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Caulibflower 07-07-2013 04:45 PM

CFL Discussion Thread
 
With a bunch of games being shown on NBC Sports this year (And TSN, and you can find live streams online), I wonder if anyone in here is following the action. There are quite a few players who got talked about a lot in the draft forum who are now playing in Canada. Noel Devine is getting used as sort of a hybrid player, running a lot of fly sweeps. taking screens and returning kicks, and his speed is just on another level as the competiion. Kory Sheets became an immediate impact player for the Saskatchewan Rough Riders. Just watched CJ Gable score a touchdown for the Hamilton Tiger Cats.

There's quite a few different rules that I wasn't aware of before I started watching the games this year, like a 5-yard penalty for not returning a kick, and something weird about taking an intentional safety on a punt play that I still don't understand but saw a couple times last week.

But there's enough sharing of players between the league that in lieu of NFL action, I can get my football fix by watching the CFL and it seems like every year there's couple guys who successfully make the jump from the CFL to the NFL, so it's interesting in that regard as well. Anybody else watching the games?

stlouisfan37 07-07-2013 08:10 PM

I watched a game a week ago, at least part of it. The biggest difference I noticed was that offensive players are allowed to be moving towards the line of scrimmage when the ball is snapped, so long as they don't go offsides...kind of a "head start" so they are at full speed when the play begins. I'm not so sure how much of an advantage it is for the offense, though...while the WR's do get a running start, it completely gives away the snap count to defenders.

The game I watched (I believe it was Edmonton-Montreal) also featured a strange score that I didn't understand. When I turned the game on the score was 35-1. From what I gathered when googling it, the one point had something to do with a kickoff or a punt and is called a "single"...but I couldn't figure out what happened that caused the "single" to be awarded.

RufusMcDaniel 07-07-2013 08:13 PM

The single point is awarded off a missed FG or punt that isn't returned out of the endzone or if a punter punts the ball straight through the endzone. I'm sure there's a more elaborate explanation for it, but that's what google is for.

Rabscuttle 07-07-2013 09:33 PM

the rouge.

There are plays near the end of some games where a team puts a punter deep in the endzone to field and kick a punt or missed field goal out of the endzone to avoid the single point. The original kicking team can field that kick and try to kick it back in. No boring touchbacks allowed without giving up that single point. No fair catches allowed, but there is a five yard halo to make sure punts are returned and punt returners don't get murdered.

I'm not sure if punting teams are still allowed to keep a player onside with the punter to try to retrieve an onside punt or not.

brat316 07-07-2013 09:38 PM

Wait they can punt the ball back and forth?

Caulibflower 07-07-2013 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by brat316 (Post 3399393)
Wait they can punt the ball back and forth?

That seems to be what he's saying. that's... amazing.

DrunkenMonkey13 07-08-2013 05:33 PM

In regards to the rouges and punting back and forth, just search:

CFL Montreal at Toronto - Wild Ending - October 29, 2010 on youtube.

This is all you need to know about the CFL.

Caulibflower 07-08-2013 05:55 PM



I have no idea what I just watched.

DrunkenMonkey13 07-08-2013 05:59 PM

Yep, that's what I was referring to. Can't post links yet.

I have watched like 10 hours of the CFL in my life, I have a vague understanding of the rules that differ it from the NFL, but that is my all time favorite clip from any sport.

RufusMcDaniel 07-08-2013 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DrunkenMonkey13 (Post 3399836)
Yep, that's what I was referring to. Can't post links yet.

I have watched like 10 hours of the CFL in my life, I have a vague understanding of the rules that differ it from the NFL, but that is my all time favorite clip from any sport.

Pffft...Not even the best clip from the CFL.


DrunkenMonkey13 07-08-2013 06:30 PM

I do like that one. I'm pretty sure I saw it on a "100 worst celebrations" show or whatnot, but it just doesn't top the absurdity/hilarity of the punting back and forth, plus the announcer just seals it.

SunTzu_22 07-08-2013 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Caulibflower (Post 3399834)


I have no idea what I just watched.

What the hell..?? Now Im confused, and my head hurts.. Thanks a lot Caulib.. :njx:

Rabscuttle 07-08-2013 07:20 PM

And you guys thought I was making stuff up.

Anyhow, who wants to buy the patent for my 70mpg carburator?

fischbowl 07-08-2013 09:33 PM



LULAY SUPA STA

vikes_28 07-08-2013 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Caulibflower (Post 3399834)


I have no idea what I just watched.

This play is a lot like rugby. in rugby you can get the ball and kick it if you are in your own endzone. it's to get the other team farther away...in this case it was a failed attempt on the blue team.

Caulibflower 07-08-2013 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by fischbowl (Post 3399938)


LULAY SUPA STA



Love me some Lulay. GO LIONS!

CJSchneider 07-08-2013 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by njx9 (Post 3399963)
that's the most bizarre version of "football" i've ever seen.

They call "ham", "bacon", what do you expect?

prock 07-08-2013 11:27 PM

I'm going to pretend I never watched that video. For mental health reasons.

mightytitan9 07-09-2013 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Caulibflower (Post 3399834)


I have no idea what I just watched.

At least it was entertaining, I bet canadians were just sitting around and like "Hey, let's put a rule in where if it ever happens it will create mayhem on the field"

phlysac 07-09-2013 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Caulibflower (Post 3399834)


I have no idea what I just watched.

This is a new play design in the Bears' playbook.

Ness 07-09-2013 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by njx9 (Post 3399963)
that's the most bizarre version of "football" i've ever seen.

Imagine what soccer fans say about our **** doe.

mightytitan9 07-09-2013 04:57 PM

In all seriousness, that has got to drive coaches crazy. Not only is it complete mayhem, but it's dang hard to script out what's going to happen. You can be within 5 yards of the guy when the ball is first touched, and I assume if the ball is punted out of the endzone or out of bounds you lose?

mrjono 07-09-2013 08:35 PM

The way it works is if you take a touchback the other team gets a point. That's the easiest I've heard it explained.

Some other rule differences some more obvious than others:
1-foot catch
12 men per side at a time
field is around 1.5x as wide
endzones are 20-25 yards long (deep posts from the 2!)
Defence must line up a yard away from the offense
3 downs
If you're behind the guy punting the ball you can recover it. (my team used to run a hook and punt (think hook and ladder) play on 2nd and long)
Teams take safetys all the time instead of punting out of their own endzone
The ball is much bigger (CFL ran an ad campaign for a while with the slogan "our balls are bigger")

*edit* oh the best difference! It's almost impossible to get an excessive celebration penalty *edit*

and a fun factioid. For 50 years until the mid 1990s there were 9 teams in the league. One was called the Rough Riders and another was called the Roughriders. They met in the Grey Cup half a dozen times.

stlouisfan37 07-10-2013 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CJSchneider (Post 3399971)
They call "ham", "bacon", what do you expect?

Oh no, that isn't so...ham is ham...bacon is what we call Canadian bacon...they just don't bother to call it Canadian bacon because they have yet to realize that anywhere else in the world actually exists.

Oh, and the difference between ham and Canadian bacon? Canadian bacon comes from a female pig. Learned all that in one summer on my aunt & uncle's farm on the upper peninsula in Ontario. I believed them...I hope it's true.

Brent 07-10-2013 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by CJSchneider (Post 3399971)
They call "ham", "bacon", what do you expect?

Chaos. 10.char


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