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Old 09-30-2008, 04:11 PM    (permalink
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Default Ryan Grant a fluke?

I compare him to Julius Jones, another ND RB who had a hot start then fizzled as fast as he rose. But I can't really compare him to Julius now that Julius is in a better situation and doing well than compared to what he was in Dallas.

So I say... who are the believers and who are the doubters? and who is right out of the 2?
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Once you venture outside of AD, LT, MBIII, etc, it becomes stale.

A RB is a RB is a RB.

Grant is no different.

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Once you venture outside of AD, LT, MBIII, etc, it becomes stale.

A RB is a RB is a RB.

Grant is no different.
There are a lot more runningbacks that aren't "stale"
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There are a lot more runningbacks that aren't "stale"
A RB is a RB is a RB.

Dime a dozen. Not stale but nothing to write home about.
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A RB is a RB is a RB.

Dime a dozen. Not stale but nothing to write home about.
Are you saying that other than the three you listed, LT, Peterson and Barber, the rest are dime a dozen?

Because there are quite a few that I don't consider dime a dozen.
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Are you saying that other than the three you listed, LT, Peterson and Barber, the rest are dime a dozen?

Because there are quite a few that I don't consider dime a dozen.
Wow, you people need to use a little common sense before trying to attack a person's posts. He obviously didn't mean those were the only ones worth anything, cause he said "etcetera". Geezus, context clues people.
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Are you saying that other than the three you listed, LT, Peterson and Barber, the rest are dime a dozen?

Because there are quite a few that I don't consider dime a dozen.
Why? Steven Jacksons and Brian Westbrooks come along every year.
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Not a fluke, way to overreact. It's only a quarter of the way into the season, Grant is going to get going and soon at that.

LOL, if it wasn't for the Packers cautiously trying to ease him in, he would have put a consecutive hundy on the Vikings defense. Give me a break.
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I would just like to say I told you to give him time... the last 3 weeks he has really picked it up. They weren't suck *** run defenses either... Titans (4.3 Avg), Vikings (4.7 Avg), Bears (5.8 Avg)
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Once you venture outside of AD, LT, MBIII, etc, it becomes stale.

A RB is a RB is a RB.

Grant is no different.
Are you seriously naming barber the third running back in the league? r u kidding me
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Are you seriously naming barber the third running back in the league? r u kidding me
Yep, I'm doing that.

I just listed a few backs that I consider elite.

For future reference. Using the word "seriously" in the same post as "r u", isn't a winning formula.
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Ryan Grant was absolutely a fluke. he has nothing going for him now.
no burst, no vision, as he pretty much looks for people to tackle him. he goes down easy...but, at least he fumbles a lot.

i'm calling RB as the Packers' #1 need this off season.
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Wow a little over the top there.... Grant has been plagued by a hammy and well we all know those heal overnight they can continue to nag throughout an entire season... Grant is suppose to be close to 100% but he says he isnt their yet. So hes fumbled twice, we have seen that not taking many hits early in the year can cause this. Our O-line has been in a constant shuffle and they havent had anytime together. Now that they do things should improve and if they dont I will then be worried. At this moment I am concerned but Im also not going to overeact. Part of the blame has to be put on Grant because yes we have seen him miss some holes, but I would also blame the o-line as well. I think they have been a bit overated and at times arent opening anything up.

Do I think he is an AD or LT .... No way but I do think he can be a good back
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Only because he's on my fantasy team.
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I think everyone outside of Green Bay knew that he was a definite fluke...

I still think he can be a decent RB, he will never be as successful as he was last year, imo.
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I got flamed by Packer fans for saying it before but I have no doubt he is a fluke. I don't think he is as terrible as he is playing now but he is a below average starting RB and for that matter he would probably only be an average backup RB.
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I never bought into him, although I don't think I ever said so on this sight. It always seemed he would have one long run that made his numbers look a lot better than what they would have.
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I think its very possible but I'd like to see a little more than just four games. I might get flamed for saying that (who am I kidding, I will) but I think more than one game with a complete starting offensive line will show us how good he is, no matter what the results are. Really though, no one knows for sure how he's going to turn out this year, its only four games so far (not to mention that he was way behind because of holding out and his hamstring) just like it was only 10 games last year that he played in significantly. So as of now, Grant is a mystery, but my gut is still telling me to be prepared to be underwhelmed.
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I don't think anyone thought he was anything special...I for sure didn't, since I wanted Felix. But, he has been bother by injuries from the start of TC.
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He hasn't had much running room. I expected a lot more out of him. It looks like he's running without inspiration this year. He's fast but this year that just helps him run into a defender quicker.
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He was running for a contract last year. Not so much anymore.
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Eh, that may be part of it, but I don't think that would account for all of it. I think a lot of this is on Grant.

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I don't think that that is the case as much as most would believe. Yeah, I doubt he is running with the same passion because he did in fact get paid pretty well, but a great majority of the contract is incentive based. If he's fine with the $4.25 million that he is guaranteed then he probably is slacking, but he still could stand to earn a lot more.
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I thought it said 'flake'

I was going to agree.
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people of all genders to hang out and discuss their
favorite nerd past-times without needing to worry about or
deal with the prejudice and mistreatment that's so common online.


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