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Old 10-30-2012, 02:59 AM    (permalink
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Thought i'd compile a list of teams that will likely be firing their HC's and GM's after this year. After going through this list i realize there's likely to be a LOT of turnover. Here's what i see going down

Chiefs- GM Scott Pioli, HC Romeo Crennel

-This one is obvious. Haven't led for 1 second of regulation, going into the year with the QB situation as it was, and Pioli hiring Crennel based off of 3 decent games last year. Total rebuild is on the way in KC.

Panthers- GM Marty Hurney (already fired), HC Ron Rivera

-Hurney's draft classes have struggled to make an impact and he keeps trading future picks away (even their 2013 3rd rounder was traded to the 49ers for a 2012 4th). Rivera shows a lack of leadership, and his teams have lost so many close games. The Bears literally ran the same slant play over and over to drive down the field for a game-winning FG and there's basically a mutiny from Carolina's plays. Rivera is as good as gone.

Chargers- GM AJ Smith, HC Norv Turner

-Long overdue. Both barely kept their jobs last year, the Chargers still look bad and Rivers has regressed. Both are gone.

Jaguars- GM Gene Smith, HC Mike Mularkey

-This team looks bad week in and week out, and so does Gabbert. He has recently put together 2 decent to good games (although he was injured early against Oakland 2 weeks ago). Plain and simple, this Jaguars team may be one of the least talented in the NFL. Mularkey is a retread and gets caught up in the situation.

Titans- HC Mike Munchak

-Don't think their GM is in trouble (is it Ruston Webster or Mike Reinfeldt?). Don't think the Titans have a lot of talent anyways but i think they try to get an offensive HC to work with Jake Locker next year.

Browns- HC Pat Shurmur, GM Tom Heckert

-Ownership change, the team is pathetic every year, and the team president (Holmgren) is already fired. No brainer.

Bills- HC Chan Gailey, GM Buddy Nix

-They haven't taken the next step, no franchise QB, and Mario Williams may be one of the worst FA signings ever. No impact whatsoever.

Jets- GM Mike Tannebaum

-This Jets team has little productive talent, they're overstrapped financially with terrible deals with Holmes and Sanchez, and speaking of Sanchez, he's awful. I like Rex and think he's a good coach but this team has little talent. I think he gets a reprieve.

Eagles- Andy Reid (both HC and effectively GM)

-Reid wears both hats and his time is coming to an end. Just fired his DC and his D responded with their worst effort of the year. He's close to benching Vick. Expectations are high and the Eagles are just too mediocre. Playoffs or he's gone.

So, in summation, that's 9 teams- counting the Eagles, my best guess is 7 teams will totally rebuild with a new GM AND a new HC. Then add in other teams where 1 is likely to be fired while the other saves their job, for at least another year.

Save their job, enter the hot seat next year (no winning season- likely automatic firing) - Jason Garrett in Dallas, Ken Whisenhunt/Rod Graves in Arizona, Leslie Frazier in Minnesota, Pete Carroll in Seattle, Dennis Allen in Oakland (possibly), Marvin Lewis with the Bengals, and Rex Ryan with the Jets.

Thoughts on this list? Do you agree or disagree? Which teams do you think will turn over their FO/Coaching Staff this year?
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I'll just say the the most obvious is probably Smith and/or Turner. I'd be surprised if it wasn't both though. Even if they made the playoffs this season, I think they're both gone unless they get to the AFC Championship game. Not sure what could save them at this point.

I don't think the Titans are cutting ties with Munchak though. This is just his second season with the team and even though we live in the microwave era, a guy is usually going to get close to 3 years unless the team is just God-awful, and the Titans aren't that yet.
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Titans- HC Mike Munchak

-Don't think their GM is in trouble (is it Ruston Webster or Mike Reinfeldt?). Don't think the Titans have a lot of talent anyways but i think they try to get an offensive HC to work with Jake Locker next year.
Have to say I agree. Munch should just stay to coaching the defensive side of the ball.

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The Chiefs aren't in total rebuild mode, they're in total new coach/FO/QB mode.
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Titans aren't firing Munchak this year. And FYI, he and the FO have been more focused on offense in their 2 seasons here than Jeff Fisher was his entire coaching career combined.

Also, Webster is GM. Reinfeldt is President.
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I agree with you on Rex Ryan. The defense would be top 5 if he had the talent. The offense would pretty good a few years ago when they had Thomas Jones. Sanchez is an absolute bust and Holmes isn't the same player as he was in Pittsburgh.
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....plus he's been more injury prone in New York.
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....plus he's been more injury prone in New York.
Not true. Holmes has taken off plays and since getting his contract(He and Sanchez were very good in 2010) he has had some costly drops and fumbles as a Jet. He's also been a locker room brat.

Holmes has been bad as a Jet but its his own doing. He's become an albatross of a contract and because of the payday, he's stop caring.
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Not true. Holmes has taken off plays and since getting his contract(He and Sanchez were very good in 2010) he has had some costly drops and fumbles as a Jet. He's also been a locker room brat.

Holmes has been bad as a Jet but its his own doing. He's become an albatross of a contract and because of the payday, he's stop caring.
yeah, well he wasn't a headcase in Pittsburgh so much when he was winning division titles and Super Bowl MVPs. His statistical dropoff had more to do with Sanchez and that offense, not his ability...and his off character issues got out of hand when they struggled in New York.
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I could see Greg Roman as a solid fit in Cleveland. I thought the rumor was Cowher would be interested in the Carolina job cause he wants to stay close to home?
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During Thursday's embarrassing 27-10 home loss to the Colts, the Jacksonville Jaguars acted like they were rejecting a newly transplanted organ. Virtually every notable personnel move the team made this offseason produced a notably disappointing game. Veteran free agent wideout Laurent Robinson, already benched after signing a big deal this past offseason, fumbled a reception away to end a promising drive. Former Giants cornerback Aaron Ross was lost in coverage on a 41-yard bomb that set up a Colts touchdown. Franchise kicker Josh Scobee missed his first field goal of the year. Most disturbingly, wide receiver Justin Blackmon whom the Jaguars traded up to acquire with the fifth pick in this year's draft continued to exhibit a total inability to separate from pro coverage and become a playmaker in the passing game. Jacksonville threw the ball 47 times against a team whose starting cornerbacks were both inactive, and Blackmon mustered just three catches for 25 yards. At least third-round pick punter Bryan Anger had a good game.
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Not true. Holmes has taken off plays and since getting his contract(He and Sanchez were very good in 2010) he has had some costly drops and fumbles as a Jet. He's also been a locker room brat.

Holmes has been bad as a Jet but its his own doing. He's become an albatross of a contract and because of the payday, he's stop caring.
Always an excuse for Sanchez.
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they're both subpar. Keylime is just defending Santonio because he's from Ohio State.
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Always an excuse for Sanchez.
Always blaming Sanchez.

Why does Holmes not acting like a professional, and having drops/fumbles now suddenly fall solely on Mark Sanchez? What does Mark now need to be Holmes mother on the team?

To bring Keylime's quote into this.....outside of this being solely on Holmes, I do give the coaching staff, specifically Rex Ryan some blame too. Holmes was given a C on his chest to be a captain and he embarrassed himself in Miami, making a fool out of himself in the locker room leading Mason and Burress to rebel against the O-Line and much of the team among other stupid ****(Doing the Eagle celebration down multiple scores last year in Philly....this after fumbling the ball in the game). There comes a point and time where the coaches need to put a halt to this and not let this continuously happen. Sanchez may be the Quarterback but if he isn't able to be great on that field, he won't command the respect of someone like Holmes unlike someone like Rex Ryan whose a "Players coach". The Steelers are a much tighter group and don't let such nonsense like this make ways, which is why Holmes got dealt for a 5th round pick to the Jets when Holmes tested positive for marijuana. Its also why the Steelers win titles and the Jets do not. The Rooneys have and will always run their ship better than Woody Johnson...that's a pure fact.

Holmes was great in 2010 but after he got his ridiculous payday and celebrated it by drinking up a bottle, he along with his super bowl ring and "moment" could care less what happens to the team as long as he gets his stats. Its why he backed Sanchez over Tebow.....Holmes knows that Sanchez may not be great like Big Ben was for him but he also knows Tebow would do far worse for Holmes in the stat book.



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I just can't see Buffalo making a change this year, n not just because Ralph doesn't wanna have someone not to work for him. Nix has done a pretty good job building that team. That defense is just a couple pieces away from being elite and offensively their problems are that Fitz isn't a franchise QB and they don't have many reliable receivers other than Stevie and the running backs. But Nix has done well for them with the opportunities he's had, he's just gotta figure out how to find a franchise QB without a top 5 pick and fill out the depth in the receiving and pass rushing corps.'s and they could be real contenders in the AFC.
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Reid + Rivers would be a pretty good marriage offensively.
Reid is a better GM than coach as well. 2 birds with 1 stone.
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Cowher or Andy Reid makes so much sense for San Diego.
Cowher also makes some sense for Carolina.

But I would rather see the Chiefs get Reid and watch the Chargers end up with Diet Andy Reid (Marty Mornhinweg).
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Cowher also makes some sense for Carolina.

But I would rather see the Chiefs get Reid and watch the Chargers end up with Diet Andy Reid (Marty Mornhinweg).
I used to think Cowher would make a lot of sense for Carolina but I don't think there's any way in hell he wants to deal with Cam Newton's ego.

I love the thought of Cowher to the Browns.. that team is built for him and he could turn them around fast... but I don't know if he'd want to go against the Steelers in that division.
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Titans- HC Mike Munchak

-Don't think their GM is in trouble (is it Ruston Webster or Mike Reinfeldt?). Don't think the Titans have a lot of talent anyways but i think they try to get an offensive HC to work with Jake Locker next year.
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Have to say I agree. Munch should just stay to coaching the defensive side of the ball.
You guys do know that Munch is an offensive coach right ?
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You guys do know that Munch is an offensive coach right ?
Meant a coach with more QB coaching experience. Munch is an OL guy (and his OL can't run block at all ironically).
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You guys do know that Munch is an offensive coach right ?
UGH DREW WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL ME
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