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Old 06-05-2008, 01:52 AM    (permalink
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Marion Barber will prove his worth this year, nobody brings up that he is one of the best blocking RB's in the league, an excellent receiver out of the backfield, and has great vision...Its amazing so many people have a problem with him at #8 yet see no problem with Brandon Jacobs at #17.
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Its amazing so many people have a problem with him at #8 yet see no problem with Brandon Jacobs at #17.
Considering that Brandon Jacobs put up more yards on the ground on less carries last year, it isn't really all that amazing.
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Marion Barber will prove his worth this year, nobody brings up that he is one of the best blocking RB's in the league, an excellent receiver out of the backfield, and has great vision...Its amazing so many people have a problem with him at #8 yet see no problem with Brandon Jacobs at #17.
Portis hands down is the best blocking RB in the league, to debate that is pointless
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Just a quick reminder. Many (I want to say most, but won't) people had Reggie Bush pegged as a hall of famer before he even played a down. And I left the word "future" out of that sentence on purpose.
Jesus dont even get me started on Reggie Bush hype. I had to smack my friend silly when he said Bush would be better than Barry Sanders without even stepping on a pro field. He was serious too. Hook line and sinker in the hype machine on him.
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Considering that Brandon Jacobs put up more yards on the ground on less carries last year, it isn't really all that amazing.
You think thats the only indication of a great all around back, or are we ranking RB's in terms of pure yardage?



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Portis hands down is the best blocking RB in the league, to debate that is pointless
Where did I say anything about Barber being better at blocking then Portis? Please go troll somewhere else...This is my last response to you in this thread.
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You think thats the only indication of a great all around back, or are we ranking RB's in terms of pure yardage?
I didn't say Jacobs was better, but he was certainly as productive on the ground, if not a bit more so. Not to say blocking and catching aren't important, but they are secondary.

Considering their respective production, perhaps there being 9 spot between the two is several spots too many.
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-Brandon Jacobs, and Michael Turner are too high

-Ronnie Brown should be higher he was a beast before he went down last year. The Injury may knock him down a bit but he is better than some of the RB's above him.

-Ryan Grant is also too low, I will be the first to admit I am very skeptical about what his future will be. But as of now I have to honestly say I would take him over Brandon Jacobs, Michael Turner, and Laurence Maroney.

-Thomas Jones should be in the top 20 as well.

-Chester Taylor the 26th best RB in the league? What??? He got majorily disrespected on this list. Peterson gets all of the spotlight, but this list shows that some are over looking Chester Taylor he is a very good RB himself. He should atleast be #16 and it could be debateable for him over Jamal Lewis and maybe MJD.

My top 20
1.Ladanian Tomlinson
2.Brian Westbrook
3.Adrian Peterson
4.Stephen Jackson
5.Larry Johnson
6.Frank Gore
7.Clinton Portis
8.Ronnie Brown
9.Joesph Addai
10.Willie Parker
11.Marion The Barbarion
12.Marshawn Lynch
13.Fred Taylor
14.Willis McGahee
15.Chester Taylor
16.Maurice Jones-Drew
17.Jamal Lewis
18.Ryan Grant
19.Thomas Jones
20.Laurence Maroney

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I don't know if you noticed, but Frank Gores offensive line was just as bad as LJ's and his passing game was worse. Frank also played most of the season on a sprained ankle. Yet he still put up very respectable numbers....THAT is what a great RB does.
1102 yards is not that great GREAT RB's do that in there sleep I will give it to him for playing hurt but its not like he set the world on fire.
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1102 yards is not that great GREAT RB's do that in there sleep I will give it to him for playing hurt but its not like he set the world on fire.
He didn't say the numbers were great, he said they were respectable. What he said was great was the fact that he played hurt most of the season and still managed to put up respectable numbers with our waste of space O-Line.
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Marion Barber will prove his worth this year, nobody brings up that he is one of the best blocking RB's in the league, an excellent receiver out of the backfield, and has great vision...Its amazing so many people have a problem with him at #8 yet see no problem with Brandon Jacobs at #17.
I have a problem with both of those, The mighty Midget should be ahead of Jacobs and the Barbarian can't be ahead of Lynch unless this is a likelihood of making the PB list.
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Addai doesn't even belong in the top-15...yet they have him ahead of GORE? Unreal.
Nah Addai is definately a top 10 back, but I agree that he is not any higher than that. While having lots of stars on the offense in Indy, he does have very good talent of his own and could be a good back elsewhere as well.
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Marion Barber will prove his worth this year, nobody brings up that he is one of the best blocking RB's in the league, an excellent receiver out of the backfield, and has great vision...Its amazing so many people have a problem with him at #8 yet see no problem with Brandon Jacobs at #17.
I guess same thing can be said about Jacobs. Jacobs is a good blitz pickup guy. At 6'4 264, he can eat up any LB or worse CB/SS/FS who thinks they can fly in there. He doesnt have to do what the smaller backs do and cut the guy, Jacobs can just take them 1 on 1 and not worry about getting owned physically. That's where his size is a huge asset. One defensive player want to be running full speed into a guy that side, lol.
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Portis hands down is the best blocking RB in the league, to debate that is pointless
Longhorn didn't say Barber was the best, but rather one of the best.
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Nah Addai is definately a top 10 back, but I agree that he is not any higher than that. While having lots of stars on the offense in Indy, he does have very good talent of his own and could be a good back elsewhere as well.
i personally would put him in the top 15 area but i think he is great for indy. he does everything they ask and is a great patient runner. while he would be good in other places, i he is a great fit for indy
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RB's I would take when healthy over Addai, no question:

Gore
Jackson
Tomlinson
Peterson
Westbrook
Jamal Lewis
Larry Johnson
McGahee
Willie Parker
Edgerrin James
Deuce McAllister
Fred Taylor
Marion Barber
Ronnie Brown
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RB's I would take when healthy over Addai, no question:

Gore
Jackson
Tomlinson
Peterson
Westbrook
Jamal Lewis
Larry Johnson
McGahee
Willie Parker
Edgerrin James
Deuce McAllister
Fred Taylor
Marion Barber
Michael Turner
Ronnie Brown
Lawrence Maroney
Portis
Jones-Drew
Brandon Jacobs
I agree with the non bold picks.
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RB's I would take when healthy over Addai, no question:

Gore
Jackson
Tomlinson
Peterson
Westbrook
Jamal Lewisnope, no way I would want this guy.
Larry Johnsonat this stage, no I wouldn't want him.
McGahee
Willie Parker
Edgerrin Jamesfunny
Deuce McAllisterIMO, he done.
Fred Taylortoo old
Marion Barberwhat has he proven over Addai?
Ronnie Brown
Brandon JacobsDoesn't have the speed to take it to the house, no thanks.
The others guys I would take, but not the ones in bold.
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1102 yards is not that great GREAT RB's do that in there sleep I will give it to him for playing hurt but its not like he set the world on fire.
4.2 YPC is VERY respectable given Gores situation.

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He didn't say the numbers were great, he said they were respectable. What he said was great was the fact that he played hurt most of the season and still managed to put up respectable numbers with our waste of space O-Line.
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Willis McGahee > Joseph Addai = FAIL imo.

Nevermind the elite pass protection and receiving ability, McGahee can't even make the first guy miss like Addai. Plus I doubt McGahee could handle half the Colts playbook, and I feel like I'm being generous there. Look at what Addai did at LSU and at the Pro Bowl, the guy can get it done in different offenses, the only issue is staying healthy and having a bit of an upright style (as a back between 5' 11" and 6').
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Thomas Jones should be way higher he carried an offense to the superbowl Frank is definitly a top five back the rankings of the rookies i don't agree with this is not a very good list
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The others guys I would take, but not the ones in bold.
Jacobs doesn't have speed to take it to thehouse? Are you smoking crack or something? Watch more of our games, and you can see he does have speed to take it to the house. If your going to rip him, at least be correct. And I am not a Jacobs fan, but at least question his below avg vision vision, and lack of cutback ability like I do!
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Thomas Jones should be way higher he carried an offense to the superbowl Frank is definitly a top five back the rankings of the rookies i don't agree with this is not a very good list
yea...suuuuure....Thomas Jones was the only reason the Bears made it...
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Willis McGahee > Joseph Addai = FAIL imo.

Nevermind the elite pass protection and receiving ability, McGahee can't even make the first guy miss like Addai. Plus I doubt McGahee could handle half the Colts playbook, and I feel like I'm being generous there. Look at what Addai did at LSU and at the Pro Bowl, the guy can get it done in different offenses, the only issue is staying healthy and having a bit of an upright style (as a back between 5' 11" and 6').
McGahee was actually fairly impressive for the Ravens last year...Addai flat-out SUCKED at times last year, man, and he's in one of the better running systems of the NFL.
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