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Old 03-04-2007, 01:33 PM    (permalink
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Default Over Paying Free Agency horrible this year

Nate Clement, Wes Welker, Dwayne White, Leonard Davis, Dennis Northcutt, Michael Lewis, all getting over paid. I mean Nate Clement is a very good CB. But the highest paid player in the NFL? I mean he's no Champ Bailey! Wes Welker getting 39 million! Why didn't they just re-sign Deion Branch? Dwayne White getting 6 Million a season. Over a million dollars a sack! Leonard Davis getting 7 Mill a season. Dennis Northcutt getting paid like a starter?

I for one am glad the Steelers aren't mixing it up in free agency yet.
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Many will say it's because the salary cap has increased, I for one say it doesn't matter, everyone is still getting overpaid! Just like in baseball.
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How insightful. Absolutely nobody else has brought this issue up on the message board yet.
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Get used to it. This isn't your father's NFL. With 65% of NFL income being used on players (I.E., the Salary Cap), it'll only get worse. This is the market now. Considering how much Drew Bennett got and Kevin Curtis and Donte' Stallworth will get, Dennis Northcutt with eventually be considered something of a bargain.
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Northcutt is making around the same that he was making in Cleveland, by the way. Like almost all of the free agent contracts signed this offseason, the deal is backloaded, so the team can cut him with few losses after a few years.
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It's reminding me alot of baseball where teams feel that they need to overpay right away to get the guys they want instead of taking their time and making reasonable deals.
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Take a look at the Vishanthe Shiancoe thread.
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Lewis = 10 million gaurantted on a 6 year deal, when he wasnt even a starter.
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The Eagles benched him to lower his value, oldest trick in the book.
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They benched him because he was playing terrible.
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They benched him because he was playing terrible.
QFT. Also because they loved Sean Considine and wanted to get him on the field as much as possible. He was pretty bad too, but they still love him for some reason.
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QFT. Also because they loved Sean Considine and wanted to get him on the field as much as possible. He was pretty bad too, but they still love him for some reason.
Where did you get that Considine was pretty bad? He was solid, and certainly better than Lewis who was giving up TD's all over the place.
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Actually, we benched him because he was getting beaten for big plays that were hurting our defense. Thats just a dumb thing to say.
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Actually, we benched him because he was getting beaten for big plays that were hurting our defense. Thats just a dumb thing to say.
He was put a position to fail. If the Eagles knew how to use him he could have been better. Why did you guys have him man up on WR's all the time? He is a SS. If you guys didn't blitz every down maybe a CB could do what he is supposed to do and cover the WR's. Nolan isn't that dumb to play his SS man on WR's for a majority of the game
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is it true that Nate clements got 23 million guaranteed?....becuase I thought that was the entire contract
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People need to realize how much the contracts actually are. The players won't see most of that money. Just like when all the rookies got HUGE contracts last year they weren't really that big because that is the most money they can see, but they won't get see most of it. The deals are pretty crazy because of the signing bonuses but they aren't anywhere near as bad as people are making it seem.

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People need to realize how much the contracts actually are. The players won't see most of that money. Just like when all the rookies got HUGE contracts last year they weren't really that big because that is the most money they can see, but they won't get see most of it. The deals are pretty crazy because of the signing bonuses but they aren't anywhere near as bad as people are making it seem.

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Your absolutely right, NFL contracts don't mean much except for the guaranteed money which is all these FA's are likely to receive. The rest of the contract like Clements, he'll never ever see that money. It has become just good publicity to make the contracts a lot bigger than they really are.
What has me interested is, just how are a lot of these teams paying these huge guarantees going to handle their own future FA's when they have spent all their money this year. They aren't going to have the same kinds of money available next year as all the TV contracts are settled. I guess the Denver's and the NE's know what they are doing, I sure hope so for their sakes.

I could see a lot of holdouts this training camp as teams try to calm down their veterans who could come to camp generally pissed seeing an inferior player playing beside them for a lot more money. It could be very disruptive on teams which invested heavily in FA's and could seriously backfire on a lot of teams.
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well champ still makes the most a year...he avrages 9 mill a year
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The answer is building through the draft, & avoiding FA unless someone special is out there & is worth overpaying. I'm glad the Colts usually stay out of FA (damn you Corey Simon).
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Consider this.

Look at the 12 teams that have signed FAs. Then go check the teams who have not been paying for FAs.

Tell me if you can find the trend.
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well champ still makes the most a year...he avrages 9 mill a year
And Nate Clements averages 10 million a year. Pretty simple math. 8 years 80 million dollars.
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And Nate Clements averages 10 million a year. Pretty simple math. 8 years 80 million dollars.
Actually it's not nearly that simple, which is what a lot of people don't understand.
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Actually it's not nearly that simple, which is what a lot of people don't understand.
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Champ Bailey
63,000,000.00 divided by seven years equals 9,000,000.00 a season.

Nate Clements
80,000,000.00 divided by eight years equals 10,000,000.00 a season.

So if I'm wrong how this doesn't come out that Nate Clements is getting paid more on average let me know.

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Champ Bailey
63,000,000.00 divided by seven years equals 9,000,000.00 a season.

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80,000,000.00 divided by eight years equalts 10,000,000.00 a season.

So if I'm wrong how this doesn't come out that Nate Clements is getting paid more on average let me know.

35$ Million of Nate Clements contract, he will NEVER see. He is going to get paid 45$ Million for six years, then as he turns 32 years old, he will be cut loose.
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