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Old 01-05-2012, 12:08 PM    (permalink
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If Bacarri Rambo declares for the draft what round are we looking at? 2-3? I am really high on this kid and I think I would have to put him 2nd behind only Mark Barron in the safety ranks. What does everyone think about Rambo? I want his jersey just for the Rambo name plate!!!
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I'd like to see him end up with the Bengals if he does go pro. I think he can be a success in the NFL. From what little I know he seems to have all the skills of a quality safety. He may never be an all time great but very servicable.
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His stock is on the rise, may be a potential late 2nd/3rd type prospect. Idk if he declares though...
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His stock is on the rise, may be a potential late 2nd/3rd type prospect. Idk if he declares though...
That's ridiculous. The only strong safety to even hold a candle to him is Barron, and Rambo has far more potential than Barron ever will. He got a draft grade from the advisory board that said 3rd round. Whatever. This kid hits the combine and he's gonna blow everyone up. And his video speaks for itself. He's productive, fearless, smart, and has limitless potential. Someone always takes the mantle of first round safety...and I think this kid could do it.

He demolishes anyone that tries to catch a ball near him and he's a safety that can ACTUALLY catch. He should ignore that advisory letter and declare. He'll be drafted in the top 30.
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That's ridiculous. The only strong safety to even hold a candle to him is Barron, and Rambo has far more potential than Barron ever will. He got a draft grade from the advisory board that said 3rd round. Whatever. This kid hits the combine and he's gonna blow everyone up. And his video speaks for itself. He's productive, fearless, smart, and has limitless potential. Someone always takes the mantle of first round safety...and I think this kid could do it.

He demolishes anyone that tries to catch a ball near him and he's a safety that can ACTUALLY catch. He should ignore that advisory letter and declare. He'll be drafted in the top 30.
The problem isn't ability, it's the position he plays. Strong Safety, especially now with the new rookie wage scale, is not a position that really fits a first round value very often. Elite FS can fit into the first for sure, but only room for elites now.

So, you shouldn't get so upset with a 3rd round grade on a very good strong safety. He's not elite, I mean I like what I saw of him, but given the position he plays, and his lack of elite status at this point, puts him into the late second early 3rd for me, and I think that grade is fair.
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The problem isn't ability, it's the position he plays. Strong Safety, especially now with the new rookie wage scale, is not a position that really fits a first round value very often. Elite FS can fit into the first for sure, but only room for elites now.

So, you shouldn't get so upset with a 3rd round grade on a very good strong safety. He's not elite, I mean I like what I saw of him, but given the position he plays, and his lack of elite status at this point, puts him into the late second early 3rd for me, and I think that grade is fair.
That would be fine by me because the Bengals have a huge need at SS and I don't want to spend a first round pick on one. I would take Rambo at the end of round 2 in a heart beat.
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That would be fine by me because the Bengals have a huge need at SS and I don't want to spend a first round pick on one. I would take Rambo at the end of round 2 in a heart beat.
I would take him in Atlanta as well and see if we can move William Moore over to FS in our scheme anyway.
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The problem isn't ability, it's the position he plays. Strong Safety, especially now with the new rookie wage scale, is not a position that really fits a first round value very often. Elite FS can fit into the first for sure, but only room for elites now.

So, you shouldn't get so upset with a 3rd round grade on a very good strong safety. He's not elite, I mean I like what I saw of him, but given the position he plays, and his lack of elite status at this point, puts him into the late second early 3rd for me, and I think that grade is fair.
I guess my point is, its just a difference of opinion. I think he's elite. Somewhere between Quintin Mikell and Troy P.
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I guess my point is, its just a difference of opinion. I think he's elite. Somewhere between Quintin Mikell and Troy P.
Wow, that's high praise. I guess the point I'm making is that it's not that egregious for him to be a late 2nd early 3rd guy based on his position and his lack of actual production this point.

Talent and potential is a major issue with the draft. Sort of like I've heard about coaches telling players that their potential is going to get them fired. There's a reason guys like Victor Cruz and Marques Colston go undrafted. I don't know why, but it's still an inexact science =)
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Rambo is the kind of prospect that is a perfect 2nd round draft pick that should start for a number of years. He has been productive in the sec with enough size and speed. He is a playmaker with no major red flags or issues and I think he will end up going pro.
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Rambo is the kind of prospect that is a perfect 2nd round draft pick that should start for a number of years. He has been productive in the sec with enough size and speed. He is a playmaker with no major red flags or issues and I think he will end up going to the Bengals.
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The bengals do like picking players from UGA so thats possible. Hows Clint Boling doing?
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If he kicks ass at the combine, I wouldnt hate him with our 2nd 1st rounder.
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I love this time of year when the previously-underrated guys start coming out of the woodwork. Until this week I didn't know much about Bacarri Rambo or Fletcher Cox. Can't wait to see who pops up on my personal radar next.

As it is, Rambo seems like a good fit for the Colts at 2:1. We've needed a Bob Sanders replacement for a long time.
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He would be terrible for you.
Let it go.
Next.

(I made a Rambo thread like 2-3 weeks ago, y'all late to the party)
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He needs to get stronger.
The potential is there for sure. He just lacks the strength at the point of attack right now.

I wouldnt pass on DeCastro/Glenn because of him, but I certainly wouldnt spend a late pick on another guard.
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He needs to get stronger.
The potential is there for sure. He just lacks the strength at the point of attack right now.

I wouldnt pass on DeCastro/Glenn because of him, but I certainly wouldnt spend a late pick on another guard.
Depends on type of guard it is in my opinion. Boling looks like he has the potential to possibly start at LG which is the more finesse, pulling guard guy on the offense. We've always wanted a big tough road grader type RG and Boling will never be that guy.

Otis Hudson seems to be the developmental RG and Boling the devy LG.
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Here's what I don't get. No one eligable, to my recollection, put up numbers comparable like Rambo did this year. I just don't see what he thinks a senior year would do for him. Its obvious he's a talent and a beast. Might as well just come out this year and get paid.

Tackles: 55
TFL: 1
Sacks: 0
Ints: 8
PD: 8

Compared to Mark Barron (Top ranked SS - 1st/2nd rounder)
Tackles: 64
TFL: 4
Sacks: 0
Ints: 2
PD: 5

I just don't get it. Bacarri is a much better athlete than Barron is. Barron's a great in the box safety, but I wouldn't trust him to cover my niece. Rambo is the best of both, the numbers prove it, AND he's younger. *headshake*
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Rambo's a ball hawking safety and nothing more. His runs support is absolutely laughable.

Mark Barron is just the opposite, great in the box, but his coverage skills and angles leave much to be desired.
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Mark Barron is just the opposite, great in the box, but his coverage skills and angles leave much to be desired.
Did you only watch Rambo this year? Because in the past he was pretty much regarded as simply an in-the-box safety that was a very hard hitter.
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Umm...is that how you regard him?
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Umm...is that how you regard him?
I used WAS and regard-ED. Meaning coming into this year. And no, it wasn't just me.

Rambo was impressive as a sophomore but I really think he could blow up as a junior because he has good size, speed and he hits like a freight train. He really laid some people out as a sophomore, and while he does that a bit too much (going for the big hit instead of wrapping up) he still is a pretty good tackler and run defender. I want to see more from him in coverage, as I am not sold on him in coverage and his ball skills are lacking despite his 3 INTís and pass break-ups.
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Did you only watch Rambo this year? Because in the past he was pretty much regarded as simply an in-the-box safety that was a very hard hitter.

He's been playing since 2009. Georgia plays way too many games on t.v. to watch a guy play only one year. I've just seen him try to arm tackle too many RBs and WRs only to come up empty handed. It's like he's scared he's going to get hurt. I just keep seeing visions of him attempting to tackle Lattimore like he was scared of a big hit coming from a guy who knew there was going to be contact.
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