NFC South Standings after this week

iloxygenil · 11-14-2007, 01:47 PM

Tampa Bay: 5-5
New Orleans: 5-5
Atlanta Falcons 4-6
Carolina Panthers 4-6

Wow...this division is going to be a LOT of fun to watch the rest of the way.

That's my prediction of how it ends up...may even be more fun if the Panthers can knock off the Packers...and make 3 teams at 5-5 and the Falcons still climbing at 4-6. Houston can cause a lot of problems for New Orleans, simply because their front 7 getting pressure on Brees. But their offense is capable of making the New Orleans Saint's defense looking like world beaters...

Beans · 11-14-2007, 02:42 PM

Uh

Bucs are 5-4
Saints and Panthers are 4-5
Falcons are 3-6 (I think)

iloxygenil · 11-14-2007, 03:59 PM

Might want to READ what it says...and I quote "That's my prediction..."

BucSappy · 11-14-2007, 04:17 PM

Atlanta is not going to beat Tampa.

First of all, Atlanta doesn't have a defense.
Secondly, we have one of the best pass defenses in the NFL, 6th best scoring defense.
Thirdly, Byron Leftwich is your starting QB.
Fourth, your offenisve line blows, ours is awesome and I will go nuts if Davin Joseph isn't a pro bowler.

Only thing working in Atlanta's favor is that they are at home, but I expect Tampa to dominate in the running game in this matchup, both offensively and defensively.

Tampa: 6-4
N'Oleans: 4-6
Cawolina: 4-6
A-Town: 3-7

iloxygenil · 11-14-2007, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BucSappy

Atlanta is not going to beat Tampa.

First of all, Atlanta doesn't have a defense.
Secondly, we have one of the best pass defenses in the NFL, 6th best scoring defense.
Thirdly, Byron Leftwich is your starting QB.
Fourth, your offenisve line blows, ours is awesome and I will go nuts if Davin Joseph isn't a pro bowler.

Only thing working in Atlanta's favor is that they are at home, but I expect Tampa to dominate in the running game in this matchup, both offensively and defensively.

First of all, Atlanta leads the NFC in turnover differential (hrmm...wonder who gets those turnovers?) Atlanta's defense allowed 11 points average in the last 2 games, against offenses that aren't missing their only REAL running back.

Secondly, your pass defense is no better than those we've faced to this point in the season and you're not going to stop the high percentage passes we've been throwing all season.

Thirdly, Joey Harrington is our starting QB as of right now...

Fourth, Your pass rush is lackluster at best...you have no Pro Bowl DEs coming after QBs...we have John Abraham...we have Rod Coleman. Our offensive line the has been coming together, and Blalock is locking in, now that Weiner is healthy you can count 1 of your DEs as not being on the field.

Fifth...the Falcons are at home, a place that even though they haven't been great overall have done pretty well in.

Sixth...Warrick Dunn is going to break the 10k yard mark against the team that drafted him. We're sticking with the run and being successful the last 2 weeks.

Seventh...Our corners can boast that even with a lackluster corps last season that your BIG threat receiver had what 1 catch against us last SEASON? Yeah...Joey may as well fake an injury. Outside of that Houston stepped up and is seeing the game slow down for him so your passing attack won't be getting any big plays. Garcia makes good reads and we won't be getting a lot of turnovers from INTs, but you won't either.

This is going to be a fun game to watch, especially with people like you out there who think your team has no holes, when it's full of them. Especially with some of the injuries you guys are facing. We have had trouble there as well losing 2 tackles for the season.

I'm feeling a sig bet coming on...

Chucky · 11-14-2007, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by iloxygenil

First of all, Atlanta leads the NFC in turnover differential (hrmm...wonder who gets those turnovers?) Atlanta's defense allowed 11 points average in the last 2 games, against offenses that aren't missing their only REAL running back.

Secondly, your pass defense is no better than those we've faced to this point in the season and you're not going to stop the high percentage passes we've been throwing all season.

Thirdly, Joey Harrington is our starting QB as of right now...

Fourth, Your pass rush is lackluster at best...you have no Pro Bowl DEs coming after QBs...we have John Abraham...we have Rod Coleman. Our offensive line the has been coming together, and Blalock is locking in, now that Weiner is healthy you can count 1 of your DEs as not being on the field.

Fifth...the Falcons are at home, a place that even though they haven't been great overall have done pretty well in.

Sixth...Warrick Dunn is going to break the 10k yard mark against the team that drafted him. We're sticking with the run and being successful the last 2 weeks.

Seventh...Our corners can boast that even with a lackluster corps last season that your BIG threat receiver had what 1 catch against us last SEASON? Yeah...Joey may as well fake an injury. Outside of that Houston stepped up and is seeing the game slow down for him so your passing attack won't be getting any big plays. Garcia makes good reads and we won't be getting a lot of turnovers from INTs, but you won't either.

This is going to be a fun game to watch, especially with people like you out there who think your team has no holes, when it's full of them. Especially with some of the injuries you guys are facing. We have had trouble there as well losing 2 tackles for the season.

I'm feeling a sig bet coming on...

I will gladly make a sig bet. You shouldnt base how good your team is, by how they played against awful teams

Caddy · 11-14-2007, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by iloxygenil

Secondly, your pass defense is no better than those we've faced to this point in the season and you're not going to stop the high percentage passes we've been throwing all season.

Wrong. Considering the Buc's have the #3 pass defense in the league, and you haven't played the Colts or Steelers, this is the best pass defense you have faced so far.

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Thirdly, Joey Harrington is our starting QB as of right now...

Does it really matter who is at QB??

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Fourth, Your pass rush is lackluster at best...you have no Pro Bowl DEs coming after QBs...we have John Abraham...we have Rod Coleman. Our offensive line the has been coming together, and Blalock is locking in, now that Weiner is healthy you can count 1 of your DEs as not being on the field.

You have a decent Defensive line, no doubt about it, but the Buccaneers pass rush has not been 'lackluster at best'. It may have started the year relatively poorly, but it has improved week by week. Combine that with a great pass defense and the only way teams can beat the buc's is by running it straight down our throats; which is coincidentally probably the Falcons best chance of winning. It is the Buccaneers rush defense, not the pass defense, which the the Defensive Lines Achilles Heel.

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Fifth...the Falcons are at home, a place that even though they haven't been great overall have done pretty well in.

If you call .500 at home "pretty well".

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Sixth...Warrick Dunn is going to break the 10k yard mark against the team that drafted him. We're sticking with the run and being successful the last 2 weeks.

Warrick Dunn's 3.3 YPC average is really going to hurt the Bucs. Even the Buc's who are missing their "REAL" RB have Earnest Graham rushing for 3.9 YPC, which is .6 more than Warrick Dunn. But maybe Jerious Norwood will have a better chance at rushing the ball. It's beyond me why he isn't getting more carries other than the fact that he isn't the greatest pass blocker.

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Seventh...Our corners can boast that even with a lackluster corps last season that your BIG threat receiver had what 1 catch against us last SEASON? Yeah...Joey may as well fake an injury. Outside of that Houston stepped up and is seeing the game slow down for him so your passing attack won't be getting any big plays. Garcia makes good reads and we won't be getting a lot of turnovers from INTs, but you won't either.

Your arguments are relatively flawed. "Joey may as well fake an injury"?? What is that? You may have shut him down in previous years but Bruce Gradkowski/Chris Simms/Tim Rattay aren't our QB's this year.

dbtb135 · 11-14-2007, 10:43 PM

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First of all, Atlanta leads the NFC in turnover differential (hrmm...wonder who gets those turnovers?) Atlanta's defense allowed 11 points average in the last 2 games, against offenses that aren't missing their only REAL running back.

Only REAL runningback? Caddy averaged 54 yards a game, Graham is averaging 52. 74 since becoming the starting back, which is better than Caddy was posting. And Graham can catch the ball. But I guess since you don't know of him, he's not playing well right now......

Oh, and our defense is #4 in the NFL in scoring defense for the ENTIRE season. But your little two game run is nice, I guess. :D

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Secondly, your pass defense is no better than those we've faced to this point in the season and you're not going to stop the high percentage passes we've been throwing all season.

Yeah, you're not kidding. As shown by the 0 TDs and 3 INTs the Falcons have to show against other top 10 pass defenses. And the 46% (so high!) completion percentage. And the 162 pass yards a game. Hehe...

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Thirdly, Joey Harrington is our starting QB as of right now...

No, but if he were, I'd try to keep that a secret.

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Fourth, Your pass rush is lackluster at best...you have no Pro Bowl DEs coming after QBs...we have John Abraham...we have Rod Coleman. Our offensive line the has been coming together, and Blalock is locking in, now that Weiner is healthy you can count 1 of your DEs as not being on the field.

We've done without a great pass rush with great coverage behind it. And unfortunately Justin Blalock isn't going to help you much with Barrett Ruud, Cato June, P-Buc, Tanard Jackson, etc dropping back.

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Fifth...the Falcons are at home, a place that even though they haven't been great overall have done pretty well in.

Only because you barely squeaked out a win against the worst team in the NFC without their only source of offense.

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Sixth...Warrick Dunn is going to break the 10k yard mark against the team that drafted him. We're sticking with the run and being successful the last 2 weeks.

One dimensional against a top 5 defense, good strategy.

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Seventh...Our corners can boast that even with a lackluster corps last season that your BIG threat receiver had what 1 catch against us last SEASON? Yeah...Joey may as well fake an injury. Outside of that Houston stepped up and is seeing the game slow down for him so your passing attack won't be getting any big plays. Garcia makes good reads and we won't be getting a lot of turnovers from INTs, but you won't either.

You can blame that on Bruce Bruce and his terrible accuracy deep. Worst deep ball in the NFL. With Garcia, not only is Galloway doing better, but he's got a partner in crime in the reliable Ike Hilliard (who is obliterating any #2 option in ATL in production).

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Originally Posted by iloxygenil

This is going to be a fun game to watch, especially with people like you out there who think your team has no holes, when it's full of them. Especially with some of the injuries you guys are facing. We have had trouble there as well losing 2 tackles for the season.

Our team has holes. John Wade sucks, our TEs are inconsistent, our play calling is suspect, our pass rush is lacking, and our special teams are shaky at times. But at the same time, Atlanta has even more holes. But thats to be expected without your starting QB, and under a 1st year coach.

BucSappy · 11-21-2007, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by iloxygenil

First of all, Atlanta leads the NFC in turnover differential (hrmm...wonder who gets those turnovers?) Atlanta's defense allowed 11 points average in the last 2 games, against offenses that aren't missing their only REAL running back.

Atlanta Turnovers: 4
Buc Turnovers: 2

Your response?

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Secondly, your pass defense is no better than those we've faced to this point in the season and you're not going to stop the high percentage passes we've been throwing all season.

Byron Leftwich: 15/28, 106 (3.8 average...yay), 2 interceptions

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Thirdly, Joey Harrington is our starting QB as of right now

Good call, again.

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Fourth, Your pass rush is lackluster at best...you have no Pro Bowl DEs coming after QBs...we have John Abraham...we have Rod Coleman. Our offensive line the has been coming together, and Blalock is locking in, now that Weiner is healthy you can count 1 of your DEs as not being on the field.

4 sacks. Who is that Weiner guy again?

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Fifth...the Falcons are at home, a place that even though they haven't been great overall have done pretty well in.

31-0 with 1:30 left in the game. Good call.

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Sixth...Warrick Dunn is going to break the 10k yard mark against the team that drafted him. We're sticking with the run and being successful the last 2 weeks.

Warrick Dunn: 15 carries, 32 yards, 2.1 average, longest run was 6 yards.

9974 career rushing yards. Again, this iloxyhomer guy really knows his defenses.

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Seventh...Our corners can boast that even with a lackluster corps last season that your BIG threat receiver had what 1 catch against us last SEASON? Yeah...Joey may as well fake an injury. Outside of that Houston stepped up and is seeing the game slow down for him so your passing attack won't be getting any big plays. Garcia makes good reads and we won't be getting a lot of turnovers from INTs, but you won't either.

Joey Galloway: 2 catches for 63 yards, including the first score of the game. No big plays?

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This is going to be a fun game to watch, especially with people like you out there who think your team has no holes, when it's full of them

What was that? Something about accusing of people of thinking their team is the most awesomeness? 31-7. Be quiet. We own this division. Eat it. Love it. Digest it and make sure you feel it go down your tum tum tummy.

Watchman · 11-15-2007, 06:46 PM

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I will go nuts if Davin Joseph isn't a pro bowler.

Of all your homer statements this is the most homeristic of them all. Joseph has been average this year, dissappointing actually. I expected to improve a lot in his second year and he's struggled at times. Sears has been the better guard so far.

thefalconer · 11-18-2007, 02:26 PM

i'm gonna swallow my pride, we kinda suck.

thefalconer · 11-14-2007, 05:08 PM

you shouldnt either, with how the bucs did against the cards.

BucSappy · 11-15-2007, 07:34 PM

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you shouldnt either, with how the bucs did against the cards.

LOL, the Cards aren't a bad team. They aren't great but they are above average.

Carolina on the other hand...

iloxygenil · 11-14-2007, 05:10 PM

Alright, sig bet, whoever wants in on this lets set parameters. I'm up for whatever...wear the opposing team's sig (designer's choice) until the next matchup...

Flyboy · 11-14-2007, 06:06 PM

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Thirdly, Joey Harrington is our starting QB as of right now...

Leftwich will be starting.

iloxygenil · 11-14-2007, 09:08 PM

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Leftwich will be starting.

This isn't known yet. Simply because we don't know how his ankle is going to hold up throughout practice. If he's going to be out there, WOOHOOO...then we can open up Roddy and Laurent to run beyond your pathetic Cover2 corners who couldn't run with them with sprained ankles.

etk · 11-15-2007, 10:05 PM

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This isn't known yet. Simply because we don't know how his ankle is going to hold up throughout practice. If he's going to be out there, WOOHOOO...then we can open up Roddy and Laurent to run beyond your pathetic Cover2 corners who couldn't run with them with sprained ankles.

I really admire your ignorance. First of all, "Roddy and Laurent" are horrible. Never in my life would I fear either of them, not in my wildest dreams. Second of all, and most importantly, our "pathetic Cover 2 corners" are exactly how you described them...Cover 2 corners. They don't run with receivers as they play the flats in zone coverage with safety help over top. You are sadly mistaken if you think Roddy & Laurent are gonna burn Tanard Jackson or Jermaine Phillips deep. Our pass defense has been dominant all year because we force teams to throw short underneath passes. Even the mighty Indianapolis Colts, led by Peyton Manning, couldn't throw deep on our defense. When he tried to air it out, Tanard either picked him off or laid a huge hit. Even if I threw our whole defensive scheme out the window and went with man-to-man coverage on Roddy & Laurent, they still wouldn't find room to breathe. Ronde Barber would press one of them into the bleachers, while Phillip Buchanon is one of the fastest players in the league and would outrun the receiver to the ball. Harrington will be forced to throw short passes against our defense, and chances are we will pick off a few since that's what good 'ol Joey is known for.

Caddy · 11-16-2007, 03:52 AM

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I really admire your ignorance. First of all, "Roddy and Laurent" are horrible. Never in my life would I fear either of them, not in my wildest dreams. Second of all, and most importantly, our "pathetic Cover 2 corners" are exactly how you described them...Cover 2 corners. They don't run with receivers as they play the flats in zone coverage with safety help over top. You are sadly mistaken if you think Roddy & Laurent are gonna burn Tanard Jackson or Jermaine Phillips deep. Our pass defense has been dominant all year because we force teams to throw short underneath passes. Even the mighty Indianapolis Colts, led by Peyton Manning, couldn't throw deep on our defense. When he tried to air it out, Tanard either picked him off or laid a huge hit. Even if I threw our whole defensive scheme out the window and went with man-to-man coverage on Roddy & Laurent, they still wouldn't find room to breathe. Ronde Barber would press one of them into the bleachers, while Phillip Buchanon is one of the fastest players in the league and would outrun the receiver to the ball. Harrington will be forced to throw short passes against our defense, and chances are we will pick off a few since that's what good 'ol Joey is known for.

ATLDirtyBirds · 11-17-2007, 03:38 PM

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I really admire your ignorance. First of all, "Roddy and Laurent" are horrible. Never in my life would I fear either of them, not in my wildest dreams. Second of all, and most importantly, our "pathetic Cover 2 corners" are exactly how you described them...Cover 2 corners. They don't run with receivers as they play the flats in zone coverage with safety help over top. You are sadly mistaken if you think Roddy & Laurent are gonna burn Tanard Jackson or Jermaine Phillips deep. Our pass defense has been dominant all year because we force teams to throw short underneath passes. Even the mighty Indianapolis Colts, led by Peyton Manning, couldn't throw deep on our defense. When he tried to air it out, Tanard either picked him off or laid a huge hit. Even if I threw our whole defensive scheme out the window and went with man-to-man coverage on Roddy & Laurent, they still wouldn't find room to breathe. Ronde Barber would press one of them into the bleachers, while Phillip Buchanon is one of the fastest players in the league and would outrun the receiver to the ball. Harrington will be forced to throw short passes against our defense, and chances are we will pick off a few since that's what good 'ol Joey is known for.

So your not scared of a guy who is putting up good stats with Joey Harrington at QB, but we should fear Tanard "World-Beater" Jackson? An you said iloxy is ignorant...

Caddy · 11-14-2007, 07:02 PM

LOL this is hilarious. Atlanta might be at home, but provided Jeff Garcia plays and has minimal errors, the Buccaneers will come out with the win.

d34ng3l021 · 11-14-2007, 07:59 PM

Let me in on this sig bet.

diabsoule · 11-14-2007, 08:07 PM

I don't want to bet anything on the Saints. I have no idea which team will show up week in and week out.

iloxygenil · 11-14-2007, 09:13 PM

One of you says #3 one says #6...guess what, doesn't matter...we don't throw for a lot of yards to win.

Caddy · 11-14-2007, 09:53 PM

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One of you says #3 one says #6...guess what, doesn't matter...we don't throw for a lot of yards to win.

You don't win a lot either :D

iloxygenil · 11-14-2007, 10:10 PM

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You don't win a lot either :D

Oh yeah...I forgot you guys are tearing the world up right now with your 9-0 record...