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Old 12-22-2011, 03:06 PM    (permalink
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It's NC or bust this year...
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WOWWWWWW

Did not see that coming. I hope it works out for him. Too bad, I was looking forward to seeing him next year in the NFL.
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Why did you do this, Matt? You could have been a Brown!
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RGIII gonna get PAIDDDDD.

Top 10 pick for sure now.
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Top 10 pick for sure now.
Top 5 I reckon. Maybe even top 3 with a team trading up (and the Rams moving down).
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Top 10 pick for sure now.
Was there any ever doubt about this? He would of probably been the 2nd QB taken regardless.
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Was there any ever doubt about this? He would of probably been the 2nd QB taken regardless.
I think you just contradicted yourself o_O
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You would prefer the 28 year old rookie and the noodle arm low ceiling Kellen Moore over high potential guys like Foles and Tannehill?
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Yep, and I stand by it.. Good QBs don't lose (Moore) and as far as Weeden, you have to like his skill set over Foles and Tannehill. Foles is Kyle Orton-type decent. Tannehill took a HUGE drop in my opinion this year because of how he performed in pressure situations during big games.

So, yep, I'll take Noodle-Arm Kellen Moore.. I'll put him in a system that suits his skill set. Straight West Coast offense. Classic West Coast too. I wouldn't have him in a Spread-type West Coast (Colt McCoy). At least I know he wouldn't crumble under pressure and wouldn't make dumb decisions with the football. Moore has OUTSTANDING football acumen & I.Q. and uses it in games... not chalkboard acumen & I.Q. like Gabbert & Ponder.

And honestly, the only thing knocking Weeden is his age as a rookie (although it shouldn't).
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Next year has the potential to be both really good...and really weird.

This does hurt him a bit. I never really bought into Barkley as a top ten pick in this climate and I'm not sure I do next year either. He'll enter the year as the clear cut number one guy(assuming Griffin decides to come out), but he'll have to deal with guys who have better physical tools than him having potential breakout seasons and then doing what he didn't; strike while the irons hot.

Barkley's game is built on polish, not potential. Those guys have a tendency to be devalued as commodities the longer you have to look at them, with the rare exception of someone special like Luck. He is going to be murdered around here next year for his receivers and arm strength....and I don't think that those are totally unfair knocks. But ultimately, I can't see him dropping much lower than the 15-20 range. So if you thought he was a top five type pick this year, then yeah, he's taking a dive....but I'm really not sure how realistic that was in the first place. He would have been a fairly safe bet to go in the top ten overall, but it would have really come down to a coin flip and team to team thing between he and Griffin within those picks and it's not out of the question that he could have fallen a bit this year even.

Wilson and Bray are two guys I could see passing him assuming they have good years. Wilson is really under the radar as a prospect and is a lot more talented than people realize. The receivers he's throwing to right now are as good as a bunch as it gets in the country, but with the two biggest names from that group graduating, he'll have a real good chance to prove himself. Bray is probably the best pure thrower of the football in the past few draft classes. There's concerns about his weight, but his arm strength, mechanics, and overall feel for the pro-style passing game are top notch. He needs to have a big year and stay healthy, but out of all the guys available next year, I would bet on him having the best NFL career. He's a potential franchise quarterback...and I mean that in the top 10 quarterback/playoff contender year in year out kind of way, not the "he could start on most teams" definition we seem to go by these days.
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Next year has the potential to be both really good...and really weird.

This does hurt him a bit. I never really bought into Barkley as a top ten pick in this climate and I'm not sure I do next year either. He'll enter the year as the clear cut number one guy(assuming Griffin decides to come out), but he'll have to deal with guys who have better physical tools than him having potential breakout seasons and then doing what he didn't; strike while the irons hot.

Barkley's game is built on polish, not potential. Those guys have a tendency to be devalued as commodities the longer you have to look at them, with the rare exception of someone special like Luck. He is going to be murdered around here next year for his receivers and arm strength....and I don't think that those are totally unfair knocks. But ultimately, I can't see him dropping much lower than the 15-20 range. So if you thought he was a top five type pick this year, then yeah, he's taking a dive....but I'm really not sure how realistic that was in the first place. He would have been a fairly safe bet to go in the top ten overall, but it would have really come down to a coin flip and team to team thing between he and Griffin within those picks and it's not out of the question that he could have fallen a bit this year even.

Wilson and Bray are two guys I could see passing him assuming they have good years. Wilson is really under the radar as a prospect and is a lot more talented than people realize. The receivers he's throwing to right now are as good as a bunch as it gets in the country, but with the two biggest names from that group graduating, he'll have a real good chance to prove himself. Bray is probably the best pure thrower of the football in the past few draft classes. There's concerns about his weight, but his arm strength, mechanics, and overall feel for the pro-style passing game are top notch. He needs to have a big year and stay healthy, but out of all the guys available next year, I would bet on him having the best NFL career. He's a potential franchise quarterback...and I mean that in the top 10 quarterback/playoff contender year in year out kind of way, not the "he could start on most teams" definition we seem to go by these days.
Duuuude...don't even get me started on this.
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http://eye-on-collegefootball.blogs....56338/33993454

Here's the link. Wow.
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Didn't criticise Locker when he decided to stay, just hope it works out for him. Barkley has to be the clear favorite to go #1 next year.
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Awesome for USC. Crappy for NFL teams looking for a QB.
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I assume you think he's making a terrible decision like Locker did...
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What does their football schedule look like next year? How strong will oregon be?
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What does their football schedule look like next year? How strong will oregon be?
Looks soft to me and the Oregon game is in L.A., so the stage is set for a big year.
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Thinking about the Rams sitting at #3 (assuming the Vikes take Matt Kalil). They could be offered a bounty of picks from a team looking to trade up for RG3 in what is now a two QB draft.
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Awesome for USC. Crappy for NFL teams looking for a QB.
Awesome for Robert Woods. first WR next year?
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Awesome for Robert Woods. first WR next year?
That was going to happen regardless.
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