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Old 11-12-2008, 03:12 PM    (permalink
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Who are some players you had high expectations for, and are now dissapointing?

-RB Marshawn Lynch, Bills. I expected to see complete beast mode this year, too bad he's been pedestrian. To be fair, ill put a disclaimer and say his OL has been awful. Jackson has been pretty decent behind the same OL but he's more of a lighting to Lynch's thunder.

-CB Walt Harris. He played well the first 3 games but he has been burnt toast ever since. He's aging and it shows.

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The Bills OL is just really really awful.

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Did you really expect Chad to get a bunch of catches with a back up QB (with an awful O-line) throwing to him?
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Did you really expect Chad to get a bunch of catches with a back up QB (with an awful O-line) throwing to him?
he didnt do that good with Palmer did he?
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he didnt do that good with Palmer did he?
What are you referring to exactly? the 4 games and worst career passer rating that Palmer participated in? Several of which against some of the league's top defenses (Baltimore, Tennessee, Giants)?

I'm not saying that Chad is playing the best he ever has, but it certainly would be a stretch to say that he is a disappointment. The whole Cincinnati offense has been terrible this year, and we haven't found a running game nor a groove up until 2 weeks ago when we played Jacksonville (and Chad caught 2 TD passes in that game).

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To be fair Roddy White did it last year.
Plenty of WR's have decent years with crappy offenses around them, I don't think its fair to compare Chad's situation to Roddy's situation. For one, Roddy was literally the only threat on ATL last year (besides Jerious nerwood, but he didn't play every down).

A lot of what Chad does best requires a QB with a strong arm and the confidence to try it. on the flip side to that, T.J. is an easier target for a QB with less experience and confidence.

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To be fair Roddy White did it last year.
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Did you really expect Chad to get a bunch of catches with a back up QB (with an awful O-line) throwing to him?
Well, if you consider him not a disappointment, then i'd love to see what makes the cut. Regardless of who is around him, he's been disappointing.....simply put. The whole team has, but he is included in that. Is he not a factor? TJ has got catches. A player of his caliber, and with a mouth like him, he should be producing. He needs a top tier QB to justify his status? That should show the type of player you expect him to be. Throw some other WRs with average/below average QBs in his place, let them produce and get his hype. You can't say, 'what do you expect' because i expect a guy to produce when he is a supposed to be 'top tier' WR, especially one with a mouth like that. Be the playmaker, don't dissappear. At least he's not yapping a lot this season......
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Well, if you consider him not a disappointment, then i'd love to see what makes the cut. Regardless of who is around him, he's been disappointing.....simply put. The whole team has, but he is included in that. Is he not a factor? TJ has got catches. A player of his caliber, and with a mouth like him, he should be producing. He needs a top tier QB to justify his status? That should show the type of player you expect him to be. Throw some other WRs with average/below average QBs in his place, let them produce and get his hype. You can't say, 'what do you expect' because i expect a guy to produce when he is a supposed to be 'top tier' WR, especially one with a mouth like that. Be the playmaker, don't dissappear. At least he's not yapping a lot this season......
I don't think Chad needs a "top tier" QB to perform, I think he needs a strong armed QB to perform. I don't think Randy Moss has been a disappointment this season either just because Tom Brady went down. (Despite Welker performing pretty well still in the reception department).

Some receivers require certain types of QB's to get them to look good. Randy Moss doesn't look good with Cassel and Chad Johnson doesn't look as good with Fitzpatrick.

I'm guessing we have different definitions of disappointing in this regard though.
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to be honest im not disappointed with any jets players, just a little disappointed when players aren't consistent.

Brett has been great when he doesn't try to do too much, but when he's about to get sacked he always extends the play into an interception. sometimes taking the sack is necessary, even if it is 3rd down. id much rather punt than give the other team great field position/touchdown with a pick.

Thomas Jones has been a tear recently but there have been a few games where he has been shut down. I'm not saying its all his fault, because those games the d-line played well and our o line didnt get much push. Still tho when he puts up huge numbers some weeks and not good ones others it makes you wonder why.
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For 40+ million g's, i'd expect at least a catch or two
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I would not be disappointed in Lynch. It is 100 percent the O-line's fault. Peters is extremely mediocre and not anything like the past 2 seasons. Dockery is overrated and was blown up on the first play last week. Fowler is possibly the worst center in the League. Fowler is blocking air in this play.
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We always have a backup starting, because someone is always hurt. The only bright spot on O-line has been Langston Walker. If you watch Bills games, you'll see Lynch get stuffed every other run. It isnt his fault at all. BTW, Fred Jackson is my favorite Bill, and is extremely underrated. He is the next Michael Turner due to the situation he is in.
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uhm the OTs?
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How about our entire O-line, none of them have played that well this year
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Other than last week I dont think theyve been disappointing. Inconsistent, yes.
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RB Laurence Maroney - looks about done as Patriots RB with allegations of problems between him and Hoody.

TE Ben Watson - isn't really factoring into games at all and looks to be useless with Matt Cassel.

LG Logan Mankins - has regressed a bit this year and hasn't looked as dominating as last year.

LOLB Mike Vrabel - 12.5 sacks last year but has only 2.0 so far today.
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RB Laurence Maroney - looks about done as Patriots RB with allegations of problems between him and Hoody.

TE Ben Watson - isn't really factoring into games at all and looks to be useless with Matt Cassel.

LG Logan Mankins - has regressed a bit this year and hasn't looked as dominating as last year.

LOLB Mike Vrabel - 12.5 sacks last year but has only 2.0 so far today.
so u expect Jarvus to start next season?
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RB Laurence Maroney - looks about done as Patriots RB with allegations of problems between him and Hoody.

TE Ben Watson - isn't really factoring into games at all and looks to be useless with Matt Cassel.

LG Logan Mankins - has regressed a bit this year and hasn't looked as dominating as last year.

LOLB Mike Vrabel - 12.5 sacks last year but has only 2.0 so far today.
I agree on all of those besides Mankins, he has looked great this year. Watson hasn't done too much but he has really improved with his blocking, I think Cassell needs to get him the ball more. Sammy Morris has looked great when he is on the field, but like Maroney he is always hurt which makes him somewhat disappointing in my book.

I think Maroney will get his shot to start again once he comes back, Green-Ellis looks solid but Maroney is a great talent who has had terrible injury problems.
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RB Laurence Maroney - looks about done as Patriots RB with allegations of problems between him and Hoody.
Oh my haha the Jets should really try to get him. The last former Pats RB we got turned out to be pretty damn impressive. Maroney has talent, and you can bet your ass if Mangenious is still running the Jets they'll try to get him. But I doubt they can cause they'll have to trade for him and no way in hell does NE trade anyone to the Jets.
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For the Colts, Marvin Harrison is my biggest disappointment.

I can accept that he is old, coming off an injury, bla bla bla, he's dropping easy passes and doesn't look like he is trying now, I'd try to trade him or cut him this offseason, he's actually hurting the team now and is on for a big cap figure.
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The Entire DL QB pressure on the Bears.
Tommie Harris gets his own mention.
Nathan Vasher.
And idk Bears Pass D.
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