR – Texas)
Grade: 4th Round

108 – N.Y.J. – Brennan Williams (RT – U.N.C.)
Grade: 4th Round

109 – Tennessee – Tyler Bray (QB – Tennessee)
Grade: 4th Round

110 – Carolina – Montori Hughes (DT – Tennessee-Martin)
Grade: 4th Round

111 – New Orleans – Vinston Painter (LT – Virginia Tech.)
Grade: 4th Round

112 – San Diego – Sanders Commings (CB – Georgia)
Grade: 4th Round

113 – Miami – Earl Wolf (S – N.C. St.)
Grade: 4th Round

114 – Tampa Bay – Ryan Swope (WR – Texas A & M)
Grade: 4th Round

115 – St. Louis – Gerald Hodges (OLB – Penn. St.)
Grade: 4th Round

116 – Dallas – Alvin Bailey (G – Arkansas)
Grade: 3rd Round

117 – Pittsburgh – Marcus Lattimore (RB – S. Carolina)
Grade: 4th Round

118 – N.Y.G. – Matt Scott (QB – Arizona)
Grade: 3rd Round

119 – Chicago – Akeem Spence (DT – Illinois)
Grade: 4th Round

120 – Cincinnati – Lavar Edwards (DE – L.S.U.)
Grade: 4th Round

121 – Washington – J.J. Wilcox (SS – Georgia Southern)
Grade: 3rd Round

122 – Minnesota – Giovani Bernard (RB – U.N.C.)
Grade: 3rd Round

123 – Indianapolis – Zaviar Gooden (OLB – Missouri)
Grade: 4th Round

124 – Green Bay – David Quessenberry (T/G/C – San Jose St.)
Grade: 4th Round

125 – Seattle – Tony Jefferson (S – Oklahoma)
Grade: 4th Round

126 – Houston – Andre Ellington (RB – Clemson)
Grade: 3rd Round

127 – Denver – Jordan Hill (DT – Penn. St.)
Grade: 4th Round

128 – Tampa Bay (via. New England) – Jordan Reed (TE – Florida)
Grade: 4th Round

129 – Atlanta – Leon McFadden (CB – San Diego St.)
Grade: 3rd Round

130 – San Francisco – Chase Thomas(OLB - Stanford)
Grade: 4th Round

131 – Baltimore – Jordan Mills (T – Louisiana Tech.)
Grade: 5th Round

132 – Baltimore (Comp.) – John Simon (OLB – Ohio St.)
Grade: 4th Round

133 – San Francisco (Comp.) – Da’Rick Rodgers (WR – Tennessee Tech.)
Grade: 3rd Round

134 – Detroit (Comp.) – Will Davis (CB – Utah St.)
Grade: 4th Round

135 – Atlanta (Comp.) – Landry Jones (QB – Oklahoma)
Grade: 4th Round

mightytitan9 04-19-2013 01:06 PM

There's a few players being taken over other players and player values that I find questionable, Johnson over Joeckel for example, but things like that do happen sometimes in real life.

For my Titans, it's an overall very good draft that I would be thrilled with. The trade in the first makes sense, but at the same time, from the front offices eyes, I don't think they would make that specific trade because all they gain this year is a 6th rounder. The Titans GM, and coaches are in win now mode so they would want something that would help them this year, pick 25, pick 52, pick120 and a 2nd round selection next year would likely be more likely of a trade.

The only other thing that I really noticed is In the 4th I'd prefer the Titans select either CB Sanders Commings or WR Ryan Swope

Poz51 04-19-2013 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mightytitan9 (Post 3335455)
There's a few players being taken over other players and player values that I find questionable, Johnson over Joeckel for example, but things like that do happen sometimes in real life.

For my Titans, it's an overall very good draft that I would be thrilled with. The trade in the first makes sense, but at the same time, from the front offices eyes, I don't think they would make that specific trade because all they gain this year is a 6th rounder. The Titans GM, and coaches are in win now mode so they would want something that would help them this year, pick 25, pick 52, pick120 and a 2nd round selection next year would likely be more likely of a trade.

The only other thing that I really noticed is In the 4th I'd prefer the Titans select either CB Sanders Commings or WR Ryan Swope

I figured I would get some questions regarding my rankings and certain picks, I happen to have Fisher as my #1 LT, followed by Johnson then Joeckel. IMO Johnson is the best athlete of the 3 with the most upside which is why he is my #2 following Fisher who IMO is the most well rounded of the 3. I also think Johnson fits what Arizona wants to do the most of the 3. If Johnson got more push in the run game I would have him #1 overall.

Interesting thought on the win now aspect, I did not think they were under that kind of pressure this year. Having already taken a CB and WR, do you still think they would double down on either spot? I thought about Swope, but passed...

BallerT1215 04-19-2013 01:44 PM

I like the trade down, but I wish we could get more for this years draft than just the additional 184 pick. The 2014 1st rnder would be solid but I just feel like we need to maximize this draft as much as we can for our depth which is severly lacking at some positions.

I like the picks though - Love Barkley @ 22, Woods in the 2nd rnd, and getting a receiving TE in the 3rd. Pretty much building our offense up is a good idea and spend our money on the defense. I think Goodwin might be an overkill in the 4th, and that we would probably go pass rusher at that point if we had not already. I'm having a feeling we will not be going OG like I thought just because Nix said they have 6 people on the roster already that they like for o-line.

Overall good mock.

Akon777 04-19-2013 01:44 PM

I would be very upset if Dallas traded up to take Vacarro if Warmack or Cooper are still on the board

Menardo75 04-19-2013 01:47 PM

IF the Niners are taking a CB/S conversion guy it would probably be Amerson. The rest of the mock looks good. I love Alonzo but I don't like the Bostic pick. I like him as a player but they don't need two backup ILB's.

Poz51 04-19-2013 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BallerT1215 (Post 3335483)
I like the trade down, but I wish we could get more for this years draft than just the additional 184 pick. The 2014 1st rnder would be solid but I just feel like we need to maximize this draft as much as we can for our depth which is severly lacking at some positions.

I like the picks though - Love Barkley @ 22, Woods in the 2nd rnd, and getting a receiving TE in the 3rd. Pretty much building our offense up is a good idea and spend our money on the defense. I think Goodwin might be an overkill in the 4th, and that we would probably go pass rusher at that point if we had not already. I'm having a feeling we will not be going OG like I thought just because Nix said they have 6 people on the roster already that they like for o-line.

Overall good mock.

I thought about going in a "this year" type of trade, but IMO the Rams are in the same boat in that regard, and I like the long term value this trade provides to the franchise. The comprimise was the higher of next years two firsts from the Rams. I think with this year being a transition year, I would rather build and see what we have, then have more options next year from which to build with.
As for Goodwin, I had him as the BPA, and thought if they are considering Austin at 8, Goodwin is a possibility and with Johnson, Woods, Graham and now Goodwin they would have a really solid set of recievers that compliment each other, and adds a explosive element to the team. I looked at pass rushers, but did not have any with nearly the value...
I really liked it, especially after having to redo most of it having had Vaccaro at 8, 3 days ago... I think the players are very realistic of what they might end up with at this point, smoke screens aside.

Robcards 04-19-2013 02:04 PM

Why are 2 of the top 3 Jets needs not addressed in 4 rounds of picks? We have no TE and no FS right now. Cumberland and josh Bush are hardly even worth backup jobs.

DiG 04-19-2013 02:06 PM

Position ally the skins draft is fine but not crazy about Phillip Thomas in rd 2. I think he's more of 3/4 value. Would rather trade down or take higher value in rd 2. shanny tends to follow best player available at position of need and I do not think Thomas fits that philosophy in this situation.

Poz51 04-19-2013 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Menardo75 (Post 3335491)
IF the Niners are taking a CB/S conversion guy it would probably be Amerson. The rest of the mock looks good. I love Alonzo but I don't like the Bostic pick. I like him as a player but they don't need two backup ILB's.

I actually like Banks as a FS who can play CB, and in both aspects a better fit into the 9ers 3-4. I thought about Amerson, but have Banks rated higher, and like Amerson more as a zone corner who could play Safety in a 4-3. I watched a lot of Banks early tape when he played FS at Miss St. and really liked what I saw, and actually thought he was better suited there as his read and react, instincts and over all awareness were superb.
I could not agree more about the Bostic pick, and changed it to Chase Thomas, which stacks the talent at OLB, and I would agree that they do not need two ILB's.

Poz51 04-19-2013 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robcards (Post 3335517)
Why are 2 of the top 3 Jets needs not addressed in 4 rounds of picks? We have no TE and no FS right now. Cumberland and josh Bush are hardly even worth backup jobs.

See picks 18 and 82, then come at me bro...

BuckeyeBrown133 04-19-2013 02:12 PM

Did Cleveland trade their 4th rounder?

mightytitan9 04-19-2013 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poz51 (Post 3335472)

Interesting thought on the win now aspect, I did not think they were under that kind of pressure this year. Having already taken a CB and WR, do you still think they would double down on either spot? I thought about Swope, but passed...

I think it's definitely possible we'd draft two at WR and/or CB. The WR position is fine for this upcoming season, but Britt and Williams are FAs after this season and Washington has already been on the trading block, if he does make it thru this season he likely won't be around for 2014.

What does this mean? We could potentially only have Kendall Wright and Michael Preston as our WRs in 2014. We have already expressed extreme interest in upgrading the slot position. So therefore, Terrance Williams could play on the outside and Swope take over the slot.

As for Commings, the Titans have expressed extreme interest in him and I am not sure if we have interest in him as a CB or S. At CB, Verner is a FA after this season and at S Pollard is too, Wilson is on a cheap contract that we can get out of relatively easily.

jrdrylie 04-19-2013 02:16 PM

If the Bears could trade down, gain a third and a fifth, and still get Arthur Brown, I could be ecstatic! I don't know how I feel about Amerson but I don't hate it. I really like Barrett Jones as a third round pick, but I would prefer Schwenke. But overall a good job. Three starters plus some d-line depth, A-.

coordinator0 04-19-2013 02:18 PM

That's not a bad Ravens draft. Greene might be a reach at 32 but I'm a big fan of his. Swearinger is a nice pick in the second round too. As is Bailey in the third round. Mills is okay in the 4th round even though he projects as a RT. It sounds like Baltimore would really prefer to keep Oher at RT. Simon is the only pick don't like much. Even though he has some pass-rushing skills I think he still projects as a SAM in a 3-4 and Baltimore is more than set at that position with Upshaw.

wicket 04-19-2013 03:24 PM

not a fan of vinston painter but i love the other 2 saints picks

Robcards 04-19-2013 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poz51 (Post 3335527)
See picks 18 and 82, then come at me bro...

K well we don't have those picks in real life so I didn't think to look there. Great draft now lol, Mingo and Eifert in the first would be perfect.

T-RICH49 04-19-2013 03:48 PM

I'd go Williams over Michael with the comp pick.A speed guy to compliment Bowe would be great

K Train 04-19-2013 03:58 PM

Cordarrelle Patterson is amazing, just the perfect pick

Ertz, Lemonier, and Amerson would be MUCH better than minter in 2. Ertz fills a need at TE and hes a player that shouldnt be falling that much, but with heath hurt this would ease the pain. Lemonier is a guy the steelers brass like a lot as an OLB, another guy that will be a riser on draft day. Amerson could play CB or FS for the steelers (Looovvveeee him as a FS, but hes good in off zone so either way is fine)

In the 3rd round they better take Margus Hunt, hes literally PERFECT to fill in for Keisel. Big body to play DE but athletic enough to stand up and play OLB in a pinch (keisel cant really anymore, but that was how he found his niche in the defense)

Absolutely love the lattimore pick, actually i love any RB pick thats not Leveon Bell but Lattimore is hands down my favorite

Pat Sims 90 04-19-2013 04:48 PM

Bengals draft is ok.

LonghornsLegend 04-19-2013 04:51 PM

Hahaha...The Rams move up from 22 to 8 for a future 1st round pick? Lolllzz.

TimmG6376 04-19-2013 06:59 PM

I know some of my fellow Cheeseheads will question Jesse Williams in round 1, but personally that is a damn fine first 4 rounds for Green Bay.

farfromforgotten 04-19-2013 08:25 PM

Haven't given a lot of thought to Banks at FS. That's a good draft for the niners.

Bobo 04-19-2013 09:34 PM

Very unique take on the Titans, and I like it. MightyTitan has a point about the win-now deal. But I like the thought of Werner at 25 followed by Warford. Alford seems like a good fit. Haven't paid much attention to the Baylor WR, but I need to check him out. Bray is worth that 4th. If his head is not in his ass, he has serious tools to work with. Did I miss the DaRick Rogers pick? Bray to Rogers still has a nice ring to it.

Two 1st's next year would be fun :)

Kyle472 04-19-2013 09:51 PM

Hahahaha... Joeckel the 3rd OT taken, nice April fools joke you got here.


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