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Wow great opening to a thread BBD. we dont suck as much we did last yr so off to 2010 away.
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its just so frustrating. at least Galo scored some points in our opener. My boy Wilson Chandler is looking good too.

But jeez, no 1st round draft pick. No real Center to speak of. We have too many small forwards. no point guard, no real shooting guard, we're a hot mess.


We need to trade a forward while we can.

Id package a forward and Nate Washington for a legit defensive Center.
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its just so frustrating. at least Galo scored some points in our opener. My boy Wilson Chandler is looking good too.

But jeez, no 1st round draft pick. No real Center to speak of. We have too many small forwards. no point guard, no real shooting guard, we're a hot mess.


We need to trade a forward while we can.

Id package a forward and Nate Washington for a legit defensive Center.
Wilson Chandler didn't play good in the 1st game at all so dont know why your happy about his performance.

we have no 1st thank 2 Isiah but hopefully at worst you can buy a pick from a contender who usually sell their picks

Nate Washington? lol idk he left the titans for the Knicks no seriously what center are you going to trade for and expect this other team to take Nate and a extra.
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Did I say Nate Washington? lol.


Id love Wade, but can we afford Wade and Bosh? I thought they made some changes to the salary cap and we probably will only be able to afford 1 guy?

Id honestly rather have Amare than Bosh. Bosh is too soft for my liking.

And Chandler had 21 points? How was he awful?

My concerns with Amare are his health and his defense though. But I think you can teach him defense. He has toughness to him. His health scares me though. He was such a monster before that microfracture surgery. I think his game has dipped lately bc he's become unmotivated in Phoenix.

I think the bright lights of NY and coming back to D'Antoni would light a fire under him.
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Id love Wade, but can we afford Wade and Bosh? I thought they made some changes to the salary cap and we probably will only be able to afford 1 guy?

Id honestly rather have Amare than Bosh. Bosh is too soft for my liking.

And Chandler had 21 points? How was he awful?

My concerns with Amare are his health and his defense though. But I think you can teach him defense. He has toughness to him. His health scares me though. He was such a monster before that microfracture surgery. I think his game has dipped lately bc he's become unmotivated in Phoenix.

I think the bright lights of NY and coming back to D'Antoni would light a fire under him.
ya u said Nate Washington

Wilson Chandler shot the ball horribly he didn't make many jump shots yet he took a lot. Look at his shot chart and look at all the missed shots jumpers he took. Most of his points were around the paint except for one shot.

We can only afford 1 guy if we cant get rid of Curry and Jeffries. I would easily take Bosh over Amare. Mike had him in phoenix and couldn't teach him defense but now in NY he is going to teach him defense? come on. Bosh is tougher then Amare yet you want Amare over him. Bosh at least makes a effort on defense unlike Amare.
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I'm thinking Wade and Bosh come in next year and no LeBron.
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I'm pretty sure they can still afford 2 max contracts.
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Well hot damn.

I guess I'll start paying attention next year and just skip this year then. No need for any extra aggravation that this team would cost me.

I said after we traded Ewing (<///3), that I wouldn't get excited about the Knicks until I feel we put together a legit team that could compete for a championship.

That was 10 years ago :(

I still can't believe we traded Ewing. I still haven't forgiven the Knicks for that one.
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As for cap space at worst we'll have room for a max + 7 mil, there's a good chance that becomes a max + 9mil and if jeffries gets dealt for an expiring, which isn't too unreasonable, that could be enough for 2 maxes, but what I'm hoping for is either Lebron, Mike Miller, Camby and nate or lebron, rondo and camby. If Wade leaves Miami it's to go home to chicago, I don't want amare on a long term deal and think toronto will do well enough to secure Bosh, so IMO Lebron is the most likely max to change teams and the most likely to join us as well, largely because Cleveland is so god awful around him and because they no longer have really good flexibility going forward.
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Since I know how much you love gallo BBD I wanted to post that he's averaging 22.7 points on only 15.6 shots a game. That on top of his unselfish play, solid D and good effort on the boards, although he's still too thin to make an impact there. Makes me ecstatic about this pick.
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Bosh will be a Knick. Francessa has stated it and it makes perfect sense. The question is will that be enough to attract Joe Johnson, Wade, or LeBron.

We have a lot flexibility with Lee and Robinson. We could let them walk, keep them, or trade them this season.

I love Lee, but his defense has gotten worse as his star has risen. Plus, Hill is waiting in the wings.

Sucks that we don't have a first round pick and that we have so much money tied up in Jeffries and Curry.

Hopefully it will be a fun year and we'll see some improvement and flashes from the young guys. Otherwise, let's try and surprise the league and sneak into the playoffs. 0-3 is a great start.....
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Bosh will be a Knick. Francessa has stated it and it makes perfect sense. The question is will that be enough to attract Joe Johnson, Wade, or LeBron.

We have a lot flexibility with Lee and Robinson. We could let them walk, keep them, or trade them this season.

I love Lee, but his defense has gotten worse as his star has risen. Plus, Hill is waiting in the wings.

Sucks that we don't have a first round pick and that we have so much money tied up in Jeffries and Curry.

Hopefully it will be a fun year and we'll see some improvement and flashes from the young guys. Otherwise, let's try and surprise the league and sneak into the playoffs. 0-3 is a great start.....
Honestly I'd rather not bring in bosh unless we absolutely have to to draw lebron or wade as well. If we don't need to add Bosh I think we'd be a better team if we brought back camby, brought in mike miller and signed a veteran point guard to share that job with douglas. Let Lee and Nate walk and wait until 2011 when curry expires to make another big addition.

would give us a season of:
Camby/Hill/Curry
Gallo/Chandler
Chandler/Mike Miller
Lebron/Mike Miller
Vet/Douglas

Which could be a true contending team with some progress from Chandler and Hill with another 11 mil in cap space opening up in 2011.
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Gallo is scoring points.

I just don't like perimeter big men. We'll see. He's doing better than I thought he'd do, I'll give him that.

I wanted Ricky Rubio so bad this draft. He'd actually pair up with Gallo very nicely, and Id be more open to our wide open style if we had a PG like Ricky Rubio.
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I like the signing of Stoudemire. I really like our options heading forward.

Getting Lebron is obviously the dream, but realistically, I don't see him coming. If we do get Lebron, I'd love for us to pair Stoudemire and Lebron together, and package a sign and trade for Chris Paul and sign him to an extension next year. We can afford another max contract player next year, so pairing those 3 together has championship potential.

If we don't get Lebron, I think we should get Carmelo Anthony and Chris Paul next year. Save our money and just get Stoudemire this year. Melo wants to come to the Knicks bad. His wife lives here, he went to Syracuse, he loves NY, he has every reason to come here.

So I'm hoping we either have a combo of Lebron/Stoudemire/Paul in the future, or Melo/Stoudemire/Paul in the future. Either way, i think its gonna be exciting times to be a Knicks fan again. I can't wait.

We suffered long enough.
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Getting Lebron is obviously the dream, but realistically, I don't see him coming. If we do get Lebron, I'd love for us to pair Stoudemire and Lebron together, and package a sign and trade for Chris Paul and sign him to an extension next year. We can afford another max contract player next year, so pairing those 3 together has championship potential.

If we don't get Lebron, I think we should get Carmelo Anthony and Chris Paul next year. Save our money and just get Stoudemire this year. Melo wants to come to the Knicks bad. His wife lives here, he went to Syracuse, he loves NY, he has every reason to come here.

So I'm hoping we either have a combo of Lebron/Stoudemire/Paul in the future, or Melo/Stoudemire/Paul in the future. Either way, i think its gonna be exciting times to be a Knicks fan again. I can't wait.

We suffered long enough.
If the Knicks get CP3, I will cream my pants so hard. He is the only reason I watch the NBA, my favorite player, met him once and he is the man. If they can get CP3, I will go to every game at MSG
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Looks like Lebron is choosing Cleveland or Miami. I'm a sad panda.

Now we gotta hope we land Melo and CP3 next year. We gotta fight their big 3 with our own big 3 if we can assemble it.
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Gallinari ****** sucks.

Get that bum off my team.
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We're barely beating Toronto but at least I see some things I like.

Amare and Felton look good. I like Chandler providing a spark off the bench. We need to bench the Russian, he blows.

And get rid of Gallinari. I can't stand him. GET THAT BUM. OFF MY TEAM.

I have no idea what you guys see in him. He sucks so bad. Get him outta here.
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And get rid of Gallinari. I can't stand him. GET THAT BUM. OFF MY TEAM.

I have no idea what you guys see in him. He sucks so bad. Get him outta here.
I would trade Bargnani for him, straight up. Hell ..you want Amir Johnson and his contract?
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I would trade Bargnani for him, straight up. Hell ..you want Amir Johnson and his contract?
Na, we're going to trick a team into thinking Gallo is good and "has potential" so we can grab Carmelo Anthony.
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We're barely beating Toronto but at least I see some things I like.

Amare and Felton look good. I like Chandler providing a spark off the bench. We need to bench the Russian, he blows.

And get rid of Gallinari. I can't stand him. GET THAT BUM. OFF MY TEAM.

I have no idea what you guys see in him. He sucks so bad. Get him outta here.
Gallo is good. You will just have to accept it, BBD. (Unless he gets traded)

Still, a solid opening night. Too many turnovers and guys were missing shots they normally hit, but that is the norm for the first week or two.

Amar'e had waaaay too many turnovers, but as mentioned it's not too big of deal. Plus also he posterized a couple of players. He's going to be fun to watch this year.
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Carmelo SO wants to be a Knick.

I can taste him guys. I can ****** taste him.


Melo and Amare. It's time to get excited about Knick basketball again.
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