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While the majority of us probably want both of them to be gone, if you had to choose one or the other to come back in 2011, which one would you pick?

My vote goes to Alex Smith.

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I don't see how anyone could possibly pick Mike Singletary if you have to pick one of them to come back. To be honest, I can actually see Alex coming back if he finishes out the season well. The new coach will want his own young QB but keeping around Alex as a backup would be smart.

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I hate Alex Smith. He is a good guy and he is smart but he does not have the instincts or bravado(sp?) to be a QB. I would take anyone over him
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I thought I was supposed to vote on who I did not want to come back. I would rather keep Alex than Singletary.
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I thought I was supposed to vote on who I did not want to come back. I would rather keep Alex than Singletary.
Edit: I misunderstood as well, dump the HC & keep Alex.

Voted Singletary b/c his dumb decisions regarding personnel trump Alex Smith's dumb decisions on the field.

And Singletary does more damage -- difficult to believe if you watched Alex this yr but it's true. A fraud HC like that can sink an entire franchise.

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no brainer - Alex over Sing everyday of the week
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Sorry Brent/Lizard.

You vote for the person that you would rather have in 2011. I should have worded it better. Sorry.
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Can't we just have them both gone ?
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Can't we just have them both gone ?
Yeah but since Ness likes to blame Alex and no one else, I wanted to make a poll to where you MUST keep one or the other for 2011. I mainly wanted to see everyone's opinion on who they would rather keep if they had to choose between the two.
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Yeah but since Ness likes to blame Alex and no one else, I wanted to make a poll to where you MUST keep one or the other for 2011. I mainly wanted to see everyone's opinion on who they would rather keep if they had to choose between the two.
You seriously made a poll because of what I said in another thread. Wow. I just hope you aren't losing sleep from what we are talking about.

Yeah this isn't a childish tactic at all. O.o

The fact that what we were discussed prompted you to make a poll, based on a misconstrued understanding of what were were talking about no less, is quite pathetic in my opinion.

By the way I never didn't blame Singletary for what he's done. You failed to comprehend what I was talking about and at this point you're just reiterating statements that I never made in this first place.
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You seriously made a poll because of what I said in another thread. Wow. I just hope you aren't losing sleep from what we are talking about.

Yeah this isn't a childish tactic at all. O.o

The fact that what we were discussed prompted you to make a poll, based on a misconstrued understanding of what were were talking about no less, is quite pathetic in my opinion.

By the way I never didn't blame Singletary for what he's done. You failed to comprehend what I was talking about and at this point you're just reiterating statements that I never made in this first place.
Because of what you said in regards to Alex/Troy/Sing gave me the idea for the poll and since I never posted one before, I figured what the hell, mine as well.

And no, im not losing any sleep over any of this. LOL. And while this topic may be childish, its not any more childish than arguing with you back and forth every other day.

In regards to Alex, you never blame Sing. You basically just bash Alex over and over again like he's the only one to blame. My comprehension of what you've said is actually quite clear -

-You prefer Troy over Alex
-You think Troy gives the team a better chance to win the last two games even though you've never stated why you think that
-You blame Alex whenever he plays poor but never anyone else like he's the only one at fault
-You use Troy not being at 49ers TC or pre-S. as to why he sucks and took so long to get used to the playbook when instead, you should be blaming Sing for signing Troy over keeping Davis on the active roster
-You somehow think Troy will be a 49er next year over Alex. No damn way. Either Alex will return or both will be gone

The above sums up what you've been saying for the last few weeks so unless im wrong (and correct me if I am), I've comprehended what you've said perfectly.
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Because of what you said in regards to Alex/Troy/Sing gave me the idea for the poll and since I never posted one before, I figured what the hell, mine as well.

And no, im not losing any sleep over any of this. LOL. And while this topic may be childish, its not any more childish than arguing with you back and forth every other day.

In regards to Alex, you never blame Sing. You basically just bash Alex over and over again like he's the only one to blame. My comprehension of what you've said is actually quite clear -

-You prefer Troy over Alex
-You think Troy gives the team a better chance to win the last two games even though you've never stated why you think that
-You blame Alex whenever he plays poor but never anyone else like he's the only one at fault
-You use Troy not being at 49ers TC or pre-S. as to why he sucks and took so long to get used to the playbook when instead, you should be blaming Sing for signing Troy over keeping Davis on the active roster
-You somehow think Troy will be a 49er next year over Alex. No damn way. Either Alex will return or both will be gone

The above sums up what you've been saying for the last few weeks so unless im wrong (and correct me if I am), I've comprehended what you've said perfectly.
Fact of the matter is I said something that got under your skin and you decided to make a poll about it on a message board as some self-gratifying retaliation. In my book that is definitely more childish than having a civil discussion about football everyday.

In any case, you didn't comprehend what I was mentioning earlier in full. I have blamed Mike Singletary for the team's failure. Especially a lot earlier in the season. You can go back and look if you wish. Why you've ignored this or accused me of not blaming Mike and only Alex for the team's failures I don't know.

As for Troy Smith, I do prefer him over Alex. I think he's a better quarterback at this point in time. Him not being here in training camp and not having that many snaps is a disadvantage. Those are facts. Alex Smith has not had the same disadvantage. Yet he's played worse in my opinion. I actually never liked the signing of Troy in the first play and did criticize Singletary earlier in the year for not keeping Nate Davis. This is the second or third time I've told you that. Why you continue to ignore it is on you.

Recently, I've focused on Alex Smith for my criticism on the team as far as the players are concerned. But he isn't the only one I've complained about.

And as for Troy being here next season, if he plays well the next couple of games I could see him coming back as a backup. I think Alex Smith's days are over and he isn't coming back. Especially after not doing anything for the last six seasons and also due to most likely not finishing out this season. It just isn't going to look good for the franchise. Not everyone shares your opinion that Alex has played better compared to Troy. So that angle is not 100% sure. It's fairly split if you look at other boards and people's opinions. You should at least consider the possibility that Alex leaves and Troy stays. Don't be surprised if it happens. Me, I don't care. Both aren't going to be the leaders of this franchise. So they can both jet. But if I wanted a backup, I'm probably taking Troy between the two if I had to choose.

Hopefully that clears things up for you.
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Rather keep Alex over Singletary. At least Alex won't make a bonehead mistake like running the ball 3x up the gut.
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So basically this is like choosing between having cancer or AIDS.
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Keeping Alex would be awful for the franchise and humiliating. That would be like the Chargers keeping Ryan Leaf until 2004...even as just a backup. It's embarrassing. It's basically sending a message everyone out there that the franchise still has confidence in it's busted quarterback...instead of doing the logical thing and admitting a mistake was made and move forward.
It would be nothing like that. Leaf was a bottom 3 QB in addition to being, by all accounts, an a-hole and a locker room cancer. Alex is an average QB who is a hard worker and who no one in the locker room has ever had any type of problems with. If the new coach makes it clear that Alex is going to be the backup and there will be no competition or that the guy he drafts is eventually going to take over then there won't be a problem. Alex could even perform well waiting for the new guy to take over and we could have a Drew Brees/Philip Rivers scenario.
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It would be nothing like that. Leaf was a bottom 3 QB in addition to being, by all accounts, an a-hole and a locker room cancer. Alex is an average QB who is a hard worker and who no one in the locker room has ever had any type of problems with. If the new coach makes it clear that Alex is going to be the backup and there will be no competition or that the guy he drafts is eventually going to take over then there won't be a problem. Alex could even perform well waiting for the new guy to take over and we could have a Drew Brees/Philip Rivers scenario.
The fact that you're still dreaming that Alex could be good and your mind won't be changed is sad and makes this discussion pointless. When Alex starts performing like Brees or Rivers let me know. Alex will never be a good quarterback. I'm willing to bet you 100 dollars that within the next five years he won't do anything significant anywhere.
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The fact that you're still dreaming that Alex could be good and your mind won't be changed is sad and makes this discussion pointless. When Alex starts performing like Brees or Rivers let me know.
I don't think he will start performing like Brees or Rivers, I never said I did. To act like it is impossible is stupid, though, because he has performed well in short bursts before. If a good coach can just find some way to harness it you never know...

It is irrelevant whether he can be good or not, though, because he is already average while Troy sucks. A new coach would rather have an average QB than a crappy one. Alex's past will have no effect on whether or not he stays
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I don't think he will start performing like Brees or Rivers, I never said I did. To act like it is impossible is stupid, though, because he has performed well in short bursts before. If a good coach can just find some way to harness it you never know...

It is irrelevant whether he can be good or not, though, because he is already average while Troy sucks. A new coach would rather have an average QB than a crappy one. Alex's past will have no effect on whether or not he stays
Then why even bring up that scenario in the discussion? It's pointless. Why would acting like it's impossible for Alex to perform like Brees or Rivers stupid? Just because you don't want to believe it?

Both Troy and Alex suck. Let's get that straight. Alex is not average. But having this discussion is pointless like I said because you still believe Alex will be good. His past will have an effect on whether he stays or not. My $100 offer still stands.
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I'm willing to bet you 100 dollars that within the next five years he won't do anything significant anywhere.
Just want to clarify - what exactly do you see as significant in regards to Alex?
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I don't still believe Alex can be good consistently but I believe he can be average with times when he plays great. He has proven that. And he is average.
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I don't still believe Alex can be good consistently but I believe he can be average with times when he plays great. He has proven that. And he is average.
Well him not being good is the important part. And if he's not good consistently, then he's not good at all. If you want to believe he's "average", that's fine. I just think he's downright terrible.
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Well him not being good is the important part. And if he's not good consistently, then he's not good at all. If you want to believe he's "average", that's fine. I just think he's downright terrible.
He isn't. Look at what he has done the past two years
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He isn't. Look at what he has done the past two years
You're right, he hasn't done anything.
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You're right, he hasn't done anything.
~225 yards per game, 30 touchdowns, 22 interceptions, 60% completion, and a 80 QB rating is pretty average
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