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Source: Ed Werder (quote from Rotoworld)

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ESPN's Ed Werder reports the Cowboys have begun "very preliminary" extension talks with Tony Romo.
It was the Cowboys, not Romo's camp, that initiated the discussions. The six-year, $67.4 million deal signed by Romo in October of 2007 expires after the 2013 season. While there's been speculation that Dallas would turn to the draft to find Romo's successor next offseason, it has always made more sense to recommit to one of the NFL's top-10 quarterbacks. Romo is seen as a flawed signal-caller because his biggest flops have come on the national stage, but his winning percentage and passing statistics compare favorably to all but the elite quarterbacks in the NFL. He turns 33 next April.
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/2730/tony-romo

How much is Romo worth? Take a look at some relevant statistics:

48-30 career record (averages 9.8 wins, 6.2 losses per season)
13 4th-quarter comebacks, 14 game-winning drives
1-3 record over three playoff appearances: 2006, 2007, 2009

16-game averages: 4337 yards (64.6%), 31 TD, 15 INT, 8.1 YPA, 97.3 QBR
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For comparison, here's Matt Schaub's 16-game averages with Houston (excludes two starts for Falcons):

33-32 record (averages 8.1 wins, 7.9 losses per season)
Seven fourth-quarter comebacks, 10 game-winning drives
No playoff appearances

16-game averages: 4226 yards (65.2%), 23 TD, 13 INT, 8.0 YPA, 94.1 rating

Schaub's contract: five years, $66.15 million with $29.15 million guaranteed

Also worth noting: Schaub is one year younger than Romo.
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Not too shabby. I never understood why some Cowboy fans wanted to move on from Romo. You don't find that kind of production on the street.
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Not too shabby. I never understood why some Cowboy fans wanted to move on from Romo. You don't find that kind of production on the street.
they kind of did lol
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Even stranger: Peyton Manning's averages:

4216 yards (65.0%), 31 TD, 15 INT, 7.6 YPA, 95.0 rating

And Romo's again:

4337 yards (64.6%), 31 TD, 15 INT, 8.1 YPA, 97.3 QBR
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Even stranger: Peyton Manning's averages:

4216 yards (65.0%), 31 TD, 15 INT, 7.6 YPA, 95.0 rating

And Romo's again:

4337 yards (64.6%), 31 TD, 15 INT, 8.1 YPA, 97.3 QBR
To be fair the one BIG knock still on Romo is he struggles in big games down the stretch.

Look at roethlisbuerger. His stats won't jump out at you but he 'll win you those big playoff games.

That should come into play. IMO
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wasnt that the big knock on peyton at romos age?
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This isn't really relevant, but here's how I'm feeling about QB rankings at this point, loosely grouped into tiers.

Cream of the crop

1. Aaron Rodgers
2. Tom Brady
3. Peyton Manning
4. Drew Brees

Lords of the rings

5. Eli Manning
6. Ben Roethlisberger

Could lose championship virginity soon

7. Philip Rivers
8. Tony Romo
9. Michael Vick
10. Joe Flacco
11. Matt Ryan
12. Cam Newton
13. Matthew Stafford
14. Matt Schaub

The future

15. Robert Griffin III
16. Andrew Luck

Just don't mess this up for me

17. Alex Smith
18. Jay Cutler
19. Josh Freeman

This is why we can't have nice things

20. Jake Locker
21. Andy Dalton
22. Mark Sanchez
23. Matt Cassel
24. Sam Bradford
25. Ryan Fitzpatrick

At least they're not in the final tier

26. Carson Palmer
27. Christian Ponder
28. Russell Wilson

Enjoy your top ten picks

29. Blaine Gabbert
30. Ryan Tannehill
31. Kevin Kolb
32. Brandon Weeden
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This isn't really relevant, but here's how I'm feeling about QB rankings at this point, loosely grouped into tiers.

Cream of the crop

1. Aaron Rodgers
2. Tom Brady
3. Peyton Manning
4. Drew Brees

Lords of the rings

5. Eli Manning
6. Ben Roethlisberger

Could lose championship virginity soon

7. Philip Rivers
8. Tony Romo
9. Michael Vick
10. Joe Flacco
11. Matt Ryan
12. Cam Newton
13. Matthew Stafford
14. Matt Schaub

The future

15. Robert Griffin III
16. Andrew Luck

Just don't mess this up for me

17. Alex Smith
18. Jay Cutler
19. Josh Freeman

This is why we can't have nice things

20. Jake Locker
21. Andy Dalton
22. Mark Sanchez
23. Matt Cassel
24. Sam Bradford
25. Ryan Fitzpatrick

At least they're not in the final tier

26. Carson Palmer
27. Christian Ponder
28. Russell Wilson

Enjoy your top ten picks

29. Blaine Gabbert
30. Ryan Tannehill
31. Kevin Kolb
32. Brandon Weeden
love the captions. I think we need to see more from a lot of guys, even thought i dont disagree with many but one guy in particular would be locker i think could jump up one or even into "the future"
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This isn't really relevant, but here's how I'm feeling about QB rankings at this point, loosely grouped into tiers.

Cream of the crop

1. Aaron Rodgers
2. Tom Brady
3. Peyton Manning
4. Drew Brees

Lords of the rings

5. Eli Manning
6. Ben Roethlisberger

Could lose championship virginity soon

7. Philip Rivers
8. Tony Romo
9. Michael Vick
10. Joe Flacco
11. Matt Ryan
12. Cam Newton
13. Matthew Stafford
14. Matt Schaub

The future

15. Robert Griffin III
16. Andrew Luck

Just don't mess this up for me

17. Alex Smith
18. Jay Cutler
19. Josh Freeman

This is why we can't have nice things

20. Jake Locker
21. Andy Dalton
22. Mark Sanchez
23. Matt Cassel
24. Sam Bradford
25. Ryan Fitzpatrick

At least they're not in the final tier

26. Carson Palmer
27. Christian Ponder
28. Russell Wilson

Enjoy your top ten picks

29. Blaine Gabbert
30. Ryan Tannehill
31. Kevin Kolb
32. Brandon Weeden
were you and I watching the same game? should be right above Weeden
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were you and I watching the same game? should be right above Weeden
Umm ok..
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At least they're not in the final tier

26. Carson Palmer
27. Christian Ponder
28. Russell Wilson
LOL at Carson Palmer in this tier. It's not like he had a QBR in the top 12 last season and starting this season. This just smacks of someone who only sees the ESPN highlights and Jamie Dukes' "analysis" on NFLN.
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LOL at Carson Palmer in this tier. It's not like he had a QBR in the top 12 last season and starting this season. This just smacks of someone who only sees the ESPN highlights and Jamie Dukes' "analysis" on NFLN.
He doesn't have a top 12 rating starting this season. Although his rating is above Rodgers.
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wasnt that the big knock on peyton at romos age?
Peyton was getting to title games. Romo has trouble with rd 1 and games late in reg season to get the cowboys to te playoffs.
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wasnt that the big knock on peyton at romos age?
Peyton won a Super Bowl though at age 30 I believe. I know Romo became a starter around 26, but he's getting up there. I think Romo can play until he's at least 37 barring some catastrophic injury.

In any case, Romo has never, ever been the problem in Dallas. The Cowboys have had other issues all over the past few years. The units that have not stepped include the running game (maybe that finally changes with Murray), the offensive line, and the secondary on defense.
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All he needs now is for the defense to carry him through the playoffs.
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and a running game.
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Living in Dallas, anytime I hear someone shittalk Romo, I want to smack them. I think half the league would like him as their starter.
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This board usually doesn't like Romo this much...

Anyways, I think Romo is a good QB and the best option the Cowboys will have for the next 5-8 years. He's still never been relevant to the Superbowl though, even if it's "not his fault".

Those statements are true for Cutler as well, which means the two are roughly in the same boat. Anyone could argue that Cutler gives the Bears just as much of a chance at winning it all as Romo does for the Cowboys.
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I never understood the **** Romo gets. He is no Peyton or Brady, but he is still a pretty good quarterback. Who could the Cowboys realistically get who would better than him, and at what price?
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I never understood the **** Romo gets. He is no Peyton or Brady, but he is still a pretty good quarterback. Who could the Cowboys realistically get who would better than him, and at what price?
No one. The Cowboys should ride Romo until they can't anymore. Unless they want to go back to the Drew Henson days.
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No one. The Cowboys should ride Romo until they can't anymore. Unless they want to go back to the Drew Henson days.
I would'nt say Drew Henson had "days" in Dallas. Now if you want to say Quincy Carter or Chad Hutchinson days, then we're getting somewhere.
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I like Romo despite the hate he gets I'd take him over just about everyone in that 'championship virginity' tier.
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I think you're underselling Cutler.

I do think Romo belongs in that 2nd tier of QBs. I am not a Romo fan but I'll admit the guy will put up nice numbers.
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