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Default Lions and Broncos Tade: Dre Bly for Tatum Bell and Geroge Foster

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Default Broncos aquire Dre Bly

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How is Foster? I don't know much about him. We got our KJ insurance though.
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How is Foster? I don't know much about him. We got our KJ insurance though.
Yea, I guess the speculation of the lions drafting a RB can stop now.
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damn i really didnt see them going through with this
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brilliant trade. i had no interest in giving up a draft pick, but i'm happy to get rid of those two guys for decent CB depth. also looks like foxy will stick at safety.

foster is probably slightly less worhtless than whoever played RT for you last year. he's still got a lot of potential, he just never played well.
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I hate the NFC North: last year they give the Broncos Javon Walker, now Dre Bly.

The Denver Broncos are hard enough to face as an AFC opponent as it is.
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brilliant trade. i had no interest in giving up a draft pick, but i'm happy to get rid of those two guys for decent CB depth. also looks like foxy will stick at safety.

foster is probably slightly less worhtless than whoever played RT for you last year. he's still got a lot of potential, he just never played well.
yeah if your keeping foxworth at saftey primarily then Bly gives you some good options. foster was worth giving up.

i think that detroit got the better end of the deal, but denver didnt care for those two guys that much.

i wonder what denver will do for a new RB w/ mike bell?
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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

I love Matt Millen! lol

I just started a thread earlier today in the Lions forum hoping for this exact trade to happen.

Detroit should take CJ at 2 now that they filled their OT and RB needs. lol
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I love Matt Millen! lol

I just started a thread earlier today in the Lions forum hoping for this exact trade to happen.

Detroit should take CJ at 2 now that they filled their OT and RB needs. lol
would detroit take another wr again?
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So what kind of combination of drugs does it take to get fleeced by Matt Millen in a trade? hahahaha.
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So what kind of combination of drugs does it take to get fleeced by Matt Millen in a trade? hahahaha.
you think denver ended up on the bad end? how, exactly?
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you think denver ended up on the bad end? how, exactly?
well bell is a pretty good back and a starter. he is really just for insurace but can be a really productive 2nd back. foster was a starter for a good while and is an inprovement probable over what detroit has

dre bly just didnt seem to fit in with detroit any more now that they are a cover 2.

both teams i think gained something from this trade, but in overall value i think bell and foster are worth more than just bly
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i'm assuming you're not serious, xio..
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i'm assuming you're not serious, xio..
Half serious. But it looks like we are a lock to sign Kevin Curtis so I know it won't happen.

I just think you take the best player available, and now that we have no need for Joe Thomas, it's difficult to say which player we will take at #2. I still adamently believe they won't take a QB.

Who does that leave? Gaines Adams? Trade Down? That's about it.
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Seriously, I think it works out well for both teams. Bly wasn't coming back to Detroit, and Bell wasn't happy in Denver. Foster was a throw-in for value, but he was replacable for the Broncos. Foster at RT means the Lions can focus on a stronger skill position player at #2 overall. Joe Thomas likely is not going to Detroit now. Bell is good KJones insurance, but the Lions should consider a 4th round (give or take) RB.

Am I crazy to think that the Lions now dangle the #2 pick to Arizona (Joe Thomas) for a bunch of picks, then try to get a guy like Chris Houston or Leon Hall in Round 1?
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Seriously, I think it works out well for both teams. Bly wasn't coming back to Detroit, and Bell wasn't happy in Denver. Foster was a throw-in for value, but he was replacable for the Broncos. Foster at RT means the Lions can focus on a stronger skill position player at #2 overall. Joe Thomas likely is not going to Detroit now. Bell is good KJones insurance, but the Lions should consider a 4th round (give or take) RB.

Am I crazy to think that the Lions now dangle the #2 pick to Arizona (Joe Thomas) for a bunch of picks, then try to get a guy like Chris Houston or Leon Hall in Round 1?
With the 5th overall pick?
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Seriously, I think it works out well for both teams. Bly wasn't coming back to Detroit, and Bell wasn't happy in Denver. Foster was a throw-in for value, but he was replacable for the Broncos. Foster at RT means the Lions can focus on a stronger skill position player at #2 overall. Joe Thomas likely is not going to Detroit now. Bell is good KJones insurance, but the Lions should consider a 4th round (give or take) RB.

Am I crazy to think that the Lions now dangle the #2 pick to Arizona (Joe Thomas) for a bunch of picks, then try to get a guy like Chris Houston or Leon Hall in Round 1?
Problem is that we aren't gonna take Thomas now and Arizona knows that. Now that it appears that Thomas will fall to Cleveland though, Arizona might become a bit more desperate. It's a strange scenario.

Detroit would love to take Adams/Anderson, but I am not sure they'd do it without a trade down.
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Problem is that we aren't gonna take Thomas now and Arizona knows that. Now that it appears that Thomas will fall to Cleveland though, Arizona might become a bit more desperate. It's a strange scenario.

Detroit would love to take Adams/Anderson, but I am not sure they'd do it without a trade down.
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Good trade, now all speculatin of having him (Bly) come to N.O. can end.
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That's exactly what I'm afraid of. :(
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um... is it just me or did Detroit not just get ripped off ?

Tatum Bell didn't even look that good in Denver... Hell, Olandis Gary looked good in Denver. Same with countless other RB's. Tatum Bell is gonna look terrible in Detroit, and George Foster? Big deal!

Dre Bly was the Lions best defensive player... Denver got a GREAT deal.

Detroit now has the worst secondary in the league.. nice job.
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um... is it just me or did Detroit not just get ripped off ?

Tatum Bell didn't even look that good in Denver... Hell, Olandis Gary looked good in Denver. Same with countless other RB's. Tatum Bell is gonna look terrible in Detroit, and George Foster? Big deal!

Dre Bly was the Lions best defensive player... Denver got a GREAT deal.

Detroit now has the worst secondary in the league.. nice job.
Detroit wan't ripped off at all. Bly was gonna get RELEASED today if we didn't trade him. We would have gotten nothing in return for him.

Detroit has so much more flexibility in the draft now. They don't have to take Thomas at 2. They don't need to worry about Kevin Jones' recovery so much.

Great trade on both ends.
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um... is it just me or did Detroit not just get ripped off ?

Tatum Bell didn't even look that good in Denver... Hell, Olandis Gary looked good in Denver. Same with countless other RB's. Tatum Bell is gonna look terrible in Detroit, and George Foster? Big deal!

Dre Bly was the Lions best defensive player... Denver got a GREAT deal.

Detroit now has the worst secondary in the league.. nice job.
I think it's just you, actually. Bly wanted out of Detroit, and Detroit wanted Bly out. He did not have a good season, and his trade value was at its highest right now. Bly wasn't going to be with the team, so they made moves to solidify some things before the draft.

Tatum Bell is a pretty good RB with break-away speed. He showed he can do well in spurts last season. He can also catch passes out of the backfield. Detroit got a RB they can live with until KJones recovers. This removes an immediate draft need for the time being.

George Foster is a good, but not great, RT. He has an affordable contract and can run and pass block well. He solidifies the Lions OLine for the time being.

So, for a player who wanted out and wasn't going to make a huge impact for their team, the Lions filled some holes and also pared some salary off their cap. They can now take the BPA with their pick or move down. I think the Lions got the better end of it. The Broncos did well, but they gave up 2 contributors for 1 better player. I think the Lions are better now than they were before. The Broncos have a few questions going into the draft.
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