Which 5* is most likely to be a bust? - Page 5

Brent · 07-11-2008, 07:59 PM

Garrett Gilbert, just dont think he's going to turn out.

keylime_5 · 07-11-2008, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by LonghornsLegend

Do you actually know what your talking about or are you just coming up with random thoughts...

Do you know how developed VY was as a passer out of HS? Because he redshirted and im pretty sure you didnt see many of his HS games, because if you did he looked incredible throwing the ball, much like Pryor now, point of that is it means nothing...How about lets see Pryor throw just one pass before we hear you tell us how much better of a passer he is just because he looked good doing it in high school vs mediocre competition(that doesnt equal in comparison to the teams Houston Madison faced).

It's pretty much an accepted opinion amongst the recruiting people that Pryor was a more developed passer at this point than Vince was. Vince was apparently mostly a runner with a good arm who didn't do as much through the air as Terrelle can.

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And as far as developing QB's, you dont think it has anything to do with it being two completely different offense, systems, and QB's who are recruited into those systems? Alot of the QB's we recruit are not highly developed passers coming out of HS, it doesnt have anything to do with one school developing QB's better, it would be different if we ran the same offense and went after the same type of QB's.

Vince played in a high school offense at Texas, that gimmick zone read option that won him a title. Tressel with Troy Smith took a guy who wasn't a good passer and put him in an offense that was more prostyle, although he did have many 4 and 5 WR shotgun spread sets to utilize the speed and vast WR arsenal. I think in Tressel's offense it's safe to say Pryor has a better chance to develop into a good passing QB than he would in that spread option.

By the way in 7 on 7s (I know they don't mean anything) I hear Pryor has already seen improvement with his passing, but I think it was more just him being more confident and less nervous than he was the first few days. If Pryor can resolve some footwork flaws and learn to read defenses better like any freshman QB he will be well on his way to being a good passer to go with his running ability.

kwilk103 · 07-11-2008, 08:43 PM

7 on 7s? of course hes gonna look good

as someone whos seen him live, he has all the tools to be a great player, but he has to work on a couple things

1. his delivery---its a bit flawed, but maybe he can make it work like young

2. dont know how to say this, but his competition was pretty weak; a lot of times he just used his athleticism to take over a game; he wont get away with it all the time in d-1

3. kinda point 2b; he was hardly (if ever) asked to read a defense, audible, etc; like young, hes not the smartest kid, so i dont know how much that will affect him

he has all the potential; i feel it wont be til his jr year were he takes over like young

keylime_5 · 07-11-2008, 09:14 PM

Well Pryor did have a GPA near 3.5 so I wouldn't say he's not smart. But regarding 7 on 7s I just wanted to remark on the fact that he's seen a little improvement in his passing already with the help of Boeckman, not that he looks good or anything. But people can see from what he has shown where the hype comes from. Big time talent no doubt, major potential with his arm as well as his feet.

ATLDirtyBirds · 07-11-2008, 09:26 PM

Saw a few Will Hill posts looking through this thread. I'm not sure why... I personally think the kids going to be great. Seen him play a few times.

kwilk103 · 07-11-2008, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by keylime_5

Well Pryor did have a GPA near 3.5 so I wouldn't say he's not smart. But regarding 7 on 7s I just wanted to remark on the fact that he's seen a little improvement in his passing already with the help of Boeckman, not that he looks good or anything. But people can see from what he has shown where the hype comes from. Big time talent no doubt, major potential with his arm as well as his feet.

his hs is below avg for academics...its easy to get good grades there

BufFan71 · 07-12-2008, 07:53 AM

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Matt Patchan, especially if he continues to be moved around for the first two years of his career while at UF.

trust me, the kid is soft

and he is a giant crybaby, who is insane, in a bad way

TRUST ME

Forenci · 07-12-2008, 08:18 AM

Hmm, it's going to be interesting to see what the Buckeyes do with Pryor this year. Should be fun to watch.

Sniper · 07-12-2008, 11:07 AM

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his hs is below avg for academics...its easy to get good grades there

It's also easy to get good grades when you're the #1 prospect in America.

mqtirishfan · 07-12-2008, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ATLDirtyBirds

Saw a few Will Hill posts looking through this thread. I'm not sure why... I personally think the kids going to be great. Seen him play a few times.

I think people are concerned with his lack of a position.

Sniper · 07-12-2008, 01:31 PM

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I think people are concerned with his lack of a position.

I thought he was a safety through and through.

ATLDirtyBirds · 07-12-2008, 02:14 PM

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I think people are concerned with his lack of a position.

He's a FS, for sure. Right now he's 6'3 and 205 and has tremendous ball skills. He just played QB because he was atheltically ahead of everyone on the field, and ran a ton. I'm pretty sure in both his Jr. and Sr. years he had more rushing scores then throws. I've heard he pretty much could have gone anywhere as whatever, but he wanted to be a saftey because QB's were too pretty and he loved to hit people, or something to that effect.

StrongSide97 · 07-16-2008, 06:30 PM

Based on Rivals.com's 5-Star Prospects:

Out of the Top 10, I think the most likely is Russell Shepherd

Out of all of them either Shepherd or Morgan Moses

Brent · 07-20-2008, 03:12 PM

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Out of the Top 10, I think the most likely is Russell Shepherd

I could see this because he didnt pass that much in HS but I guess it will depend on how often he's asked to throw at LSU and how well he develops in their system. From what I recalls it's a very pro-style system, no?

wicket · 07-20-2008, 03:34 PM

So that I hope nobody makes the mistake again because it is all over the threat. A recruit doesn't bust if he is drafted for the NFL anyway. If he had a good college career he did wel and did not bust. He could bust as a draftee but that is not the issue here. So guys quit calling people like ricky williams and brady quinn busts. Players playing like those guys did in college is the best you can HOPE for in a 5* recruit.

ps this message is obviously not directed to the people who already got the message.