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Old 04-27-2008, 12:11 PM    (permalink
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For round 5 here's what I'm wanting with our pick assuming these guys are still here:

1. Donald Thomas G UConn
2. Steve Justice C Georgia Tech
3. Carl Nicks T Nebraska
4. Raymond Felton G Arkansas

All big physical guys who can run block. Some real talent is left out there.
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I just wanted to congratulate you guys on getting Brandon Carr the CB from Grand Valley.

I got a chance to see his pro day, he worked out at MSU with our players, and he was very impressive in every drill. Very quick and has great leaping ability.

As a 5th rounder he's a very solid pick.
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I just wanted to congratulate you guys on getting Brandon Carr the CB from Grand Valley.

I got a chance to see his pro day, he worked out at MSU with our players, and he was very impressive in every drill. Very quick and has great leaping ability.

As a 5th rounder he's a very solid pick.

Thanks, thats good to hear i've been trying to find some info on him.
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Richardson! Great pick in the 6th.
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Why havent we taken Andre Woodson. Great backup plan for when we realize Croyle sucks
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I was hoping we were going to take Woodson right there, oh well.
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3rd pick of the 7th round we get him IMO
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love the Brian Johnston pick in the 7th.I know we did'nt get as much OL as we'd all like but I'd still call this a successful draft
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love the Brian Johnston pick in the 7th.I know we did'nt get as much OL as we'd all like but I'd still call this a successful draft

Me too. Johnston has a chance to be a third down pash rusher this year even. Good draft overall for sure with a lot of guys that will contribute immediatley.

You guys that were wanting Woodson though shouldn't be too upset. The guy has such a slow release that he isn't going to survive in the NFL. If Croyle doesn't work out we will probably start the JP Losman era next season.
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I like our draft but I would of really been happier if we took a QB. Hopefully we get an UDFA
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Me too. Johnston has a chance to be a third down pash rusher this year even. Good draft overall for sure with a lot of guys that will contribute immediatley.

You guys that were wanting Woodson though shouldn't be too upset. The guy has such a slow release that he isn't going to survive in the NFL. If Croyle doesn't work out we will probably start the JP Losman era next season.

Yeah, I am hoping Croyle proves a lot of people wrong this year. I'm sure we'll find someone in the UDFA. When reading the draft report on Johnston, I think he's the next "jared allen", or maybe I am just hoping. but I don't think our pass rush will be too bad with Dorsey and Tank in the middle, Tamba, Turk and Boone(can't beleive that) outside, and even Johnston? We got an awesome spell back for Johnson, a big blocking tight end and (spit) Gonzo's eventual replacement
The more I think about it, I think we've gotten a lot of OL talent quietly...Through the draft and through FA, more to come with UDFA.
The only think I'm worried about is CB, Flowers will be an instant starter, but who's our nickel back and replacement for Surtain?
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Brandon Carr can work a year behind Surtain and possibly be a starter next year. He breaks to the ball really well, can jump, and will be an excellent cover two corner. Herm loves this guy.

As for Johnston, EXCELLENT pick in the 7th round. This guy can be a player at this level. boe, ads and I kept screaming in irc for us to take him and we finally did late. Was a great great pick.

Overall, the draft was a HUGE success. They drafted exceptionally well this year. We have a few more years to develop, but if we have another draft like this, it'll be sooner rather than later.
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I really love the Charles pick the more I think about it.I mean you have LJ wearing down defenders then bring Jamaal in to hit the long run
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Charles was a fantastic pick. He is a great compliment to LJ and this has become a two back league.
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Brandon Carr can work a year behind Surtain and possibly be a starter next year. He breaks to the ball really well, can jump, and will be an excellent cover two corner. Herm loves this guy.

As for Johnston, EXCELLENT pick in the 7th round. This guy can be a player at this level. boe, ads and I kept screaming in irc for us to take him and we finally did late. Was a great great pick.

Overall, the draft was a HUGE success. They drafted exceptionally well this year. We have a few more years to develop, but if we have another draft like this, it'll be sooner rather than later.
I couldn't find too much on Brandon Carr, I do know that's a pretty good school in D2, and generally speaking Herm knows how to draft DB's....So let's look at this;
Glen Dorsey and Branden Alberts will immediately shore up our Lines, Let's hope alberts can step in immediately and play LT. Flowers will instantly come in and play CB#2. Charles is our home run threat with LJ in the back(Darren Who?). Cottam and Carr will be starters not this year, but next year, and contribute immediately. We added very good depth at WR. Solidified our Guard position with the other tackle we picked up.......i'd go on but you get the point.

Guys..I hate to say this, but do you think we could push for a playoff spot this year?
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Well certainly on paper it seems that the Chiefs hit home runs in the Jared Allen deal. We need 3-4 years to see how this all pans out but there is great reason to be excited right now.

The way I'm looking at it, it looks like they have brought in three guys who should be starting right away: Dorsey, Albert and Flowers. I expect Morgan, Franklin and Richardson to at the very least challenge for starting spots. So those are between 3-6 new starters right there. Charles, Cottam and Carr should receive extensive playing time as reserves, while Johnston looks like he'll get a shot at being a pass rush specialist while his body develops into a starting caliber end. Robinson and Charles look like they will be looked at as potential returners. Merritt, well, I'm not quite sure why they went back to the TE well with Gonzalez, Allan (from last year) and now Cottam, but nfl.com says he is a good blocking tight end, so maybe we are just being cautious seeing as how Gailey likes to utilize the 2 TE set (which I love, btw).

Potential starting offensive lineup this year:

QB: Brodie Croyle
RB: Larry Johnson
FB: Oliver Hoyte (maybe?)
WR: Dwayne Bowe
WR: Jeff Webb, Will Franklin, Devard Darling (we have options here)
TE: Tony Gonzalez
LT: Damion McIntosh
LG: Brian Waters
C: Rudy Niswanger
RG: Barry Richardson
RT: Branden Albert

I think Albert and Richardson are interchangeable, but I would start them both off on the right side just to get them acclimated to the league. We won't be competing for a Super Bowl run this year, so no reason to expose either to the left tackle spot just yet. We have tons of options at WR, and Maurice Price is still around a guy I was high on last year.

Defense:
RE: Tamba Hali
NT: Tank Tyler
UT: Glenn Dorsey
LE: Turk McBride (no one in their right mind would start Boone at end)
LB: Donnie Edwards
LB: Napolean Harris
LB: Derrick Johnson
RC: Patrick Surtain
LC: Brandon Flowers
SS: Bernard Pollard
FS: Jarrad Page

The lineup looks a lot uglier without Allen in it, but what'cha gonna do? If Tyler and Dorsey both pan out we could have our own Henderson-Stroud combo for the next 6-7 years. I'm worried about the pass rush and the secondary, but this team should be a ***** to run against.

Special Teams:
K: Who knows, we have three right now.
P: Dustin Colquitt
KR: BJ Sams, Kevin Robinson, Jamaal Charles
PR: The same

Robinson was listed as the best return man in the country by NFL.com, so it'll be interesting to see what happens.

Either way, and sorry this is such a long winded post, I think it's obvious how excited I am, the Chiefs suddenly have a ton of young talent spread across the field. They are unproven, and they are inexperienced, so the most important thing is for Carl to GET THEM SIGNED, and get them here so they are learning and ready to go for camp. Don't wait, Carl, get it done now.

Also, it appears Dorsey will wear 72, Albert 76, and Flowers 20, as per kcchiefs.com's roster page.
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That really depends on the players and on Brodie. This is a team in transition. Today we took a HUGE step in the right direction for this franchise. I have nothing but faith in Branden Albert being able to move directly to LT his rookie year. There will be some struggling, but everyone does (with the exception of Joe Thomas)

It really depends on the quality of play we get from the trenches and how Croyle does. If LJ is fully healed, and our line seems to be solid (Herb Taylor possibly stepping into the fold, with Barry Richardson and Niswanger fighting for spots as well, and Albert on the left) we could.

Also, I think Will Franklin can come in right away and start, btw. He is fast with exceptional hands. He is a good burner opposite of Bowe.

Man, I am excited!
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Village, I always enjoy reading your posts, but I'm going to disagree with one thing.

Throw Albert in at LT right now. He can only benefit from having Brian Waters there. Throw him into the fire and see how he handles himself. I think he's going to be better there than a lot of people realize, and playing with a player of Waters caliber can only help him. Move McIntosh to RT, Niswanger at C, and Richardson and Herb Taylor compete for the RG spot, so:

LT: Branden Albert
LG: Brian Waters
C: Rudy Niswanger
RG: Barry Richardson/Herb Taylor
RT: Damion McIntosh
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They are unproven, and they are inexperienced, so the most important thing is for Carl to GET THEM SIGNED, and get them here so they are learning and ready to go for camp. Don't wait, Carl, get it done now.

Also, it appears Dorsey will wear 72, Albert 76, and Flowers 20, as per kcchiefs.com's roster page.

Well said..........
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Also, with our running game now(hopefully) and improved line, we, at the very least, determine whether or not Brodie is the QBOTF
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Yeah I think if we get the line worked out (and the rumor that we're switching to ZBS) and LJ is healthy, LJ and Charles is a great 1-2 combo, we can work the playaction again, get Bowe and Tony G (among others) the ball and see how he handles it.

It would be nice to see how he plays when he's not throwing from his back. If it doesn't work out we'll probably have a high draft pick next year and we can get a QB then!
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My Line-Up without the obvious positions

LT: Albert
LG: Herb Taylor
C: Brian Waters
RG: Barry Richardson
RT: McIntosh

There seems to be questions about whether Niswanger will be ready for opening day and the Chiefs seem willing to move Waters to Center

DE: Tamba Hali
DT: Glenn Dorsey
DT: Tank Tyler
DE: Turk McBride
OLB: DJ
MLB: Donnie Edwards
OLB: Demorrio Williams
CB: Pat Surtain
FS: DaJuan Morgan
SS: Page or Pollard
CB: Brandon Flowers

K: Carney
P: Colquitt
KR/PR: K-Rob
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"It's a new dawn, It's a new day.."

How fitting...
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I have to do this.

Right now, this is what we can look forward to for the 2009 draft:

1. QB. I think with this draft we will be able to determine whether or not Brodie is the guy. I don't think the difference in his supporting cast is going to be night and day, but I do think it will be improved enough to see if he can play. If he can, great. If he can't, we are in position to get a QB high next year. Tebow? Perilloux? I have no idea who the QBs are going into next season.

2. LT. Albert could very well be a stop gap until next season, the Chiefs may have a shot at a guy like Oher from Mississippi. Oher and Albert as bookend tackles? Me likey a lotey.

3. DE. We have Hali and Turk at DE right now, with a 7th rounder and other unproven guys as the reserves. The lack of a pass rush could put the Chiefs in a position to draft the best defensive end coming out next year.

4. James Laurinaitis. Maybe not the most pressing need, but Laurinaitis is a stud and pairing him next to DJ for the next 8 years. Laurinaitis is a stud. Laurinaitis is a stud. I'll say it again, Laurinaitis is a stud.

Sorry, wanted to look ahead real far.
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