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Old 11-09-2008, 06:43 PM    (permalink
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Default Tyler Thigpen- Is he forreal?

@ NYJ- 25/36 69.4% 280 pass yds 2 TD's 0 INT's
vs. TB- 14/25 56% 164 yds 1 TD O INT's (1 rec TD)
@SD- 27/41 65% 255 pass yds 3 TD's O INT's
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Old 11-09-2008, 06:45 PM    (permalink
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I think he is a very capable quarterback, and at this moment I dont think he is the answer.

I wrote this in another thread:
I think if Stafford(dpending on who declares)is gone you go in a different direction. Next year the Chiefs will have Quinn Gray, Damon Huard, Brodie Croyle and Thigpen on the roster so I think you keep the best of them and still rebuild the rest of the team. Fill some more holes and see if you get any progress out of the QB position.


If Tyler has these types of performances (the ones you posted) another 5-6 weeks then the Chiefs can sacrifice not drafting a qb esp if one is not their at their pick in the 1st round. I used the wrong theres, there.
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Old 11-09-2008, 06:48 PM    (permalink
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The analyst said that Thigpen reminds him of Rich Gannon and I see that alot the more Tyler plays.
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Old 11-09-2008, 06:54 PM    (permalink
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I like Thigpen. I'm officially on the bandwagon. He's playing well, he isn't turning the ball over, and every week he's getting better and better.

If he plays this well down the stretch, and we're competitive in every game like we have been the past three weeks, I could see us skipping QB all together and drafting OL, DL or MLB.
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lol at only Chief's fans commenting in this thread. Seems like no one else cares.

I sure do hope he is forreal, so the Chiefs won't draft a QB high this upcoming draft.
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Send Stafford to Houston.
Why wouldnt the Lions take him at #1? Not to mention that with all the money invested in Schaub, I dont think they would even consider a QB.
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Why wouldnt the Lions take him at #1? Not to mention that with all the money invested in Schaub, I dont think they would even consider a QB.
****, forgot about the Lions. We still got competition.

Schaub is injury-prone, doesn't look like it'll change after two season. I, and other Texans fans, have given up on this unreliable QB. I hope to draft a good prospect at QB, and start Schaub as the QB develop, just incase Schaub does turn out to be a bust. It still might be too early to tell.

I would hope the situation turns out to be like what the Charger had with Brees/Rivers, instead of like the Browns with Anderson/Quinn.... so we can get some value in return to whom ever we trade. I just don't think we can trust either Sage/Schaub anymore, until proven otherwise.
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****, forgot about the Lions. We still got competition.

Schaub is injury-prone, doesn't look like it'll change after two season. I, and other Texans fans, have given up on this unreliable QB. I hope to draft a good prospect at QB, and start Schaub as the QB develop, just incase Schaub does turn out to be a bust. It still might be too early to tell.

I would hope the situation turns out to be like what the Charger had with Brees/Rivers, instead of like the Browns with Anderson/Quinn.... so we can get some value in return to whom ever we trade. I just don't think we can trust either Sage/Schaub anymore, until proven otherwise.
No matter how injury prone Schaub has seemed right now, you don't sacrifice two first round picks and a big contract, just to draft a guy in the first round two years later. If next year he doesn't amount to anything, then you go to the draft pool.
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I enjoy watching Tyler Thigpen play. There is not enough information to know whether or not Thigpen could be a long term answer.
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The Chiefs still need to take a quarterback in the first round if the opportunity is there. Luckily for Thigpen though, it seems unlikely that any underclassmen other than Stafford declare and quarterback is the Lions greatest need, so it might be a moot point.

Its been three games, and yeah, Thigpen has played admirably in the games, the Jets game impressed me the most. I only caught the last 54 seconds of this game and only watched the end of their game against the Bucs. His stat line is impressive, but still... three games.

The one thing I do have to say. The Chiefs should NOT under and circumstances spend a draft pick on a quarterback if they don't have a shot at a first round underclassmen. Creating a quarterback controversy with a couple young potential filled guys will kill the Chiefs development because they'll decide to wait to find out about their current quarterbacks instead of taking a top prospect when they are there for the taking.

If I were a Chiefs fan, the way I'd want things to play out would be to take Orakpo in the first round with Stafford already off the board and go BPA all day long just like they did last year while avoiding selecting a quarterback. Dump Johnson for the best offer they can find also. His contract is dead weight at this point unfortunately.
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Don't the Chiefs need offensive line very badly?
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The right side of our line is complete trash, but you don't take RG/RT with a top 5 pick. Hopefully we have our LT of the future in Albert.
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The Chiefs still need to take a quarterback in the first round if the opportunity is there. Luckily for Thigpen though, it seems unlikely that any underclassmen other than Stafford declare and quarterback is the Lions greatest need, so it might be a moot point.

Its been three games, and yeah, Thigpen has played admirably in the games, the Jets game impressed me the most. I only caught the last 54 seconds of this game and only watched the end of their game against the Bucs. His stat line is impressive, but still... three games.

The one thing I do have to say. The Chiefs should NOT under and circumstances spend a draft pick on a quarterback if they don't have a shot at a first round underclassmen. Creating a quarterback controversy with a couple young potential filled guys will kill the Chiefs development because they'll decide to wait to find out about their current quarterbacks instead of taking a top prospect when they are there for the taking.

If I were a Chiefs fan, the way I'd want things to play out would be to take Orakpo in the first round with Stafford already off the board and go BPA all day long just like they did last year while avoiding selecting a quarterback. Dump Johnson for the best offer they can find also. His contract is dead weight at this point unfortunately.
I agree. Dump Johnson, take DE or MLB in the first round this year to bolster that defense, and go BPA (maybe picking up a G) the rest of the draft. Stick to our board like last year.

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Yes and no. Branden Albert is a freaking stud at LT, Brian Waters is as good as ever and I like what Rudy Niswanger, our Center, brings to the table. I'm not very happy with how Damion McIntosh has been playing so I think he needs to be replaced, but when your defense only has 6 sacks on the year, and when you're dead last in run D, you have to go DE or MLB with your first selection.

I would love for us to land Herman Johnson in the second if possible. He could start immediately at RG for us.
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Those should have been 3 wins for the Chiefs. But yeah I think Thigpen is pretty good.
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He's really good at lobbing it up to Tony Gonzalez and letting him make ridiculous catches. That's for sure. Kind of reminds me of Derek Anderson that way.
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Do the Chiefs have any history of drafting QBs early? I guess Todd Blackledge in 83 would be it, Len Dawson wasnt drafted by the Chiefs and obviously Montana wasnt either. I agree with the poster that said by the end of the season the Chiefs will know a lot more about Thigpen. What you get by going with him is you can add some important pieces around him whereas going with a Stafford or a Bradford is a big investment when you need so much else overall.
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Do the Chiefs have any history of drafting QBs early? I guess Todd Blackledge in 83 would be it, Len Dawson wasnt drafted by the Chiefs and obviously Montana wasnt either. I agree with the poster that said by the end of the season the Chiefs will know a lot more about Thigpen. What you get by going with him is you can add some important pieces around him whereas going with a Stafford or a Bradford is a big investment when you need so much else overall.
I'd like to see how he develop as the season goes on. Being a starter in this league for the first time always takes a toll on the mind and the body, so we'll see how he holds up physically (because durability with our QBs has been a BIG concern) but moreso I want to see how he holds on MENTALLY. So far, he's been outstanding, but it will take more time to see.

And, I completely agree to the latter point of your post. We will know what we have in Tyler at the end of the year but if we draft a QB high, we're spending a lot of money in one position when it's pretty clear we need help at DE and MLB more if Thigpen continues to play well.
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He's really good at lobbing it up to Tony Gonzalez and letting him make ridiculous catches.
Thats not all he has done kid has been playing smart football and moving the ball around he finds the open man.

I'm not saying he is the next Tom Brady or any thing but he has been doing more then just lobbing up balls.
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Thats not all he has done kid has been playing smart football and moving the ball around he finds the open man.

I'm not saying he is the next Tom Brady or any thing but he has been doing more then just lobbing up balls.
I didn't say that's all he's done, but I'm just putting things in perspective. He throws a lot of balls into coverage and he's lucky he has good receivers to pluck his passes. Depending on who you ask, that kind of risk-taking can be a good thing or a bad thing.

At the very least, he's smart enough to know what receiver to throw to and trust....
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I think he's proven to be a capable backup, but not a #1 guy

at least IMO

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Tyler Thigpen is the man and will lead the Chiefs to the promise land.
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Tyler Thigpen is the man and will lead the Chiefs to the promise land.
He is indeed awesome but he is no JDB.
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