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Old 11-10-2008, 01:28 AM    (permalink
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Im amazed how fast so many teams started to use it. U know Miami has success but u see ATL, PHI and the Chiefs all using it, which is pretty funny.

What do people think about it?
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This formation has proven to be very hard to defend if they have the right players running it. I wish the Pack had the personnel to run the wildcat. Let go Ryan Grant and Jordyzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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This formation has proven to be very hard to defend if they have the right players running it. I wish the Pack had the personnel to run the wildcat. Let go Ryan Grant and Jordyzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
I really do think Jordy would be pretty good back there. I want someone really versatile so we can run it too.
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It is just a matter of time before teams learn to defend it. Vick and the Falcons used the option at the beginning of 2 seasons ago and started the season with a string of 200+ rushing games, and later in the season, defenses figured it out.

Same should go for this. As soon as 1 team figures it out, other teams are going to start copying it.
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It is just a matter of time before teams learn to defend it. Vick and the Falcons used the option at the beginning of 2 seasons ago and started the season with a string of 200+ rushing games, and later in the season, defenses figured it out.

Same should go for this. As soon as 1 team figures it out, other teams are going to start copying it.
Well Balitmore stopped it. I think the Wildcat is just a lot harder to defend, if u look at what u have, just the slightest overpersue or just a wrong reaction can lead to big chunks of yardage
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Well Balitmore stopped it. I think the Wildcat is just a lot harder to defend, if u look at what u have, just the slightest overpersue or just a wrong reaction can lead to big chunks of yardage
Yeah. The amount of talent you have is definitely important, but as soon as the defense sees the Wildcat, the defense is going to be taking on different responsibilities. I dont think defenses know about that responsibility, but I am sure teams will attempt to copy what Baltimore did. It takes a lot of discipline to stop it.
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It is just a matter of time before teams learn to defend it. Vick and the Falcons used the option at the beginning of 2 seasons ago and started the season with a string of 200+ rushing games, and later in the season, defenses figured it out.

Same should go for this. As soon as 1 team figures it out, other teams are going to start copying it.
Actually we just stopped using it.

BTW, the Wildcat is not the same thing as the simple one read college option play. It's much more difficult to stop. And of course you would never run that with your franchise QB because it requires the run up the gut.
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Actually we just stopped using it.

BTW, the Wildcat is not the same thing as the simple one read college option play. It's much more difficult to stop. And of course you would never run that with your franchise QB because it requires the run up the gut.
unless your franchise qb is tim tebow
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unless your franchise qb is tim tebow
And if you make Tim Tebow your franchise quarterback in the first place, you deserve to be without one.
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unless your franchise qb is tim tebow
If would be stupid to even subject someone as big as Tebow to hits like that on a consistent basis.

If you're going to run that formation you have to use a guy who's a rotation skill position player or at least paid like one.

If you take someone like Pat White at the end of the 1st day It's a great idea. But Tebow is the type of guy who's going to demand 1st round money
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I'd love to see the Vikings give it a shot with Peterson, Taylor, Allison, and Berrian.
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It got used some by Carolina in 06 when Delhomme missed a couple of games with a thumb injury.

This was when Dan Henning was the OC.
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Jets have been using it with Brad Smith too. I like it as a novelty play, if you break it out like 3-5 times in a game it should be fairly effective.
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People are going to figure out ways to defend it...and it's not dependable enough to keep going back to if people have it figured out.
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People are going to figure out ways to defend it...and it's not dependable enough to keep going back to if people have it figured out.
its not a formation that can be used regulary, but it could be a trick play that will be more used than the flea flicker and reverses
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If hes there when we pick I wouldnt mind some one who could play QB/RB/TE/WR/DE/LB/S
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The Buccaneers have used it a few times too.
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We actually run it a little bit on the high school team I coach. Schematically, it gives you an advantage over the defense because you have an equal number of blockers for defenders. Usually, on running plays the offense is outmanned, because the quarterback isn't a factor in the play at all. In the Wildcat, he absolutely is.
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I want the Cowboys to incorporate it using Isaiah Stanback. He's supposedly extremely athletic and he also poses more of a passing threat than what any of the other teams using the formation currently have (except Baltimore).

I still can't figure out why this wasn't brought to life for the Brad Johnson era. It would have been nice to at least see some creativity in a time of desperation.
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The Patriots tried a wildcat against the Colts for 2 snaps, they were successful on one of them. Honestly, all it will take for a team to shut it down is a smart team that can maintain gap integrity and play assignment football. If everyone covers their assignments, it should be easily stoppable. That said, Miami seems to have a very intriguing setup for it, and it keeps working for them...it would be interesting to see them draft Tebow to keep that offensive scheme. If they did that, they could have at least 3 different guys lining up at QB, maybe even more.
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the baltimore wildcat with troy smith is the awesomest wildcat though cause they keep a good passing option in there as well, its not like you are snapping the ball to sproles where you just know for certain its gonna be a run, i love it
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