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Old 09-18-2008, 12:10 AM    (permalink
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Perhaps, but Allen's BAC puts him over the top, IMO
Terrible joke. Not funny.

Try again another time.
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Old 09-18-2008, 12:13 AM    (permalink
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Terrible joke. Not funny.

Try again another time.
Hey, I tried
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Old 09-18-2008, 12:17 AM    (permalink
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nice job scho
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Old 09-18-2008, 12:35 AM    (permalink
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lol ouch...
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Old 09-18-2008, 12:57 AM    (permalink
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justin tuck will eat both of their babies.
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Old 09-18-2008, 01:01 AM    (permalink
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Not before Justin Smith gets to them :)
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Tuck and Smith will have to wait until Mike Tyson get's up from the table...
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Old 09-18-2008, 02:09 AM    (permalink
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I haven't had a chance to see Allen play with the Vikings much this year, but I'm not really comfortable calling either as better than the other. Kampman is a great player who doesn't get nearly enough recognition. That said, what Allen did as the only real defensive line threat in Kansas City shouldn't be written off. I saw games where he had three blockers get shoulders into him and he'd still get an arm on the passer. He was annually the very best defensive end at knocking balls out of the air. He was very disruptive against the run (although not always consistent against the run as a result).
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Old 09-18-2008, 02:22 AM    (permalink
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You hit it on the nose. I really like Aaron Kampman, and I've been raving about him the last few years now. I think he is the most well rounded defensive end in the league, and one of the best in the NFL right now. Definitely worth being called the top defensive end in the NFL. He can stop the run, and rush the passer, and I think he has one of the best set of hands around as an end.

On Justin Tuck, I definitely see him as a top ten guy right now, and with the ability to evolve into a top five or even top three guy. Do I see an guy who can play exclusively on the end? Right now, I'm not so sure. Many of his techniques, I think are much better suited as a UT. I'm gonna admit, I only saw the Skins game, and parts of the Rams game, but he is certainlty off on the right foot.

That said, do I think Kampman is any better then Jared Allen? Right now, I think they are on the same level, but I would give the upper hand to Aaron based on his ability to do more things on the field then Allen.
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Ok, I love me some Tuck, but whoever the **** said he's better than Kampy already is off their rocker. Come one.
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Justin Tuck, Osi Umenyiora, Mario Williams, Eric Foster>>>both of them
True, but can you really compare a starting nose tackle to defensive ends?
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oh i agree, i meant similar games. i shouldve said "poor man's strahan" to be more accurate.
I don't like poor man's Strahan, more like upper middle class man's Strahan. Kampman has been consistently kick-ass for a while now, I wouldn't call him a poor anything.

I love Jared Allen but I appreciate the well-rounded excellence that is Aaron Kampman. One of the best run stopping DE's in the league.
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I don't like poor man's Strahan, more like upper middle class man's Strahan. Kampman has been consistently kick-ass for a while now, I wouldn't call him a poor anything.

I love Jared Allen but I appreciate the well-rounded excellence that is Aaron Kampman. One of the best run stopping DE's in the league.
As well as one of the best pass rushers in the league.
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Yeah one of those gritty guys that does everything well, but does'nt do anything flashy so no one notices. Well almost.
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Yeah one of those gritty guys that does everything well, but does'nt do anything flashy so no one notices. Well almost.
It's hard not to notice him if you watch Packers games. The true under-appreciated player on that line is Ryan Pickett. He's a top-notch NT against the run and the Packers are a different team when he's not in the lineup.
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id take vanden bosch over both
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Ok, I love me some Tuck, but whoever the **** said he's better than Kampy already is off their rocker. Come one.
I think Tuck is better, he just doesn't have the stats yet. He will though. Tuck and Mario are top 2.
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What's highly disappointning to me is that...

The minnesota D-Line didn't envelope (yes, envelope) the colts... I don't know why, but with that much talent and weight bearing down on them, I'm not particularly sure that the colts should have theoretically been doing anything...

They were good, just not 'dominant'...
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