Jonathan Baldwin

Vikes99ej · 06-30-2010, 05:36 PM

I couldn't find a new thread on him, so let's use this one to talk about how good he is!

BamaFalcon59 · 06-30-2010, 05:38 PM

Reminds me of Vincent Jackson, physically and what he does on the football field.

Vikes99ej · 06-30-2010, 05:42 PM

I was thinking Plaxico Burress, before all of his shenanigans.

wonderbredd24 · 06-30-2010, 05:50 PM

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I was thinking Plaxico Burress, before all of his shenanigans.

Baldwin has far more ability to go vertical than Burress does/did

wicket · 06-30-2010, 05:45 PM

physically the most gifted wr to come out since calvin iyam

bce · 07-01-2010, 08:09 PM

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physically the most gifted wr to come out since calvin iyam

I think its a valid comparison. One advantage for baldwin though over "megatron". Hes not an injury prone soft serve type.

he has aliquippa in his veins and everyone who knows knows aliquippa dont miss

Paranoidmoonduck · 06-30-2010, 05:47 PM

Jackson was bigger and stronger coming out and had a bit of a different game. He was (and continues to be) a deep ball receiver because he's strong enough to out muscle defensive backs, fast enough to beat the majority of guys deep, and tracks the ball well over his shoulder.

Baldwin, at least so far, has a bit of a different game. Pittsburgh seems to like sending him on deep comebacks because cornerbacks feel the need to give him lots of room and Baldwin can charge back on the ball to an insane degree due to his leaping ability. Your average college corner has no chance against Baldwin in that circumstance.

Baldwin brings more of a body control and size game rather than a strength and quickness approach, but he's crazy talented either way. Easily good enough to be the first receiver off the board even considering the stiff competition he's likely to face at his position.

K Train · 06-30-2010, 05:50 PM

i mean i know its common because of going to pitt but hes not THAT far off from fitz as a prospect....chances are they run about the same 40 in the 4.5-4.6 range, they are crazy good at getting the jump ball, both big, both pretty physical guys

wonderbredd24 · 06-30-2010, 05:52 PM

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i mean i know its common because of going to pitt but hes not THAT far off from fitz as a prospect....chances are they run about the same 40 in the 4.5-4.6 range, they are crazy good at getting the jump ball, both big, both pretty physical guys

Baldwin is faster, but Fitzgerald is far better in traffic and more physical

K Train · 06-30-2010, 05:56 PM

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Baldwin is faster, but Fitzgerald is far better in traffic and more physical

im not saying exact clones, but i dont think calvin is a legit comparison.

and i dont think baldwin is gonna run that fast. i mean not a slow run, but i dont expect the scouts to be blown away like they were with calvin johnson.

from antonio bryant, to fitz, to baldwin...pitt has been cranking out good WRs in the last 8 or so years

wonderbredd24 · 06-30-2010, 05:59 PM

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im not saying exact clones, but i dont think calvin is a legit comparison.

and i dont think baldwin is gonna run that fast. i mean not a slow run, but i dont expect the scouts to be blown away like they were with calvin johnson.

from antonio bryant, to fitz, to baldwin...pitt has been cranking out good WRs in the last 8 or so years

Antonio Bryant has been a good wide receiver? He was a belitnikoff award winner and a pretty big dissapointment with a couple decent seasons thrown in

K Train · 06-30-2010, 06:01 PM

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Antonio Bryant has been a good wide receiver? He was a belitnikoff award winner and a pretty big dissapointment with a couple decent seasons thrown in

good college WR and decent prospect....he was a BEAST at pitt, i didnt say he took the world by storm in the pros

fitz went 3rd overall, bryant went in the second...i think baldwin is comfortably in between them in the 20 range.

phlysac · 07-01-2010, 06:45 PM

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from antonio bryant, to fitz, to baldwin...pitt has been cranking out good WRs in the last 8 or so years

Watch out for Devin Street next. People have already said he might have just as much upside as Baldwin. Scary.

RealityCheck · 06-30-2010, 05:58 PM

Will be a Top 10 pick after it's all said and done.

JFLO · 06-30-2010, 05:59 PM

I think I'm bigger on Baldwin than most people and I think he has a legitimate shot of being a Top 10-15 pick in April. I think he'll run in the 4.48-4.55 range and his speed is very deceptive.

He needs to branch his route running abilities a bit more because Pitt doesn't ask him to run a vast variety of them, but he definitely has the potential to be a very good #1 guy at the next level. His physical abilities are uncanny and will have scouts drooling and reminding some folks of Megatron.

K Train · 06-30-2010, 06:00 PM

i also think hes the most likely to return to school and be the consensus #1 WR in 2012 out of the big 4 this year

Hines · 06-30-2010, 06:09 PM

Oh my goodness, I LOVE Jon Baldwin. I want him on the Steelers so bad. I hope if he does come out, the Steelers don't pull the same mistake they made with Revis. Has great hands, strong, good body control, and fast. I hope he runs a slow 40 so the Steelers have a shot. He needs to work on his route tree, though.

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K Train · 06-30-2010, 06:10 PM

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now THATS passion

wonderbredd24 · 06-30-2010, 06:11 PM

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Oh my goodness, I LOVE Jon Baldwin. I want him on the Steelers so bad. I hope if he does come out, the Steelers don't pull the same mistake they made with Revis. Has great hands, strong, good body control, and fast. I hope he runs a slow 40 so the Steelers have a shot. He needs to work on his route tree, though.

Please do... keep drafting non linemen. It makes me happy.

Hines · 06-30-2010, 06:22 PM

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Please do... keep drafting non linemen. It makes me happy.

If he is the best player on the Steelers' board, they'll draft him. That's how they roll. If there's a top OLman on the board, they'll draft them.

wonderbredd24 · 06-30-2010, 06:25 PM

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If he is the best player on the Steelers' board, they'll draft him. That's how they roll. If there's a top OLman on the board, they'll draft them.

Which is why they are falling apart... I hope Baldwin is there so they can take him while their DLine gets even older and their OLine continues to be flanked by turnstyles

Hines · 06-30-2010, 06:28 PM

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Which is why they are falling apart... I hope Baldwin is there so they can take him while their DLine gets even older and their OLine continues to be flanked by turnstyles

DL is getting younger. They've gotten young bodies at those positions. All they need is a NT, which they can get in the 2nd-3rd rounds. Yeah, I want OL to be shaped up bad.

underscore · 06-30-2010, 06:46 PM

Baldwin certainly is the physical specimen you'd want for an NFL WR...but will his WR skills be good enough?

LonghornsLegend · 06-30-2010, 06:55 PM

Oh boy do I have a man crush on Baldwin, I was lucky enough to watch that Under Armour HS All-American game when he looked like a man amongst boys and I knew he was a player ever since there.

For a guy his size he has some amazing body control when the ball is in the air too, he's not stiff at all, he attacks the ball at it's high point which is pretty scary for a guy his size. I think he'll be dominant no matter what his 40 time is, but I don't buy 4.3, high 4.4 maybe, but he seems more of a low 4.5 guy on film which is fast as hell at his size and frame.

He has some excellent ball skills to, and I don't think he'll have any problem beating any DB's deep at the next level.

FUNBUNCHER · 06-30-2010, 08:11 PM

I don't like getting hung up on 40 times for a WR, since it's the least predictive measurement for success, but I can say I will NOT be surprised if he runs a sub 4.45 at the combine. I didn't know Megatron had those kind of wheels until he blew up at Indy, so I'll reserve judgment on his speed.

I like the fact that Baldwin appears to have very strong hands and doesn't catch the ball into his body.

My favorite WR prospect going into the 2011 draft.