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Default Week 7-- Pittsburgh Steelers @ Cincinnati Bengals

Big time game against our mortal enemy on the big stage? Gotta be excited about this one. Could really help our playoff chances with a win against a quality opponent, and a division opponent no less.

Looks like Kirkpatrick actually has a chance to play although I'd be surprised if he does. Marvin seems to be really impressed with his recovery/work ethic which is very encouraging. Only thing that can really hold that guy back is his attitude and if his head is right he could be a HUGE boost to this D on the back end. Could even be a S for us down the line if need be.

Anyway, Defensively this is going to be a huge test for this squad. If we can stop Mendenhall and get to/contain Ben in the pocket it's going to go a long way in helping our chances. It worries me with some of their deep threats and that horse in the backfield but we seem to be improving in our run fits from week to week. We should be able to get a decent pass rush going against this line but whenever you're dealing with Ben that can be a double edged sword with his ability to move around and elude pressure. Going to be tough but I think we will be fine if we can avoid giving up those big plays.

Offensively we really just need to continue doing what we're doing except we have to be able to convert on third down with more regularity. The WRs have had some trouble getting open when AJ is taken out of the picture, hopefully they can do better in that department this week. Would like to see more of Mohamed Sanu and/or Marvin Jones if at all possible. Perhaps the rest Baby Hawk was given this week will help him as well.

I think the OL has looked rather good in pass pro especially with that young interior. A lot of the sacks we have been giving up seem to be coverage sacks more than anything else. Whitworth had probably his worst game since he was a pup last week. I know he's dealing with a knee problem but he is our rock and he must get back into his groove this week against James Harrison. They don't have Polamalu and their secondary isn't much so I expect AJ to have a field day. That said, we will need a consistent run game to exploit that mismatch.
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Big character game for us. I really want us to make a statement and erase any memories that O have from our last 2 games. Steelers are always tough as we all know.

Is this team really going to be about a 60% pass offense? I just dont know if this is by design or necessary because we cant mount a serious run threat? Is anyone thinking drafting a RB is a certainty with one of our top picks, I do.
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We need to come out and play offensively like we did against the Redskins. Ou offense has looked the best against them. At least the pass that is. We really need to establish the run and honestly with our backfield we arent going to. We need to do something different. Switch Hawkins in at RB sometimes and see if he can bust one. He has good field vision and can make moves. Maybe he can light a fire. Yea I know he is tiny, but he isnt much smaller than Darren Sproles...maybe he can be used in a Sproles like situation.

If this team isn't going to be using much run we need to properly utilize screens and short yardage plays more often. We need to be running RB's out in pass patterns and trying to get small yardage in order to open up big yardage plays.


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Is this team really going to be about a 60% pass offense? I just dont know if this is by design or necessary because we cant mount a serious run threat? Is anyone thinking drafting a RB is a certainty with one of our top picks, I do.
Possibility in drafting an RB. Also Free Agency could be a possibility. These are possible FA RB's in the offseason.

Felix Jones DAL
Rashard Jennings JAC
Reggie Bush MIA
Chris Ivory NO
Shonn Greene NYJ
Rashard Mendenhall PIT
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I fully expect Wallace or Brown to have a monster game. Which ever one Newman is covering.
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I fully expect Wallace or Brown to have a monster game. Which ever one Newman is covering.
Wouldn't a more accurate statement be "whichever one gets covered by our safeties"
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Wouldn't a more accurate statement be "whichever one gets covered by our safeties"
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That works too.
Newman hasn't been that bad for a NB who has been asked to be a #2.
Nelson and whomever has been at SS all year have been giving up big plays all year.
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Newman hasn't been that bad for a NB who has been asked to be a #2.
Nelson and whomever has been at SS all year have been giving up big plays all year.
Well when you have slow Nate Clements back there that has never played safety expect for this year, Dumbass Taylor Mays and Special Team Miles as the only options what do you expect.
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I wouldnt be opposed to running a defense with 1 safety and extra LB/CB if we have to lol.
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I wouldnt be opposed to running a defense with 1 safety and extra LB/CB if we have to lol.
Might as well just run the 3-3-5 since the Bengals hardly get pressure anyway and just use 1 safety and 4 corners.
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Might as well just run the 3-3-5 since the Bengals hardly get pressure anyway and just use 1 safety and 4 corners.
But we got a ton of sacks vs a guy who was retired last year :/
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But we got a ton of sacks vs a guy who was retired last year :/
That game made Michael Johnson a bunch of money. Some team will think he gets consistent pass rush. I just hope that team is not Cincinnati.
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That game made Michael Johnson a bunch of money. Some team will think he gets consistent pass rush. I just hope that team is not Cincinnati.
Dont worry. His being invisible every game since should have quelled such talk.
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Well Kirkpatrick and Allen again inactive tonight. I am glad I have Mike Wallace and Heath Miller on my fantasy team.
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**** this offense. Not even trying to throw more then a 5 yard pass.
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1st half was great until the final Steeler drive when our defense completely softened. Horrible offensive gameplan and Marvin's ineptitude to use his challenges ruined our chances in the 2nd half. Ugh.
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Hopefully someone hires Jay Gruden in the off season. Three straight weeks of crappy game plans.
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it isn't Gruden.
We dont have a RB who can do anything but between the tackles.
We dont have a WR who can get open that isn't AJ.
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it isn't Gruden.
We dont have a RB who can do anything but between the tackles.
We dont have a WR who can get open that isn't AJ.
Some of it is. You take no shots down field and basically let Pittsburgh play up on the line the entire game. Predicable playcalling does not help either when a majority of the time you just run it on 1st down.
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Some of it is. You take no shots down field and basically let Pittsburgh play up on the line the entire game.
There were no shots to take!
The safety lined up 20 yards deep right over AJ.
Not another WR on this roster can go deep. None.
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There were no shots to take!
The safety lined up 20 yards deep right over AJ.
Not another WR on this roster can go deep. None.
You have to least take some down the field just to keep the defense honest even if nothing is there.
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Thats like 3 or 4 straight games without a sack for Carlos Dunlap. For someone who gets to go up against the lesser of the two tackles and rarely gets chipped, he's really doing a great job (twice against rookies no less). 1 sack in 5 games whilst MJ had another tonight. Maybe we do need a DE, I just don't see MJ as this huge problem. Hell even Robert Geathers had a sack n Dunlap did not. Not to mention the fact that Carlos is generally **** against the run. The fact that Geathers even sees the field as much as he does at LDE is disconcerting. I love both MJ and 96 and think they can have a bright future but damn.

Anyway, almost every spot on this team besides WR1 and our two OTs could probably use an upgrade. We just suck plain and simple. Even Dalton is starting to worry me a bit.
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Thats like 3 or 4 straight games without a sack for Carlos Dunlap. For someone who gets to go up against the lesser of the two tackles and rarely gets chipped, he's really doing a great job (twice against rookies no less). 1 sack in 5 games whilst MJ had another tonight. Maybe we do need a DE, I just don't see MJ as this huge problem. Hell even Robert Geathers had a sack n Dunlap did not. Not to mention the fact that Carlos is generally **** against the run. The fact that Geathers even sees the field as much as he does at LDE is disconcerting. I love both MJ and 96 and think they can have a bright future but damn.

Anyway, almost every spot on this team besides WR1 and our two OTs could probably use an upgrade. We just suck plain and simple. Even Dalton is starting to worry me a bit.
The problem with Dalton is that Gresham is a ***** and we have no #2 right now. Teams key on AJ and no one else gets open.
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The back of of the defense is obviously the weakest part of that side of the ball. Offensively, we need to surround AJ with someone who can at least frighten the opposing defense to consider covering them. Without any other "threat," Green will be forever blanketed. We also need a RB that's worth a damn in the worst way.
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Even with the fact that he was blanketed all night I do think they still should've at least tried a few more shots down field to him. He might be the best Bengals player ever already (aside from Munoz) and we just could not get him the ball to save our lives. Its not like Pitt even has a very good secondary and taking a shot like that could at the very least draw a PI call that could get us going a little bit. This is part of the reason why I wanted to keep Jerome. It wouldn't have cost us much and say what you will about him but he at the very least can make a defense have to account for him with his speed.

Love Baby Hawk but he's not a deep threat, perhaps we have one in Marvin Jones but he went down unfortunately, Tate and Binns are just possession receivers, and for some reason we seem to hate to throw it to TEs in this offense. My only real gripe with Gruden's gameplan was his attempt to feature Ryan Whalen. Apparently Jones was supposed to get a lot more playing time, shame he was out because he can stretch the field if need be.

Soo frustrating right now because we all know that this is a very talented team but it just seems like they don't have that killer instinct like they showed glimpses of last year. The fact that we cannot stop the run up the middle because of Luga is just atrocious. With the deep and talented group we have up front(especially on the interior) stopping the run should be our bread and butter but its not. The Stillers were DEAD LAST in rushing coming into this game and they ran all over us with 3rd and 4th and 5th string RBs and a decimated OL. I feel like if Thomas Howard were still in play Maualuga would not see the field at all. Only good thing to come of this is that Vontaze Burfict has shown he can be a force at LB for us for the foreseeable future.
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