Randy Moss vs Calvin Johnson

Brothgar · 03-13-2012, 08:45 PM

Yes may be a lame topic but I have been having this debate with another Lions fan for a good week now.
Who is the better football player?

What player was best in their prime?

Megatron

or

Randy "Strait Cash Homie" Moss

Rosebud · 03-13-2012, 08:49 PM

right now or in their primes? Cause it's not really close in either case.

Brothgar · 03-13-2012, 08:49 PM

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right now or in their primes? Cause it's not really close in either case.

Has to be primes.

Rosebud · 03-13-2012, 11:38 PM

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Has to be primes.

Well then it's easily Randy Moss.

niel89 · 03-13-2012, 08:50 PM

CJ now, but Moss in his prime. Moss at his best was the most dominant WR ever. Not the best WR but the most dominant at his peak.

mqtirishfan · 03-13-2012, 08:50 PM

Moss was better right away than Johnson, but Johnson is just now hitting his prime. If last season was any indication, Johnson is probably going to be every bit as good as Moss was, if not better.

Complex · 03-13-2012, 09:05 PM

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Moss was better right away than Johnson, but Johnson is just now hitting his prime. If last season was any indication, Johnson is probably going to be every bit as good as Moss was, if not better.

I wonder how many TDs Moss would of had last season since most teams decided not to play defense last year.

Brothgar · 03-13-2012, 08:51 PM

I'd still rather have Calvin on my team. Randy is too inconsistent. Quits on his team too much.

Taber21 · 03-13-2012, 08:59 PM

If the question is just "Who is/was better in their primes" it has to be Randy.

Nalej · 03-13-2012, 09:03 PM

Randy "Take the top off the defense" Moss. Easy.

Jvig43 · 03-13-2012, 09:06 PM

Moss changed how teams play defense. Straight cash homie.

TACKLE · 03-13-2012, 09:08 PM

This looks an awful lot to me like a JMike-esque attempt at making a thread to try to get other people to hype a player on your favorite team.

Brothgar · 03-13-2012, 09:39 PM

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This looks an awful lot to me like a JMike-esque attempt at making a thread to try to get other people to hype a player on your favorite team.

It is but at least I'm willing to admit it and I'm slightly ashamed of myself

descendency · 03-13-2012, 10:00 PM

In his prime, Randy Moss was unstoppable.

Megatron may be better, but Randy is Randy.

Ness · 03-13-2012, 10:23 PM

I always loved seeing him burn Darren Sharper, Al Harris, and Mike McKenzie.

Brothgar · 03-13-2012, 11:43 PM

[blindhomerism] Has Calvin even reached his prime yet? [/blindhomerism]

Rosebud · 03-13-2012, 11:47 PM

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[blindhomerism] Has Calvin even reached his prime yet? [/blindhomerism]

And if Calvin ever becomes better than Randy then this thread would have merit, but so far it has not and while there's plenty of reason to think CJ could improve, it also wouldn't shock me if he and Stafford never replicate the productivity they had this season for any of a thousand different reasons.

Jvig43 · 03-13-2012, 11:45 PM

Moss was still way more unstoppable even if we compare their early years. It's Moss dude.

K Train · 03-13-2012, 11:47 PM

i kinda like what calvin brings more as far as size and being a better team mate, i actually love randy moss but he has thrown in the towel quite a bit

calvin isnt far from unstoppable

Saints-Tigers · 03-14-2012, 12:01 AM

Calvin can get past just about anyone at any time.

Randy could get past anyone, any time.

FUNBUNCHER · 03-14-2012, 12:57 AM

I won't diss Moss but his personality is a big turn off.

If either catches the ball behind any corner it's a quick six.
Size and strength allow CJ to do some things that Randy couldn't like break tackles. But Moss was still quicker and a tick faster than Megatron.

I think people forget that although Randy Moss was 6'4, he had the quickness and footspeed of a six foot slot WR. He left a lot of people grasping air with his lateral movement, and his vertical speed...@!

Honestly I see more in common between TO and Megatron in their primes than Moss and Calvin Johnson. It's hard to compare anyone to Moss physically.

Rosebud · 03-14-2012, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by FUNBUNCHER

I won't diss Moss but his personality is a big turn off.

If either catches the ball behind any corner it's a quick six.
Size and strength allow CJ to do some things that Randy couldn't like break tackles. But Moss was still quicker and a tick faster than Megatron.

I think people forget that although Randy Moss was 6'4, he had the quickness and footspeed of a six foot slot WR. He left a lot of people grasping air with his lateral movement, and his vertical speed...@!

Honestly I see more in common between TO and Megatron in their primes than Moss and Calvin Johnson. It's hard to compare anyone to Moss physically.

You're hinting at another aspect of Randy's game that gets over looked because there were routes he just didn't run, but Randy was a brilliant route runner with the ones he did. He was just amazing at using his body position to set CBs up before turning on the jets and leaving them in his dust. The man was also a really smart football player which is why he was so amazing running the Pats option-heavy route-tree.

descendency · 03-14-2012, 01:32 AM

3 Jets can't stop Randy:

Halsey · 03-14-2012, 03:30 AM

Jerry Rice

yo123 · 03-14-2012, 03:38 AM

The only thread of Randy vs. anyone that has any merit is Randy vs. Jerry. Moss vs. Calvin Johnson? Seriously? Were you born in the 2000's?