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Old 12-12-2012, 09:42 PM    (permalink
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Default Is It Me Or Is This An Extremely Weak Draft Class?

I've really started to go through prospects and I'm struggling to find high level guys like we have had the past few years. Typically you have a few big time QB's, RB's and WR's but nobody has really done anything to separate themselves this year. I was always told the underclassmen make the draft, but I'm not really impressed with that group either. Obviously you have your guys like Clowney and Floyd, but I'm very unimpressed with this years talent pool. I think defensive lineman is a strength, but I wouldnt be surprised to see a few small school guys jump into the top rounds like Elon's Aaron Mellette.
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It's not at all. Just not top heavy, but I see a lot of depth and fine players who will be in that 4th-5th round range and contribute.
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I love the defensive front 7 players in this class.

For QBs, WRs, OTs, CBs, and other "money" positions, it's not so great. But for things like DL, LBs, interior OL, and Safeties it's quite a good group.
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Old 12-13-2012, 03:30 PM    (permalink
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I love the defensive front 7 players in this class.

For QBs, WRs, OTs, CBs, and other "money" positions, it's not so great. But for things like DL, LBs, interior OL, and Safeties it's quite a good group.
It has potential to be a very nice WR class....

Justin Hunter
Da'rick Rogers
Terrance Williams
Cordarrelle Patterson
Kennan Allen
Tavon Austin
DeAndre Hopkins
Robert Woods
Cobi Hamilton
Kenny Stills
Aaron Dodson
Ryan Swope
Markus Wheaton
Stedman Bailey

And then you got guys like Denard Robinson and Brandon Coleman assuming Coleman comes out.
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It has potential to be a very nice WR class....

Justin Hunter
Da'rick Rogers
Terrance Williams
Cordarrelle Patterson
Kennan Allen
Tavon Austin
DeAndre Hopkins
Robert Woods
Cobi Hamilton
Kenny Stills
Aaron Dodson
Ryan Swope
Markus Wheaton
Stedman Bailey

And then you got guys like Denard Robinson and Brandon Coleman assuming Coleman comes out.
That's drool worthy right there since I'm huge on wideouts. The Redskins better snag one of them or I'll be heated.
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That's drool worthy right there since I'm huge on wideouts. The Redskins better snag one of them or I'll be heated.
Pretty much how I feel with the Rams. I don't understand why most people think it's a weak receiver class.
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Pretty much how I feel with the Rams. I don't understand why most people think it's a weak receiver class.
I am really hoping the Rams do not draft a WR high this year. Not that I don't want to see them get more talented in that area, but I would like to see how Quick and Givens do in their second year before we go shopping again. Besides that, while there are a lot of talented receivers this year, the best receivers in college football (Watkins, Lee and Hill)(IMO) are all sophomores. If we take another receiver high we almost certainly would not take one of those guys in 2014. I wouldn't mind taking a gamble on a guy like Marquess Wilson in the 3rd or 4th round. He is clearly a 1st/2nd round talent that is almost sure to fall after the way he left the team this year. Just the kind of guy that Fisher loves to bring in.
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Pretty much how I feel with the Rams. I don't understand why most people think it's a weak receiver class.
I am really hoping the Rams do not draft a WR high this year. Not that I don't want to see them get more talented in that area, but I would like to see how Quick and Givens do in their second year before we go shopping again. Besides that, while there are a lot of talented receivers this year, the best receivers in college football (Watkins, Lee and Hill)(IMO) are all sophomores. If we take another receiver high we almost certainly would not take one of those guys in 2014. I wouldn't mind taking a gamble on a guy like Marquess Wilson in the 3rd or 4th round. He is clearly a 1st/2nd round talent that is almost sure to fall after the way he left the team this year. Just the kind of guy that Fisher loves to bring in.
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It has potential to be a very nice WR class....

Justin Hunter
Da'rick Rogers
Terrance Williams
Cordarrelle Patterson
Kennan Allen
Tavon Austin
DeAndre Hopkins
Robert Woods
Cobi Hamilton
Kenny Stills
Aaron Dodson
Ryan Swope
Markus Wheaton
Stedman Bailey

And then you got guys like Denard Robinson and Brandon Coleman assuming Coleman comes out.
As a Dolphins fan, this is quite a sexy list
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This Rams fan agrees. You guys and us both need a legit #1. I like Hunter, Patterson and Williams for the Rams with one of their 2 first rounders.
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Is it just me or does someone ask this every single year?
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I wouldn't be sir prized if he passed McCoy on the depth chart. I think he might have a better arm and accurate arm then him from the highlights I thought. He also got some wheels too help us prepare for QB's as Wilson , RG3 and other runners etc.
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Is it just me or does someone ask this every single year?
Ha my thoughts exactly - every draft usually has a couple a positions that really sticks out - this year its the OTs so it's not going to be a sexy draft like last year with Luck and Griffin taking the spotlight. This is a really nice and deep draft.
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Is it just me or does someone ask this every single year?
Not quite every year. Every once in a while we get a year with a bunch of really hyped prospects at the top of the draft and talk about "IS THIS THE BEST DRAFT EVER?!?!?" and sometimes those years turn out to be 2006.
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Not quite every year. Every once in a while we get a year with a bunch of really hyped prospects at the top of the draft and talk about "IS THIS THE BEST DRAFT EVER?!?!?" and sometimes those years turn out to be 2006.
The 2006 draft had so much glamor to it, it was almost sickening. All the college superstars from major programs really got the media hyping it up much more than other years. Bush, Young, Leinart, Hawk. How many All-Pro teams have those guys made?

My favorite part about that draft was watching all the ignoramus fans and media who probably actually watch about ten college football games a year get their panties in a bundle after the Texans made the obvious right choice in passing on the bum QBs and Reggie Bush.
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The 2006 draft had so much glamor to it, it was almost sickening. All the college superstars from major programs really got the media hyping it up much more than other years. Bush, Young, Leinart, Hawk. How many All-Pro teams have those guys made?

My favorite part about that draft was watching all the ignoramus fans and media who probably actually watch about ten college football games a year get their panties in a bundle after the Texans made the obvious right choice in passing on the bum QBs and Reggie Bush.
They probably should have taken Cutler, but overall I totally agree with you - especially about everyone freaking out on them passing on Bush/Young/Leinart. 2006 class was horrifically overrated.

This class is one of the deepest than I can remember, especially in the defensive front 7.
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The 2006 draft had so much glamor to it, it was almost sickening. All the college superstars from major programs really got the media hyping it up much more than other years. Bush, Young, Leinart, Hawk. How many All-Pro teams have those guys made?

My favorite part about that draft was watching all the ignoramus fans and media who probably actually watch about ten college football games a year get their panties in a bundle after the Texans made the obvious right choice in passing on the bum QBs and Reggie Bush.
I doubt we will ever again see a draft that was as hyped as 2006 was, and likewise as disappointing as 2006 was.

Of the top 16 only Ferguson, Hawk, Davis, Huff, and Ngata are still with the team that drafted them and of that set the only one who wasn't at least a little disappointing is Ngata.

I hope the lesson learned from that is "let's do better analysis" since in retrospect, even putting all the hype aside, that was a terrible draft at the top.
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Is it just me or does someone ask this every single year?
I didn't see too many people asking that last year. But that was the year of Andrew Luck and RG3. You are right; this does get asked most years.
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What is a weak draft class?

I remember everybody whining about how pitiful the 2009 draft class was and how great the 2010 class was, but if you compare them side-by-side three and four years into their career, do they really seem that different?
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I love the OT's and WR's all throughout rd 1 and 2
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If you are talking in terms of elite, once-every-decade type of prospects then yes.

It also isn't super sexy when it comes to the skill positions.

However, there is a lot of depth and if you are fan of the guys in the trenches it's great.
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If you are talking in terms of elite, once-every-decade type of prospects then yes.

It also isn't super sexy when it comes to the skill positions.

However, there is a lot of depth and if you are fan of the guys in the trenches it's great.
This pretty well sums it up, it is a great draft in the trenches, not sexy but still pretty solid.
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if you are fan of the guys in the trenches it's great.
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If you are talking in terms of elite, once-every-decade type of prospects then yes.

It also isn't super sexy when it comes to the skill positions.

However, there is a lot of depth and if you are fan of the guys in the trenches it's great.
So you're saying instead of a Victoria's Secret fashion show, the 2013 draft is a fashion show for plus-sized women?
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So you're saying instead of a Victoria's Secret fashion show, the 2013 draft is a fashion show for plus-sized women?
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