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Old 09-23-2011, 07:28 PM    (permalink
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I am gong to the game tomorrow. In addition to the obvious, is ther anything I should watch? He will probably not be under much pressure, since they are playing Engineering Geek U (Rice).

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Impressive. You would have to be with more TD passes than incompletions. That is for the season BTW.

The dude has RB in his soul. During the 2 minute drill, at the end of the first half, he pulled one down and ran for daylight. 35 yards, Two nice cuts and some broken tackles later, he was inside the the 5. Rather than play it safe, he went airborn, got hit from two directions, and coughed up the ball. Had they scored it would have been 42-17 at half.

As expected, RG III stayed in the pocket most of his time (he came out with 5 minutes left in the 3rd Quarter). He did some things very well. Kendal Wright set the school TD mark on a sweet sideline route, in the red zone. The catch was pretty, but the throw could not have been better. Ganaway got his first career TD on a little delayed flair, probably the third or fourth guy on the tree. Ganaway is your basic moose RB. He stayed in to block, then released in the flat.

Probably the most impressive play was the 4th TD pass of the first quarter. With the ball at the Rice 29, RG III got moved out of the pocket. He had room to run, but kept his head up and found a receiver (Lanear Sampson) single covered in the end zone. As against TCU, he visibly controlled the urge to run. On that play it paid gold.

Rice was not a good test. Baylor got up 28 points, then gave a bunch back. The team does not know how to play with a lead. It was nowhere near as close as the 56-35 final score. That being said, Rice does have a good QB. At the level they play, they should do decently.

I also have to second what Scott said concerning Kendall Wright. This guy is an NFL WR. His stats look much better when you consider that three of his receptions were in the flat, for little or no yardage. Baylor threw in the flat a LOT. Essentially their WR are part of the running game.

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For me the most impressive thing about RGIII is even when he's throwing on the run he always sets his feet beautifully and squares his shoulders before making a throw, he doesn't simply rely on arm strength. I think you can tighten his mechanics a bit but give his athleticism and continually improving mechanics and understanding of the game he has first round pick written all over him. He plays the way most thought Jake Locker should have in college.
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For me the most impressive thing about RGIII is even when he's throwing on the run he always sets his feet beautifully and squares his shoulders before making a throw, he doesn't simply rely on arm strength. I think you can tighten his mechanics a bit but give his athleticism and continually improving mechanics and understanding of the game he has first round pick written all over him. He plays the way most thought Jake Locker should have in college.
Agree on the throwing on the run. The one I mentioned, he did a little skip to reset his feet before throwing.

Who do you think the best comparison is? None of the really mobile QBs in the NFL seem to fit.
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RObert Griffin doesn't have any easy comparisons. He's probably going to time 4.45 or faster at the combine, however he isn't a great broken field runner but he is very mobile.

Looks like he's a legit 6'2, 220#. His passing has improved dramatically the last two seasons and his arm strength is ideal.

Robert Griffin III is somewhere IMO between Vick and Rodgers as a prospect. Athletic skills very close to Vick, but his vision and passing ability are more refined.

With the success of Cam Newton, I think Robert Griffin's draft stock is going to sky rocket.
Now if Baylor can pull off an upset of one of the major Big 12 programs and make it to a bowl game, RGIII will potentially solidify himself as a top 10 prospect.


TCU was a nice win, but beating Rice and Stephen F. Austin doesn't impress.

Baylor is about to start their Big 12 schedule. All will be revealed beginning with a game next Saturday against a solid K-State team in Manhattan.
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RObert Griffin doesn't have any easy comparisons. He's probably going to time 4.45 or faster at the combine, however he isn't a great broken field runner but he is very mobile.

Looks like he's a legit 6'2, 220#. His passing has improved dramatically the last two seasons and his arm strength is ideal.

Robert Griffin III is somewhere IMO between Vick and Rodgers as a prospect. Athletic skills very close to Vick, but his vision and passing ability are more refined.

With the success of Cam Newton, I think Robert Griffin's draft stock is going to sky rocket.
Now if Baylor can pull off an upset of one of the major Big 12 programs and make it to a bowl game, RGIII will potentially solidify himself as a top 10 prospect.


TCU was a nice win, but beating Rice and Stephen F. Austin doesn't impress.

Baylor is about to start their Big 12 schedule. All will be revealed beginning with a game next Saturday against a solid K-State team in Manhattan.
What would Newton's success have to do with Griffin? Just curious. I like the Aaron Rodgers comparison for Griffin.

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Best QB not named Luck and future top 10 pick.

How's that for a bold statement?
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LOL. Pretty friggin bold.
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I'm a very big fan of Griffin as well and have been vocal about it in the past. He has all the tools to be a very good player in the NFL even taking his legs out of the equation. On top of that, he has the right mentality as a passer and is a great kid with phenomenal intangibles.
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I'm a very big fan of Griffin as well and have been vocal about it in the past. He has all the tools to be a very good player in the NFL even taking his legs out of the equation. On top of that, he has the right mentality as a passer and is a great kid with phenomenal intangibles.


All of this applies to me as well.
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I always liked Griffin in high school but once I read this I really had a better appreciation for his work ethic.

http://www.statesman.com/sports/cont...05texfoot.html

Every night around 7 p.m., the red hazard lights on the sport-utility vehicle blinked along FM 116, a rural road in Copperas Cove, as cars passed by with caution.
About 100 meters in front of the car was a kid, running on the shoulder of the road as hard and as fast as possible.
The hill at that stretch of the road was about 800 meters long and perfect for training.
And that's where, after football practice, after a long day of school, studying and hard work, Robert Griffin went the extra mile.
It was dark and dangerous and difficult.
Griffin, the freshman quarterback of the Baylor Bears, enjoyed every minute.
"That's what I always remember about Robert," Copperas Cove coach Jack Welch said. "After practice, when everybody else was home eating dinner and showering, he would be running up and down that hill with his parents in the car behind him. He was still training. He always outworked everybody."
Griffin — a former high school star who led the Bulldawgs to back-to-back Class 4A runner-up finishes — is now leading Baylor , in his first year on campus. He enters Saturday's game against No. 5 Texas as the top freshman quarterback in the country.
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^^^This.

That's the kind of mental focus it takes to be successful in the NFL for a QB.
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I would be OK with the Seahawks drafting Griffin if they don't get Luck. I'd rather Griffin than Barkley.
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He got hurt and red-shirted one year, can't remember which it was. Kid has always been a baller from the first snap at Baylor.
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He lost his second year to injury. IIRC he laready has his degree.

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Which he got a year early anyway. Just more evidence to how impressive a kid he is.
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I love RG3. He's a QB who could also run, not a runner who thinks he can pass.
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Soooooooo is he gone or not after this season?
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He's on track to earn his Masters this spring, and has said that if he comes back for his last year of eligibility, he's going to enroll in law school.

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You guys will hate him once the Cowboys draft him.


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I don't see the first round hype with him. His athleticism is over-rated (he's a long strider) and his accuracy is hit or miss.

edit: While he may not be that "typical athletic QB", he struggles from the same things they do. Poor mechanics and Poor accuracy.
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I don't see the first round hype with him. His athleticism is over-rated (he's a long strider) and his accuracy is hit or miss.

edit: While he may not be that "typical athletic QB", he struggles from the same things they do. Poor mechanics and Poor accuracy.
I'm not sure you can overrate his athletic ability. He's an Olympic caliber athlete, long strider or not.

He's also completing 85% of his passes right now. Gimmick offense, level of competition...sure. But that's impressive no matter which way you slice it. It's not like it's all easy throws. I've seen him complete back shoulder lasers, position balls in the right place on the sideline, and just rape on the deep ball.

I just don't see mechanical and accuracy issues like some do. Even still, those things don't keep you out of the first round anymore. See Blaine Gabbert. He's got ridiculous upside and top notch intangibles on top of it. That's generally a winning combination, even with some rawness. He's nowhere near as raw as some people think though.
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IMO if you liked Newton/Locker/Gabbert, I don't see why an NFL team wouldn't head over heels for the chance to draft Griffin.

I'm at the point if a guy looks like he can pass in college and appears to have good arm strength, I'm assuming his throwing skillset translates to the NFL.

I see plenty of velocity and accuracy when RGIII throws the football. His intangibles are pure Eagle Scout and I love his deep ball accuracy.
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IMO if you liked Newton/Locker/Gabbert, I don't see why an NFL team wouldn't head over heels for the chance to draft Griffin.

I'm at the point if a guy looks like he can pass in college and appears to have good arm strength, I'm assuming his throwing skillset translates to the NFL.

I see plenty of velocity and accuracy when RGIII throws the football. His intangibles are pure Eagle Scout and I love his deep ball accuracy.
I do NOT love the deep ball accuracy. I love the WRs adjusting to them. He consistently overthrows or underthrows his receivers, and they make the catch anyway. There is a reason Kendall Wright is on Scott's HOT list.

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