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Old 07-02-2008, 07:37 PM    (permalink
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Found this on MGoBlog. Really interesting read. bigbluedefense might bust a nut with how in-depth it goes.

http://smartfootball.blogspot.com/20...tom-brady.html
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As a former offensive lineman, I can tell you that this is a very good article.
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Good read, if lengthy. Very detailed. That guy strikes me as someone who knows his ****.
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I'll read this later on... seems like a good article.

Anyways, just for the sake of conversation, my team played this kind of blocking scheme.

Most teams in my league play with two outside linebackers lining up at the line, about 5 steps from the last guy in the line (we call them Edges).

So for example.

We call pass block left. The FB goes up the A or B gap on the right 3 or 4 steps, reads blitz from linebacker and if he doesnt blitz he picks up the edge. The ''backer'' on the other side does the same. Who is the ''backer'' someone calls him according to the defensive front. If he is a 1 tech, the center has him, if he is a 2 tech, the guard has him and the center has the backer and so forth.

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ps, someone always runs a fire route in case of blitzes.
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Very good article. As a former offensive linemen, this is as close as you can get to a great exlpanation. There are a few things that he left out or seemed odd to me, but I think that is just a diference in what I was taught as a linemen. This guy knows his stuff. He is definitely more knowledgeable than most, if not all of the commentators on ESPN.
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I read this. That guy's blog is very, very, very good! He breaks down all sorts of stuff from passing concepts to the above pass protection.
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Looks like a basic analysis of a gap scheme.
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This is pretty basic stuff. And the part about left tackle being the highest paid, well I feel like those days are going to the wayside because it seems that guards and other tackle positions are starting to get equally as high paid. It isn't like defenses only attack the left tackle.
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This is pretty basic stuff. And the part about left tackle being the highest paid, well I feel like those days are going to the wayside because it seems that guards and other tackle positions are starting to get equally as high paid. It isn't like defenses only attack the left tackle.
No. Guards and RT getting paid more just means that when the next big name LT is up for a contract extension... he is going to get insane amounts of green.

Defenses don't only attack the left side, but alot of offenses leave the LT uncovered by a TE more often than a RT. Also most defenses have their best passrusher on the right side, so they should get paid more.
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Not as "In-Depth" as I thought it would be from the outset but its a decent article. I think he tends to generalize pass schemes too much to be honest. A good read for someone with a basic understanding of football who wants to know a little more about pass schemes.
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this is a great article for a casual fan who doesn't understand protection schemes. since i know my giants better than any other team, ill use our defensive scheme to demonstrate how our philosophy attacks all these concepts.


1. Man blocking.

-man blocking is a big no no against the Giants, in particular against our nickel defense on passing downs. We want offenses to man block against us simply because it creates favorable matchups that no offensive line in the league can match up against. Having 4 athletic linemen who can get at the qb is essential to attacking and blowing up this protection, and the Giants attack it primarily with our inside rushers. In our case, its Tuck and Kiwi/Alford. We have those DEs inside, and when they stunt outside, there isn't a single OG in the league who can match up against them in space. Thats why our stunts work so well, its designed to force your OG to play like an OT in space against our DEs playing inside. Since our DEs are so good, you essentially are putting an OG on an island vs a high caliber DE. Thats a battle we'll win much more than we'll lose.

Our favorite stunt last year was this. The formation was Osi and Strahan at RE and LE, and Tuck and Kiwi as both UTs. We'd have Osi and Strahan bullrush their OTs, and Kiwi and Tuck do outside loops to get at the qb. What this stunt essentially does is switch up your oline. It makes your OTs play like OGs since our DEs bullrush them into an inside position. Now with that, our UTs will speed rush outside, forcing your OGs to jump out on an island vs them. Its essentially forcing role reversal amongst your oline and no OG in the game will stop Justin Tuck in space. Even Kiwi for that matter. And thats a simple 4 man rush.

-Area Blocking.
So now what happens if a team decides to zone block to counter our stunts? We blitz. Area blocking is very effective at reducing the quality of our 4 man stunts, however, throw in some blitzing and force those olinemen to make 2 reads as he was eluding to in his column, now you create confusion and unblocked guys will get at the qb. Now how do you maintain coverage integrity while blitzing? Zone blitzing. The biggest misconception of the Giants (and Eagles) defenses is that its an all out man coverage scheme. Not true at all. Its much more of a zone blitzing scheme, that plays press zone and bumps/jams receivers at the line. As he eluded to in his column, we often drop back DEs (most of the time Osi) into coverage to maintain coverage integrity while blitzing. Often times we do a 4 man zone blitz and get the same quality pass rush as our traditional 4 man rush because you have to account for so many rushers on any given down, that its easy to confuse an offensive line thats making 2 reads in 3 seconds or less.

-Now what happens when you use a combination of man and area? More of the same, theres really nothing you can do. The Giants defense is built to get a pass rush and thats that. Its very difficult to stop it. The only thing I can think of is having a huge oline that can punch us in the mouth, and is big enough to eat a ton of space (which is why Dallas's oline is the most effective against our front).


Now, let's breakdown personnel. The Giants have certain criteria out of every player on defense. Every player on defense must be strong enough to stop the run, be a good blitzer, and play decent coverage. Even CBs and safeties. Spagnuolo wants to be able to blitz from any where at any time. That is why we have drafted CBs who can tackle in the run game and blitz very effectively. Thats why we had Wilson (now Phillips) at FS opposed to SS. We want to come at you from every angle. We are willing to give up some speed in the secondary to be able to do this, to Spags its more important to have DBs who can get dirty in the run game and blitz than guys who can run toe for toe with the Randy Moss's of the world.

Now with any blitzing style comes weaknesses. Whats the weaknesses of a blitzing defense?

1. gap assignments against the run
2. screen passes, WCO


those are the 2 primary issues with this style of defense. The Giants (and Eagles) correct issue #1 by having a run thumping sledgehammer style MIKE in the middle who's responsibilty is mainly to stop the run. We also ask our safeties and CBs to really get in there and stop the run because we're going to have guys out of position in the run game from time to time. Similar to Tampa 2 teams, our DBs have to be solid against the run.

#2 is accounted for by the type of DBs we get. Again, our DBs have to be strong, and solid tacklers. When you defend the screen pass, its essentially your DBs who make a play on the ball in your worst case scenario. Having strong DBs who can take on blocks and make tackles makes it difficult for the screen game to work as effectively as an offense would like for it to work.

As for the WCO, again, this would be an issue if the defense was mainly a man coverage defense, but its not. Its more of a zone blitz defense, so those quick slants won't work as effectively. Don't get me wrong though, this defense would like to play as much press man as possible, but realistically, its not achievable, especially against top notch offenses. So as a result, its more of a press zone blitz defense.

Not to mention that one of the biggest misconceptions of blitzing is that like this man said, a blitz is mostly a man coverage blitz. Man coverage blitzing is very vanilla and theres only so many different types of blitzes you can bring while keeping coverage integrity with a man coverage blitz. Its most easier coming up with creative blitz packages in a zone blitz style.
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