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View Poll Results: Which defense is the most effective?
4-3 26 37.14%
3-4 26 37.14%
Cover 2 13 18.57%
Other/Specify 5 7.14%
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Old 05-07-2008, 04:24 PM    (permalink
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There's no right answer. "When you have the ideal personnel," all formations will work.

A 3-4 with a dominant NT anchoring the line and powerful, explosive edge rushes to pressure the QB, or a cover-two with a penetrating DT, quick ends and mobile 'backers and DBs ... it doesn't matter. The key is having that personnel.
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Cover 2 is a play. Tampa 2 is a scheme. The Colts, Bucs, and Lions probably will run the purest forms of the Tampa 2 this year.
Exactly. The Colts' favorite play on defense is actually a Weakside Cover 3. They'll come out in a Cover Two look, then before the ball is snapped, FS Bob Sanders will move down into the box to defend the run/weakside curl-flat area, while SS Bethea will rotate over the top to defend the deep middle. The Colts really only run Cover Two on third and long situations.
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Most Tampa 2 teams run a ton more Cover 3 than Cover 2 nowadays. Mainly bc they need 8 in the box to stuff the run, so your options on 1st and 2nd down are limited.

Cover 2 has almost become a 3rd and long play. Its rarely used by Tampa 2 teams on running downs.
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Tragically bad you say? You mean like setting a record for most games without a touchdown bad?
I've already outlined how the Ravens offense was superior to the Eagles offense in pretty much every way.
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Exactly. The Colts' favorite play on defense is actually a Weakside Cover 3. They'll come out in a Cover Two look, then before the ball is snapped, FS Bob Sanders will move down into the box to defend the run/weakside curl-flat area, while SS Bethea will rotate over the top to defend the deep middle. The Colts really only run Cover Two on third and long situations.
Wow, props for recognizing that, very true, Sanders is too much of a force in the short field to send him deep too often, but sometimes he does just read and react (i.e. his AFC Title saving 3rd and 4 play, I don't think he had the short responsibility).
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gimme a 3-4 with LT coming off the edge and I'd win every game and murder QB's.

I like the versatility of a 3-4. I like having the speed rushers coming off the edge killing QB's. THe element of surprise. You never know who the 4th rusher is or where he's gonna come from. With a good DC, and personel, you can confuse the **** out of offenses and go nuts.
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I agree with Wyndham on this one and say they all work just as effectively, when you have the right personnel.

If you have humongous, athletic linemen with pass rush potential in a 3-4, you can throw around some over-sized LB's back there and just let them go crazy blitzing. I think we can all agree that that is the key to a successful 3-4 defense. The linemen. The reason the Patriots defense for a while looked so damn impressive is because of Warren, Seymour and Wilfork. They're all studs in that defense, and they make their old ass LB's look good.

In the 4-3, again, if you have great defensive line play you can make anything work. The Giants are the best example of that. Great pass rushers, solid LB's, and their secondary was pretty ugly at times, but they weren't exposed as much (only when T.O played them) because of the rush.

All in all, with the right personnel, you can play anything and be good at it.

Heck, you can run a 1-3-7 defense if you have Calais Campbell gain 50 lbs and take on Quadriple teams at the L.O.S...
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