Young Guns Pt. 2: Luck, RG3, Newton, Locker, Dalton, Ponder, Gabbert

prock · 09-23-2012, 02:01 PM

Obviously Luck, RG3, and Newton will get all the votes here, but we should get a thread to talk about this next generation of young quarterbacks. Think we got some good ones in this bunch.

Brent · 09-23-2012, 02:12 PM

how about this Brandon Weeden kid? Browns look set for a long time.

bucfan12 · 09-23-2012, 02:43 PM

1.Luck
2. RG III
3. Ponder
4. Newton
5. Dalton
6.Gabbert
7. Locker

The Alex · 09-23-2012, 02:50 PM

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6. Gabbert
7. Locker

Bulldogs · 09-23-2012, 04:58 PM

1. Andrew Luck
2. Robert Griffin III
3. Cam Newton
4. Jake Locker
5. Christian Ponder
6. Andy Dalton
7. Blaine Gabbert

Raiderz4Life · 09-23-2012, 05:11 PM

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1. Andrew Luck
2. Robert Griffin III
3. Cam Newton
4. Jake Locker
5. Christian Ponder
6. Andy Dalton
7. Blaine Gabbert

ding ding ding ding we have a winner!!

Complex · 09-23-2012, 05:33 PM

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1. Andrew Luck
2. Robert Griffin III
3. Cam Newton
4. Jake Locker
5. Christian Ponder
6. Andy Dalton
7. Blaine Gabbert

Explain to me what RG3 and Luck have done better than Newton.Hell how are they better than Dalton?

Bulldogs · 09-23-2012, 05:36 PM

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Explain to me what RG3 and Luck have done better than Newton.

It's more predicting how they will end up than anything. If you don't think Luck and RGIII have tons of potential you're blind. It was also extremely close between Newton and RGIII for the #2 spot, they might be interchangeable to me.

Complex · 09-23-2012, 05:40 PM

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It's more predicting how they will end up than anything. If you don't think Luck and RGIII have tons of potential you're blind. It was also extremely close between Newton and RGIII for the #2 spot, they might be interchangeable to me.

If your are talking about Potential than Newton has more potential than both of them.Locker has more potential than Luck and RG3. I didn't say didn't have potential, I said how are they better.

Pat Sims 90 · 09-23-2012, 05:38 PM

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Complex;3126339Hell how are they better than Dalton?

Because he is a Ginger?

Miaoww · 09-23-2012, 06:33 PM

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Explain to me what RG3 and Luck have done better than Newton.Hell how are they better than Dalton?

Duh, they're not named Cam Newton.

He's hated.....for reasons I can't fathom. At the moment he's the best guy on that list with Dalton (due to production rather than talent) a close second.

Bulldogs · 09-23-2012, 06:35 PM

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Duh, they're not named Cam Newton.

He's hated.....for reasons I can't fathom. At the moment he's the best guy on that list with Dalton (due to production rather than talent) a close second.

You're smoking something if you think Dalton is ahead of Luck and Griffin.

jrdrylie · 09-23-2012, 03:41 PM

Is Shaun Hill an option. Otherwise, give me Luck.

Complex · 09-23-2012, 04:00 PM

How is Ponder ahead of Newton?Hell of any of those guys.

bucfan12 · 09-23-2012, 04:03 PM

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How is Ponder ahead of Newton?Hell of any of those guys.

I'll back up any talk on Cam. Ponder is actually an NFL QB running an NFL offense. Newton isn't successful unless he's running it 70-80 yards out of that stupid Read-Option offense.

If he can be successful as a passer, then he can be up there. But right now, defenses are figuring out how to isolate and he's not responding.

Complex · 09-23-2012, 04:26 PM

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I'll back up any talk on Cam. Ponder is actually an NFL QB running an NFL offense. Newton isn't successful unless he's running it 70-80 yards out of that stupid Read-Option offense.

If he can be successful as a passer, then he can be up there. But right now, defenses are figuring out how to isolate and he's not responding.

I don't even know why I asked you.

Pat Sims 90 · 09-23-2012, 04:32 PM

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I don't even know why I asked you.

He had Josh Freeman high in the last one too. You can't really go by his list.

bucfan12 · 09-23-2012, 05:32 PM

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He had Josh Freeman high in the last one too. You can't really go by his list.

I think everyone had him on there last after 2010. Usually putting up elite numbers aren't a fluke. Guess I was wrong, but not the only one.

crossroads · 09-23-2012, 04:31 PM

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I'll back up any talk on Cam. Ponder is actually an NFL QB running an NFL offense. Newton isn't successful unless he's running it 70-80 yards out of that stupid Read-Option offense.

If he can be successful as a passer, then he can be up there. But right now, defenses are figuring out how to isolate and he's not responding.

Newton's run for 70 yards exactly once in his NFL career

Pat Sims 90 · 09-23-2012, 04:34 PM

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I'll back up any talk on Cam. Ponder is actually an NFL QB running an NFL offense. Newton isn't successful unless he's running it 70-80 yards out of that stupid Read-Option offense.

If he can be successful as a passer, then he can be up there. But right now, defenses are figuring out how to isolate and he's not responding.

If you actually watch Washington this year they are pretty much running the same offense for RG3 that Cam is running in Carolina, but RG3 some how is better?

bucfan12 · 09-23-2012, 05:31 PM

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If you actually watch Washington this year they are pretty much running the same offense for RG3 that Cam is running in Carolina, but RG3 some how is better?

Cam isn't responding to what the Defenses are doing and he's being shut down.

Haven't seen RG III exposed yet, plus RG III was a more accurate passer coming out as a prospect.

Complex · 09-23-2012, 06:01 PM

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Cam isn't responding to what the Defenses are doing and he's being shut down.

Haven't seen RG III exposed yet, plus RG III was a more accurate passer coming out as a prospect.

Yeah didn't hurt that he played in the big 12 where no one plays defense.

ShutDwn · 09-23-2012, 06:51 PM

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Cam isn't responding to what the Defenses are doing and he's being shut down.

Haven't seen RG III exposed yet, plus RG III was a more accurate passer coming out as a prospect.

You really wish this were true. He had a bad game on a four day week so he's being shut down? He completed 70% and 300-something and 250. The team also had the most 20+ yard gains before week three, and he's a huge part of that.

The INTs are too high right now but in terms of how he's looked on the field I'd say he's moving better in the pocket and he's been more accurate than last year. He should try to scramble more to help the team. They're really not good enough for him to avoid scrambling like he has been.

Can we stomp out the "sophomore slump" theories too? Statistics show that nearly all sophomore QBs improve in almost all phases. Yes, even Blaine Gabbert will improve.

The NFL is going to have a ridiculous amount of good QBs very soon.

21ST · 10-03-2012, 05:03 PM

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If you actually watch Washington this year they are pretty much running the same offense for RG3 that Cam is running in Carolina, but RG3 some how is better?

How do you figure that? Does cam ever even call his own plays???

Raiderz4Life · 09-23-2012, 04:13 PM

How in God's green earth is Locker last? BEHIND GABBERT!!!

That right there voids your entire list.