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The Legend 10-03-2006 08:12 PM

Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila
 
he has 2 sacks on the year last year he had 8 sacks told

he had 4 years in a row with 10+ sacks , then what happen'd

do you guys think he will get 10 sacks this year

should he be traded in the offseason or let go

10 sacks in the last 20 games not that great of a stat

bltbjdd 10-03-2006 08:26 PM

KGB is my favorite lineman in the league, no doubt, I think that he will stay in Green Bay next year and will finish the year with more than 8 sacks. Last year he had no interior push at all or help from the linebackers much, this year the defense is better, all though they might not rank as high as they did last year under Jim Bates, but it is a better group and KGB should get IMO, 9.5 sacks this season.

Vince Lombardi 10-03-2006 08:38 PM

GB couldn't really afford to let him go from a talent perspective unless they draft somebody or sign a big FA, as him and Kampman are vastly superior to any of the other DE's on the team. He does have some big numbers on his contract though so he's definately gonna have to step up his production.

2006 3850000.00
2007 5000000.00
2008 6150000.00
2009 7300000.00

Honestly, I think his dip in production was more due to having no help on the D-line around him the last few years and it should improve this year.

70challenger457 10-03-2006 08:52 PM

If Mike Montgomery can step up this year and prove he's worth a starting job, release him, he's not worth the money

GB12 10-03-2006 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 70challenger457
If Mike Montgomery can step up this year and prove he's worth a starting job, release him, he's not worth the money

I think we would take a big cap hit though if we released him. If Montgomery steps upenough (unlikely that he will) then we can bring in KGB as just a pass rusher specialist.

jackalope 10-03-2006 10:07 PM

there are a ton of these threads

Greg Jennings has been great and had a big game last night

GB12 10-03-2006 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jackalope
there are a ton of these threads

Greg Jennings has been great and had a big game last night

Wrong thread. You must have meant to post in the
Best Rookies through 1 Quarter of the season thread. Jennings was mentioned in the first post there.

art vandelay 10-03-2006 10:54 PM

KGB is inconsistent and overrated IMO. Kampman is a much better DE.

Ward 10-03-2006 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by art vandelay
KGB is inconsistent and overrated IMO. Kampman is a much better DE.

Seriously, give me 4 Kampmans and you have a pretty damn good D-line.

bearfan 10-04-2006 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Ward
Quote:

Originally Posted by art vandelay
KGB is inconsistent and overrated IMO. Kampman is a much better DE.

Seriously, give me 4 Kampmans and you have a pretty damn good D-line.

well put both of you

BlindSite 10-04-2006 12:35 AM

IMO he'd be a beast at OLB in the 34, but he's only average and gets a lot of sacks against crappy opponents and then disappears.

bogart69 10-04-2006 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BlindSite
... but he's only average and gets a lot of sacks against crappy opponents and then disappears.

Totally agree..Plus he's undersized and gets manhandled too often.. 3rd down DE at best.. Kampman is miles ahead right now..

10-04-2006 04:52 PM

Does he have the quickness to play 34 OLB, and possibly stongside?

GB12 10-04-2006 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by freddygoombatts
Does he have the quickness to play 34 OLB, and possibly stongside?

I dont think he'd be a good LB at all.

bigbluedefense 10-04-2006 08:04 PM

Let him go. Nab Justin Tuck from us for cheap. That way you get great value and possibly a great DE on the come up.

Then you draft Tim Crowder in round 2. Save a ton of money, and quite possibly improve your End position at the same time.

Then nab Gregg from Baltimore to fill the NT spot. You nab cheap replacements that would get you overall better production.

Thats what I would do. With the money you save, you can address other needs. Youre set at LB, maybe a ballhawk FS can be in the works for round 1.

If all else fails, you can let go KGB and draft a stud in round 1.

Brodeur 10-04-2006 08:07 PM

Kalimba Edwards got 5/20 million for being a much worse version of KGB, he'll still get plenty of money in Free Agency.

Moses 10-05-2006 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense
Let him go. Nab Justin Tuck from us for cheap. That way you get great value and possibly a great DE on the come up.

Then you draft Tim Crowder in round 2. Save a ton of money, and quite possibly improve your End position at the same time.

Then nab Gregg from Baltimore to fill the NT spot. You nab cheap replacements that would get you overall better production.

Thats what I would do. With the money you save, you can address other needs. Youre set at LB, maybe a ballhawk FS can be in the works for round 1.

If all else fails, you can let go KGB and draft a stud in round 1.

The first round (and probably a lot of the 1st day) will be dedicated to offensive skill positions I think. Running back, wide receiver, and probably tight end are all going to be addressed early.

Nitschke-Hawk 10-05-2006 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense
Thats what I would do. With the money you save, you can address other needs. Youre set at LB, maybe a ballhawk FS can be in the works for round 1.

If all else fails, you can let go KGB and draft a stud in round 1.

Nick Collins is playing FS you wanna replace him already? no we need a stud SS. Or we could move Collins to corner but that would waste his hitting ability and athleticism to roam the whole field. He was the guy containing Reggie Bush when we played the Saints

Quote:

Originally Posted by art vandelay
KGB is inconsistent and overrated IMO. Kampman is a much better DE.

Yeah Kamp is one of the most complete DE's in the game. But I think on the right side you can sorta get away with what KGB does, he added muscle pounds in the offseason to help him and he is playing the run better, also based on our Yards Per Carry (rush defense) and Sack production from the D-Line, our D-Line is probably the strength of our team so far.

Nitschke-Hawk 10-05-2006 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moses
Quote:

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense
Let him go. Nab Justin Tuck from us for cheap. That way you get great value and possibly a great DE on the come up.

Then you draft Tim Crowder in round 2. Save a ton of money, and quite possibly improve your End position at the same time.

Then nab Gregg from Baltimore to fill the NT spot. You nab cheap replacements that would get you overall better production.

Thats what I would do. With the money you save, you can address other needs. Youre set at LB, maybe a ballhawk FS can be in the works for round 1.

If all else fails, you can let go KGB and draft a stud in round 1.

The first round (and probably a lot of the 1st day) will be dedicated to offensive skill positions I think. Running back, wide receiver, and probably tight end are all going to be addressed early.

Do you think we should use Bubba as primarily a blocking TE like Kyle Brady and also a Redzone threat for the rest of his time and draft a young athletic pass catcher? I think it would help Aaron out a lot because Bubba would take care of blitzers and the other guy will be there to catch passes. I know this is pretty much what we're doing right now (the blocking part) because teams wanna blitz against our inexperience, so essentially we're doing it cause we have to, but in the future kind of make it something we hang our hat on, using an extra blocker would allow us to use our RB out of the backfield more, since he wouldn't have to block as much.

bearsfan_51 10-05-2006 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nitschke-Hawk
Quote:

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense
Thats what I would do. With the money you save, you can address other needs. Youre set at LB, maybe a ballhawk FS can be in the works for round 1.

If all else fails, you can let go KGB and draft a stud in round 1.

Nick Collins is playing FS you wanna replace him already? no we need a stud SS. Or we could move Collins to corner but that would waste his hitting ability and athleticism to roam the whole field. He was the guy containing Reggie Bush when we played the Saints

Quote:

Originally Posted by art vandelay
KGB is inconsistent and overrated IMO. Kampman is a much better DE.

Yeah Kamp is one of the most complete DE's in the game. But I think on the right side you can sorta get away with what KGB does, he added muscle pounds in the offseason to help him and he is playing the run better, also based on our Yards Per Carry (rush defense) and Sack production from the D-Line, our D-Line is probably the strength of our team so far.

If by complete, you mean completely average, I agree.

bigbluedefense 10-05-2006 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nitschke-Hawk
Quote:

Originally Posted by Moses
Quote:

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense
Let him go. Nab Justin Tuck from us for cheap. That way you get great value and possibly a great DE on the come up.

Then you draft Tim Crowder in round 2. Save a ton of money, and quite possibly improve your End position at the same time.

Then nab Gregg from Baltimore to fill the NT spot. You nab cheap replacements that would get you overall better production.

Thats what I would do. With the money you save, you can address other needs. Youre set at LB, maybe a ballhawk FS can be in the works for round 1.

If all else fails, you can let go KGB and draft a stud in round 1.

The first round (and probably a lot of the 1st day) will be dedicated to offensive skill positions I think. Running back, wide receiver, and probably tight end are all going to be addressed early.

Do you think we should use Bubba as primarily a blocking TE like Kyle Brady and also a Redzone threat for the rest of his time and draft a young athletic pass catcher? I think it would help Aaron out a lot because Bubba would take care of blitzers and the other guy will be there to catch passes. I know this is pretty much what we're doing right now (the blocking part) because teams wanna blitz against our inexperience, so essentially we're doing it cause we have to, but in the future kind of make it something we hang our hat on, using an extra blocker would allow us to use our RB out of the backfield more, since he wouldn't have to block as much.

You guys play in the frozen tundra. I know historically GB has been known as an offensive team, but I think in that environment, they should build this team with defense and a run game. I think you let KGB go, let Favre retire, cut Green, and build around defense and the run game.

Try to steal Tuck from us, nabb Gregg to man the NT spot, draft Tim Crowder in Round 2, draft Michael Bush/Adrian Peterson in round 1, nab a OG in round 3, nab a SS round 4, a WR round 5, and you'll be going in the right direction.

TitleTown088 10-05-2006 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nitschke-Hawk
Quote:

Originally Posted by Moses
Quote:

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense
Let him go. Nab Justin Tuck from us for cheap. That way you get great value and possibly a great DE on the come up.

Then you draft Tim Crowder in round 2. Save a ton of money, and quite possibly improve your End position at the same time.

Then nab Gregg from Baltimore to fill the NT spot. You nab cheap replacements that would get you overall better production.

Thats what I would do. With the money you save, you can address other needs. Youre set at LB, maybe a ballhawk FS can be in the works for round 1.

If all else fails, you can let go KGB and draft a stud in round 1.

The first round (and probably a lot of the 1st day) will be dedicated to offensive skill positions I think. Running back, wide receiver, and probably tight end are all going to be addressed early.

Do you think we should use Bubba as primarily a blocking TE like Kyle Brady and also a Redzone threat for the rest of his time and draft a young athletic pass catcher? I think it would help Aaron out a lot because Bubba would take care of blitzers and the other guy will be there to catch passes. I know this is pretty much what we're doing right now (the blocking part) because teams wanna blitz against our inexperience, so essentially we're doing it cause we have to, but in the future kind of make it something we hang our hat on, using an extra blocker would allow us to use our RB out of the backfield more, since he wouldn't have to block as much.

You guys play in the frozen tundra. I know historically GB has been known as an offensive team, but I think in that environment, they should build this team with defense and a run game. I think you let KGB go, let Favre retire, cut Green, and build around defense and the run game.

Try to steal Tuck from us, nabb Gregg to man the NT spot, draft Tim Crowder in Round 2, draft Michael Bush/Adrian Peterson in round 1, nab a OG in round 3, nab a SS round 4, a WR round 5, and you'll be going in the right direction.

Thats exactly what i am thinking too. I dont know if we'll be able to get peterson though.

Vince Lombardi 10-05-2006 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense
You guys play in the frozen tundra. I know historically GB has been known as an offensive team, but I think in that environment, they should build this team with defense and a run game. I think you let KGB go, let Favre retire, cut Green, and build around defense and the run game.

I agree. That's why I wanted them to sign Jim Bates or atleast a different defensive minded coach. :?

bearsfan_51 10-05-2006 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vince Lombardi
Quote:

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense
You guys play in the frozen tundra. I know historically GB has been known as an offensive team, but I think in that environment, they should build this team with defense and a run game. I think you let KGB go, let Favre retire, cut Green, and build around defense and the run game.

I agree. That's why I wanted them to sign Jim Bates or atleast a different defensive minded coach. :?

Ron Rivera

portermvp84 10-05-2006 01:54 PM

they'll keep him besides there linebacaking core thats all they got.


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