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Black Bolt 04-28-2013 10:06 PM

The NFL Draft - It's a Changin!
 
This years draft was very enjoyable. A few things stuck out to me this year:

Because of electronic media, fans are more informed

I have been a member of this board for a few years. I've been talking draft on various message boards since 1996. While opinions are what they are, the knowledge of the fan base has increased among draftniks and also more casual draft fans alike. I can tell the latter by my conversations with a my friends and colleagues. There is a lot of information out there, and with social media like bogs, better NFLN programming, twitter accounts and even fan run football sites, the sharing of information is at an all time high.

The game of football is becoming more international

Ziggy Ansah- Ghana. Menelik Watson- England. Bjoern Werner- Germany. Margus Hunt- Estonia. All of these guys were went gone by the 21st pick of the 2nd round. Amazing when you think about it.

The gap between the draft pundits and team GMs is growing exponentially.

It's funny, as the draft coverage increase, it appears that the draft pundits know less and less about team needs and how teams have players ranked. For example, the QB that was taken first wasn't ranked in the top 6 only about two months ago. And a "top five" prospect on "everyone's board" not only fell to number 23, two DTs including a 3 technique like Floyd was taken ahead of him. Finally, two QBs once billed to be first rounders both lasted until the 4th round. The 4th round! It' more and more evident that teams have shut their doors to these name dropping draft pundits who have Phd's in Monkey See Monkey Rank. What these guys need to do to save face is do their OWN ranking and stop trying to be psychics.

Teams have adjusted positively to the new rookie wage salary structure.

This was a great move by the NFL. Quick, who had a terrible draft? Pretty much no one did. Even the draft most rank as the worst, the Cowboys, actually got good players. It was the draft strategy that was questioned. That's because teams are now able to move around more freely to get players they want/need. That and the fact that teams appear to care even less what the pundits say.

WCH 04-28-2013 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Bolt (Post 3351223)
The gap between the draft pundits and team GMs is growing exponentially.

It's funny, as the draft coverage increase, it appears that the draft pundits know less and less about team needs and how teams have players ranked. For example, the QB that was taken first wasn't ranked in the top 6 only about two months ago. And a "top five" prospect on "everyone's board" not only fell to number 23, two DTs including a 3 technique like Floyd was taken ahead of him. Finally, two QBs once billed to be first rounders both lasted until the 4th round. The 4th round! It' more and more evident that teams have shut their doors to these name dropping draft pundits who have Phd's in Monkey See Monkey Rank. What these guys need to do to save face is do their OWN ranking and stop trying to be psychics.

Yeah, I think it's pretty obvious that scouts and "anonymous sources" have figured out that they can lie to beat writers and other pundits, and those pundits will adjust their mock drafts accordingly. The Bills did an especially great job of this.

J-Mike88 04-28-2013 10:13 PM

I still prefer a Sat-Sunday Draft fest over the Thu-Fri-Sat one.
What's wrong with Sundays & football?

I still dislike both network's coverage in the latter rounds when picks come about every 2 minutes.

TALK ABOUT EACH ONE please.
Is that too much to ask from them, to talk about what's happening?

By the way, I don't see a gap between GMs and pundits "growing".
Go back and review drafts in the 90's, 80's, 70's... there have always been some serious surprises, questionable picks, both good and bad.

J255979-11nine 04-28-2013 10:15 PM

I don't mind the 3 days at all. I just wish it didn't start on a damn thursday.

WCH 04-28-2013 10:18 PM

Friday, Saturday, Sunday would be much better.

falloutboy14 04-28-2013 10:29 PM

I think the pundits were off this year because it was a peculiar year. Look at last years draft. I'm willing to bet aside from the draft day trades, the majority of people were on target. Obviously once you're a dozen picks into the draft everything goes to hell.

MI_Buckeye 04-28-2013 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by WCH (Post 3351232)
Friday, Saturday, Sunday would be much better.

They'll never start it on a Friday. Friday is a horrible night for TV, and why would the NFL put their premier offseason event on during when casual fans are out actually living a life?

Black Bolt 04-29-2013 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by MI_Buckeye (Post 3351272)
They'll never start it on a Friday. Friday is a horrible night for TV, and why would the NFL put their premier offseason event on during when casual fans are out actually living a life?

What's the difference? They start at 6:30pm on Friday anyway. Do you really think the public would be opposed to watching the first day of the draft on a Friday night? Hell, how many sports bars would have their TVs locked on NFLN/ESPN?

jth1331 04-29-2013 12:47 AM

The rookie wage scale definitely has affected how teams draft. Teams can now pick BPA, instead of taking a guy who would be worth paying the amount he would cost at that spot.
Two guards went in the top 10, no way does that happen 5 years ago no matter how good of a prospect they might be.

bigbuc 04-29-2013 01:16 AM

I loved the old days. Saturday rounds 1-3 and Sunday 4-7. Something about hanging out all day watching, talking football made it like a super bowl day. But I understand why they moved it around. That one year when the first round was 6 hours killed it for every one.

I just hate the the west coast get the shaft. Not home by the time the draft starts on Thursday and on Friday it starts at 3:30!

Black Bolt 04-29-2013 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bigbuc (Post 3351310)
I loved the old days. Saturday rounds 1-3 and Sunday 4-7. Something about hanging out all day watching, talking football made it like a super bowl day. But I understand why they moved it around. That one year when the first round was 6 hours killed it for every one.

I just hate the the west coast get the shaft. Not home by the time the draft starts on Thursday and on Friday it starts at 3:30!

I'd love a a Friday, Sat and Sun draft.

WCH 04-29-2013 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bigbuc (Post 3351310)
I loved the old days. Saturday rounds 1-3 and Sunday 4-7. Something about hanging out all day watching, talking football made it like a super bowl day. But I understand why they moved it around. That one year when the first round was 6 hours killed it for every one.

I just hate the the west coast get the shaft. Not home by the time the draft starts on Thursday and on Friday it starts at 3:30!

People on the east coast complain about having to stay up until midnight on Thursday, and feel like they're catering to the west coast.

BRAVEHEART 04-29-2013 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by WCH (Post 3351580)
People on the east coast complain about having to stay up until midnight on Thursday, and feel like they're catering to the west coast.

As someone who currently lives on the east coast, **** the eastcoast.

BallerT1215 04-29-2013 01:44 PM

Really wish it would go back to weekend draft as well or at least Friday, Sat, Sun.

Black Bolt 04-29-2013 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BRAVEHEART (Post 3351683)
As someone who currently lives on the east coast, **** the eastcoast.

The east coast told me to tell you **** you harder. :cj:

Well, at least your Lakers have a shot as winning a game or two. :lynched:

BRAVEHEART 04-29-2013 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Bolt (Post 3351713)
The east coast told me to tell you **** you harder. :cj:

Well, at least your Lakers have a shot as winning a game or two. :lynched:

:facepalm:


Not a laker fan and never have been.

MI_Buckeye 04-29-2013 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Bolt (Post 3351282)
What's the difference? They start at 6:30pm on Friday anyway. Do you really think the public would be opposed to watching the first day of the draft on a Friday night? Hell, how many sports bars would have their TVs locked on NFLN/ESPN?

Have you ever wondered why no networks run new episodes of their really good shows on Friday night? The public might not explicitly say they're opposed, but the ratings would suffer. I understand you might prefer a Fri-Sat-Sun format, but it will never happen.


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