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The news around Tim Tebow has been quiet since he was cut by the Jets, but it’s been widely assumed that Tebow is still hoping to catch on with some NFL team. The people advising Tebow, however, may have come to the conclusion that there simply isn’t an NFL team willing to give him a shot.

David Fleming writes in ESPN the Magazine that members of Tebow’s camp are privately admitting that his NFL run is probably over.

Although Tebow did have some success as the Broncos’ starting quarterback, leading Denver to a playoff win after the 2011 season, Fleming quotes an unnamed scout as saying that even during his best run with the Broncos, the work he put on tape did nothing for NFL personnel people.

“He’s not a quarterback,” the scout said. “When you look at his run two years ago, when you watch the tape and break it down, he wasn’t really doing anything that impressive. He’s a tough guy, a great leader, a great person. But he isn’t a good enough quarterback to have all the distractions that come with him.”

Among the problems NFL teams have identified about Tebow, according to the report, are that he has a hard time remembering plays, he didn’t run the offense well and got the Broncos flagged for delay of game too often, he struggled to read defenses and he didn’t have the self-awareness to know what he wasn’t doing well and work on improving those issues.

There’s also, obviously, the fundamental issue of passing accuracy: Tebow’s career completion rate of 47.9 percent is way too low, and Fleming describes a scene in Broncos practice in which coach John Fox was aghast to see Tebow throw a pass so badly that it landed on the ground far in front of the intended receiver’s feet.

Add it all up, and no matter how exciting a season he had with the Broncos in 2011, Tebow just doesn’t look like an NFL quarterback. He and the people around him may be coming around to accepting that.
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All that is crap .

Report from NFL . Tebow won't end his career. so this is pointless ..

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...end-nfl-career
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All that is crap .

Report from NFL . Tebow won't end his career. so this is pointless ..

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You're right. I'm not ending my career as an astronaut. It's just NASA will never hire me to be an astronaut... Tebow will never sign with another team.
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He's so selfish he won't go play another position. What a douche.
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He's so selfish he won't go play another position. What a douche.
It has nothing to do with him. No NFL team wants to put up with a bench player/project while the media is a constant nuisance. It causes more problems than it's worth.

That's not to say that his popularity is a product of his own doing, but even if he were willing to change positions - no team is going to waste the time.
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It has nothing to do with him. No NFL team wants to put up with a bench player/project while the media is a constant nuisance. It causes more problems than it's worth.

That's not to say that his popularity is a product of his own doing, but even if he were willing to change positions - no team is going to waste the time.
I completely disagree with this statement. If Tebow decided that he wanted to become a TE/HB there would be a dozen teams ready to give him a tryout tomorrow.
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I completely disagree with this statement. If Tebow decided that he wanted to become a TE/HB there would be a dozen teams ready to give him a tryout tomorrow.
It's hard to say because there really hasn't been a player like Tim Tebow in the fact that he was so popular without being good. There have been bad popular players before, but none of them were anywhere near the top 10 most popular players.

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As far as the OP is concerned, I don't think anyone in the Tebow camp will admit he is done until he spends a year on the street and training camp rolls around again and there is very little to no interest in him. (so, see me in September 2014 for his retirement speech).

As far as how big of an impact the media has, at least one team (the Patriots) have privately said no thanks because of it. The Pats had to be one of the top fits for him because of McDaniels, the offense, and Tom Brady (as well as his age). However, NE isn't going to invest into a guy that they pretty well handled (they like guys that cause them trouble, not ones they beat up on). Especially not ones that carry his media presence.

I still contend the team that makes the most sense is the Saints. He wouldn't do much for a while, but sitting around Brees (and his dedication to perfection of his mechanics) and having an offensive genius like Sean Payton coaching him would have to be the best situation to be in.
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He's so selfish he won't go play another position. What a douche.
he has the potential to be a solid h-back. the jets and other teams this off-season asked him to consider the switch. he refused.

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It is all crap because no one will even give him a chance any more because of the the Jet's coaching staff and how he was treated in NYJ.

Yea it is a little sad he won't switch to another position but don't hate him even more because of that.

There should be a few teams out there that can use him at least as a back up QB . Browns, Jags, Cards and probably one or two more teams can use him as a back up at the very least.

Again some of you will never support him because he can't play. But oh well.
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It is all crap because no one will even give him a chance any more because of the the Jet's coaching staff and how he was treated in NYJ.

Yea it is a little sad he won't switch to another position but don't hate him even more because of that.

There should be a few teams out there that can use him at least as a back up QB . Browns, Jags, Cards and probably one or two more teams can use him as a back up at the very least.

Again some of you will never support him because he can't play. But oh well.

He.is.not.good.
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I wouldn't be sir prized if he passed McCoy on the depth chart. I think he might have a better arm and accurate arm then him from the highlights I thought. He also got some wheels too help us prepare for QB's as Wilson , RG3 and other runners etc.
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It is all crap because no one will even give him a chance any more because of the the Jet's coaching staff and how he was treated in NYJ.

Yea it is a little sad he won't switch to another position but don't hate him even more because of that.

There should be a few teams out there that can use him at least as a back up QB . Browns, Jags, Cards and probably one or two more teams can use him as a back up at the very least.

Again some of you will never support him because he can't play. But oh well.
Did you just derail your own argument?
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It is all crap because no one will even give him a chance any more because of the the Jet's coaching staff and how he was treated in NYJ.

Yea it is a little sad he won't switch to another position but don't hate him even more because of that.

There should be a few teams out there that can use him at least as a back up QB . Browns, Jags, Cards and probably one or two more teams can use him as a back up at the very least.

Again some of you will never support him because he can't play. But oh well.
I have read in a few different posts where you insinuate that the Jets somehow screwed him and his career over. Would you please elaborate on what you mean by this?
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Again some of you will never support him because he can't play. But oh well.
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I have read in a few different posts where you insinuate that the Jets somehow screwed him and his career over. Would you please elaborate on what you mean by this?
it's possible that by watching mark sanchez play tebow's skills deteriorated.
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It is all crap because no one will even give him a chance any more because of the the Jet's coaching staff and how he was treated in NYJ.

Yea it is a little sad he won't switch to another position but don't hate him even more because of that.

There should be a few teams out there that can use him at least as a back up QB . Browns, Jags, Cards and probably one or two more teams can use him as a back up at the very least.

Again some of you will never support him because he can't play. But oh well.
people like you are more of a reason that he won't get a shot than the coaching staff of the Jets.
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Again some of you will never support him because he can't play. But oh well.
Why should anyone support a player that can't play? Why is Tebow special but thousands of NFL hopefuls are not? Come on man, this is just getting ridiculous from you now. Well, I say now, but it has been ridiculous from the start.
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Screw the NFL, Tim. Go to Canada and learn to throw at a pro football standard. All Tebow needs to do is become more competent as a passer, not turn into Peyton Manning.

If Tebow can't catch on in the CFL and refine his throwing motion and get more familiar with pro passing route concepts and learn how to diagnose passing defenses, then his career is done because apparently no NFL franchise wants to invest the time to develop him.

I still say Tebow has more 'it' when the game is on the line than 90% of the starting QBs in the NFL. Tim just needs to understand as of right now he's not as good as he thinks he is.

And for all those teams saying they won't entertain the idea of bringing Tebow into their organization because of his fanbase, that's pure crap.

Of course Tebow fans were vocal in Denver; he was a first round pick and Orton looked like garbage. Same situation in NY, the starting QB looked worse than Tebow ever did as a starter.

Good NFL QBs aren't going to be threatened by the presence of Tim Tebow on the bench.

The blueprint is out there for him, Tebow needs to go somewhere so he can get coaching and play meaningful football.

Warren Moon and Doug Flutie did it. All depends if Tebow can humble his ego and how bad he wants it.
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He'll probably go to Canada and win the Grey Cup on an annual basis while throwing for 52% and rushing for 25 touchdowns every year.
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He'll probably go to Canada and win the Grey Cup on an annual basis while throwing for 52% and rushing for 25 touchdowns every year.
That's like...the opposite of how Canadian football works. It's basically impossible to rush your way to a win with those rules.
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point to a SINGLE improvement he made in his game in his entire time in the nfl. just one. point to a single thing he didn't do demonstrably worse than he did in college. can't? awesome, then let's stop acting like anything i said is untrue just because i'm some guy on a message board.
I liked Tebow coming out of college, and I've been personally a little frustrated by the way he's been used his first few years in the NFL, but this increasingly what I'm seeing, too. He just isn't getting any better at anything - at least that anyone has seen. All he needs to be, with his skillset, is a competent passer, and he's not that, and he hasn't shown that he can be. He might even be able to win his own way, playing sandlot football, but that would be asking the team to basically not-practice. I mean, there just wouldn't be a point to installing any other kind of offense than one where the team lines up and gives Tim the option of handing off, keeping it or throwing to a receiver running some simple route. A team basically, at this point, has to be comfortable making a "leap of faith" in Tebow, because he just doesn't look like he can play quarterback. It's not like he's simply inaccurate; he looked confused all the time, he held onto the ball way too long, he was fumble-prone, etc. The game looked too fast for him to react to, and especially when Denver got down significantly, there just wasn't really any hope of rallying, because he can't throw it well enough, and that alone basically means no team is going to be willing to give him control of the offense.

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That's like...the opposite of how Canadian football works. It's basically impossible to rush your way to a win with those rules.
Mostly joking, but Doug Flutie averaged almost 600 rushing yards and 8 TDs a season over his 8 years there, so there's a precedent for mobile QBs having success running with the football.
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Mostly joking, but Doug Flutie averaged almost 600 rushing yards and 8 TDs a season over his 8 years there, so there's a precedent for mobile QBs having success running with the football.
He was passing for 5000-6500 yards per season at completion rates that Timmy could never dream of. He had at least 650 passing attempts per season in those years. That tiny bit of running wasn't a factor, it was incidental...those weren't running plays; they were broken pass plays where Flutie took what he could get. Also, kep in mind that 600 CFL yards = like 300 NFL yards as far as total offense goes.

There's not really anywhere Tebow could be a successful pro QB. The NFL is the league with the rule book that offers the best fit for his skill set, and he's not good enough to pull it off. Even Arena League rules would cripple him.
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He'll probably go to Canada and win the Grey Cup on an annual basis while throwing for 52% and rushing for 25 touchdowns every year.
i was thinking along the lines of this. Hed probably dominate in canada
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i was thinking along the lines of this. Hed probably dominate in canada
Except canada is like 90% throwing which he can't do.
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i was thinking along the lines of this. Hed probably dominate in canada
He'll get running stats, but not that many wins in Canada. For starters, the CFL is a passing driven league. Secondly, the average score in a CFL game is >40.
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