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Notable first ballot nominees include Larry Allen, John Lynch, Warren Sapp, Michael Strahan, and Jon Ogden.

My prediction is:

Strahan
Ogden
Allen
Cris Carter
Charles Haley
Robert Griffin III

What do you guys think about this class?
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Wait, RG3 isnt in already? Horseshit.
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You forgot Colin Kaepernick and Russell Wilson.
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RG3 had to wait this long? But he's SO dynamic! He can pass AND run! Defenses can't gameplan for him! He's unstoppable! There shouldn't even need to be a ballott!
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Sapp won't be a 1st ballot HOFer. I don't think he's loved by the sportwriters.
Larry Allen should be 1st ballot. No Olineman wiped out DTs like Allen.
And the powers that be need to stop acting like Cris Carter didn't play in the NFL.
So much petty BS.
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Sapp won't be a 1st ballot HOFer. I don't think he's loved by the sportwriters.
Larry Allen should be 1st ballot. No Olineman wiped out DTs like Allen.
And the powers that be need to stop acting like Cris Carter didn't play in the NFL.
So much petty BS.
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I may be in the minority here, but I think Isaac Bruce gets in. He is third in yardage behind Rice and Owens; however, what stands out to me the most is that he is considered by many as one of the route runners of all-time. When you are an all-time great at something, that holds a lot of weight with me. It will likely take a while, but he eventually gets in IMO.

Same with Chris Carter and Tim Brown. Carter will probably make it the next two years. Much like Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce, Brown will take a while, but what people fail to realize is that he doubled as a dangerous punt returner.

Hines Ward will get in as well. His numbers may not be as good as many receivers, but like Bruce, he is considered an all-time great in a particular area: Blocking. He also had a history of playing well in the big games. Two Super Bowl rings also helps.
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RG3 had to wait this long? But he's SO dynamic! He can pass AND run! Defenses can't gameplan for him! He's unstoppable! There shouldn't even need to be a ballott!
There wasn't a ballot. They actually changed it to the RG3 of Fame... Everyone else's bust was transported to another broken down city to sit and rot due to the pure magnificence of his highness...
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All joking aside, I don't think Cris Carter gets in this year.
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I don't know how the HoF committee feels about first ballot OLmen, but Larry Allen definitely deserves it. Guy was dominant for so long and of course, he's got a ring, two all decade teams, 11 pro bowls and 7 all pros. Really hope he goes in. One of the scariest mofos to ever play for us.
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I still cannot believe Carter is not in it.
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From 1993-200-, Cris Carter had 8 consecutive 1,000 yard seasons, amassing 779 receptions, 9,456 yards and 90 touchdowns. A really strong run that appears to be HOF worthy. However...

1993 was the only year during that span that he did not have a 1,000 receiver opposite him.

From 1993-1995, Carter led his team in receiving yards. For the next 5 seasons, either Jake Reed or Randy Moss had more receiving yards than Carter.

During the 3-year span that Carter and Moss were teammates, Moss was clearly the more productive player, putting up 226/4,163/43 to Carter's 264/3,526/34.

So, while Carter was definitely a money player who was dependable and productive throughout his career, it is hard for me to call him a HOFer when, throughout many of his best years, he was arguably not even the best receiver on his team.
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From 1993-200-, Cris Carter had 8 consecutive 1,000 yard seasons, amassing 779 receptions, 9,456 yards and 90 touchdowns. A really strong run that appears to be HOF worthy. However...

1993 was the only year during that span that he did not have a 1,000 receiver opposite him.

From 1993-1995, Carter led his team in receiving yards. For the next 5 seasons, either Jake Reed or Randy Moss had more receiving yards than Carter.

During the 3-year span that Carter and Moss were teammates, Moss was clearly the more productive player, putting up 226/4,163/43 to Carter's 264/3,526/34.

So, while Carter was definitely a money player who was dependable and productive throughout his career, it is hard for me to call him a HOFer when, throughout many of his best years, he was arguably not even the best receiver on his team.
Carter was the best receiver on his team the majority of his career with the Vikings and even Eagles. Jake Reed was a good receiver in his own right, but Carter was better. He was better at getting open, better at being a threat downfield, a better boundary receiver, and has the best hands I've ever seen. Also, he was a lot better at getting into the endzone. Carter was a touchdown magnet and there is a reason why Carter is still being talked about to this day and Jake Reed isn't. A lot of people don't even know about Jake Reed, who never made a Pro Bowl or All Pro selection in his entire career.

Having another good receiver next to him is irrelevant to the individual's ability to perform. We shouldn't knock Julio Jones because he plays with Roddy White, and we shouldn't discount Reggie Wayne's career during the time he played with Marvin Harrison. If you watched Carter play you could see he was truly special.
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Maybe acting like a douchebag on ESPN has hurt his image with voters.
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Somebody (I think it might have been Peter King, but I'm not positive) said that a lot of the voters don't like WRs because they think that this "passing" thing is a gimmick and we're bound to go back to the run-first, run-second, run-third style of 1970s football.
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Wow. Strahan, Allen, Sapp & Ogden?

Strahan and Ogden should be a lock.

I view Sapp in the same light as Allen. Everyone knows both guys were great players on great teams that won Superbowls. But it's possible that they get burnt for some reason or another.
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I always thought of Sapp as a first-ballot HOFer. The guy is a douche. He always has been. He fell in the draft because, even as a child, he was a douche.

Still, Warren Sapp was absolutely dominant as an undertackle in that Tampa-2 defense.

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It's not that I don't think Sapp isn't 1st ballot worthy, but I don't think he can overcome the politics involved in HOF voting.

In his prime that guy could penetrate behind the LOS at will.
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Saying a WR is not better than Randy Moss is not a legit reason to leave someone out of the HoF...
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Saying a WR is not better than Randy Moss is not a legit reason to leave someone out of the HoF...
No...but saying that in 5 of his 8 most productive seasons he was not the most productive receiver on his team is. A HOFer, in my opinion, should be the top dog on his team always, at whatever position he plays, with the exception of early in his career and late in his career. Being the best #2 receiver in the league for a 5-year stretch will not do it. This is just my opinion. I just don't think he was ever the guy that teams really were scared of. He got his yards and his catches, and was a great red-zone receiver, but he was really just a steady Eddie.
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Will Shields.
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It's funny to me someone would call Cris Carter's HOF credentials into question because for a brief few years he played next to one of the top 5 WRs to ever play the game.

CC is a HOFer. There's no serious argument for him not to be enshrined.
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