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Old 09-30-2008, 06:22 PM    (permalink
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Are you saying that other than the three you listed, LT, Peterson and Barber, the rest are dime a dozen?

Because there are quite a few that I don't consider dime a dozen.
Wow, you people need to use a little common sense before trying to attack a person's posts. He obviously didn't mean those were the only ones worth anything, cause he said "etcetera". Geezus, context clues people.
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Are you saying that other than the three you listed, LT, Peterson and Barber, the rest are dime a dozen?

Because there are quite a few that I don't consider dime a dozen.
Why? Steven Jacksons and Brian Westbrooks come along every year.
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Not a fluke, way to overreact. It's only a quarter of the way into the season, Grant is going to get going and soon at that.

LOL, if it wasn't for the Packers cautiously trying to ease him in, he would have put a consecutive hundy on the Vikings defense. Give me a break.
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I'll give him right now his hammy is more then likely still bothering him, I mean its not like he changed teams, but right now he's just not running effective, bad hammy mixed in with little training camp spells trouble especially if your not a seasoned vet.


He won't get that pass all year, or very long for that matter, but I'm willing to give him some time, but if he looks like crap vs Detroit you really have to wonder, if it's making him this in-effective he needs to be sitting out.
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Why? Steven Jacksons and Brian Westbrooks come along every year.
Oh really. Give me some examples of the Jackson's and Westbrooks of the past decade?

If Jackson had an OL to block for him he'd put up ridiculous numbers, and Westbrook is arguably the most complete back in the NFL (and yes I know about that LT guy out West).
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Wow, you people need to use a little common sense before trying to attack a person's posts. He obviously didn't mean those were the only ones worth anything, cause he said "etcetera". Geezus, context clues people.
Attacking? No one is attacking anyone, chill.
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Not a fluke, way to overreact. It's only a quarter of the way into the season, Grant is going to get going and soon at that.

LOL, if it wasn't for the Packers cautiously trying to ease him in, he would have put a consecutive hundy on the Vikings defense. Give me a break.
Oh yeah, LOL, cause if it weren't for one lucky run all year, he'd have a putrid 2.38 YPC. Oh, but he woulda put up a consecutive hundy on the Vikes, right?

In 54 tries outside his one long run, his longest would be of 9 yards. There's no way around that.
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Oh really. Give me some examples of the Jackson's and Westbrooks of the past decade?

If Jackson had an OL to block for him he'd put up ridiculous numbers, and Westbrook is arguably the most complete back in the NFL (and yes I know about that LT guy out West).
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Oh yeah, LOL, cause if it weren't for one lucky run all year, he'd have a putrid 2.38 YPC. Oh, but he woulda put up a consecutive hundy on the Vikes, right?

In 54 tries outside his one long run, his longest would be of 9 yards. There's no way around that.
Grant delivers big runs though, and he's getting his explosiveness back (otherwise that long run against the Vikings is likely a TD).

Detroit decided they would shut the run down (uh, good call), and the Packers' offensive line struggled against the physical fronts of Dallas as well as Tampa at home where they play their best.

It's like knocking Matt Schaub for struggling so far, when the guy played at Pittsburgh and at Tennessee. Tough match-ups to start the schedule.
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Benson has just signed with the Bengals too LOL. The bengals should just play to their strength. Steal all the other team's gear pre game so they can't play.
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seems like you mock people a lot too though, unless I'm misinterpreting your posts.
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He did well in what? 8? 10? games. even in the playoffs he started to decline(mainly the Giants game). He's a nice option to have, but shouldn't be a starting back
He did well??? How about turning one of the worst rushing teams at the start of last season around and making it one of the better ones. Decline in the playoffs??? 201 Yards againist the Seahawks is decline, almost a new NFL record in the playoffs? Ya he didnt put up 201 againist the Giants but he also only got the ball 13 times instead of 27.

This fluke of a runner is also the only person to put over 100 on the Vikings last year. He also almost put up 100 again week 1 and his hammy was poop then. And our o-line isnt that good so thats not why.


Ryan Grant againist the Vikings #1 Rush D last year, #3 Rush D this year

Week 10 2007- 25 Rushes, 119 Yards, 4.8 Avg
Week 1 2008 - 12 Rushes, 92 Yards, 7.7 Avg

Joseph Addai against the Vikings
Week 2 2008- 15 Rushes, 20 Yards, 1.3 Avg

DeAngelo Williams and Jonathan Stewart against the Vikings
Week 3 2008- (Williams) 10 Rushes, 27 Yards, 2.7 Avg
Week 3 2008- (Stewart) 7 Rushes, 15 Yards, 2.1 Avg

Chris Johnson and Lendale White against the Vikings
Week 4 2008- (Johnson) 17 Rushes, 61 Yards, 3.6 Avg
Week 4 2008- (White) 11 Rushes, 13 Yards, 1.2 Avg


LT against them last year.... 16 Rushes, 40 Yards, 2.5 Avg
Westbrook against them last year.... 21 Rushes, 46 Yards, 2.2 Avg



I give up.... Grant has had 2 awful games yes, But he has had 2 good games as well, I'll give him more time and wait until he sees the ball 20+ times instead of 12-13 max.

Minny Week 1- 12 Rushes, 92 yards, 7.7 Avg
Dallas Week 3- 13 Rushes, 54 yards, 4.2 Avg
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He did well??? How about turning one of the worst rushing teams at the start of last season around and making it one of the better ones. Decline in the playoffs??? 201 Yards againist the Seahawks is decline, almost a new NFL record in the playoffs? Ya he didnt put up 201 againist the Giants but he also only got the ball 13 times instead of 27.

This fluke of a runner is also the only person to put over 100 on the Vikings last year. He also almost put up 100 again week 1 and his hammy was poop then. And our o-line isnt that good so thats not why.


Ryan Grant againist the Vikings #1 Rush D last year, #3 Rush D this year

Week 10 2007- 25 Rushes, 119 Yards, 4.8 Avg
Week 1 2008 - 12 Rushes, 92 Yards, 7.7 Avg

Joseph Addai against the Vikings
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Week 3 2008- (Williams) 10 Rushes, 27 Yards, 2.7 Avg
Week 3 2008- (Stewart) 7 Rushes, 15 Yards, 2.1 Avg

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Week 4 2008- (Johnson) 17 Rushes, 61 Yards, 3.6 Avg
Week 4 2008- (White) 11 Rushes, 13 Yards, 1.2 Avg


LT against them last year.... 16 Rushes, 40 Yards, 2.5 Avg
Westbrook against them last year.... 21 Rushes, 46 Yards, 2.2 Avg



I give up.... Grant has had 2 awful games yes, But he has had 2 good games as well, I'll give him more time and wait until he sees the ball 20+ times instead of 12-13 max.

Minny Week 1- 12 Rushes, 92 yards, 7.7 Avg
Dallas Week 3- 13 Rushes, 54 yards, 4.2 Avg
since when is saying someone did well an insult? please unbunch your panties.

and he had what? 30something yards against the Giants? lets say he averaged 3.5 YPC(not too stellar). 3.5 YPC is the same on 13 carries or 43.

I complemented him and gave my opinion from seeing him for the past 8+ years, and you go all crazy.(he also fumbled twice against the aforementioned seahawks, who are also the softest team in the league, but I'll let that go...)
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Oh yeah, LOL, cause if it weren't for one lucky run all year, he'd have a putrid 2.38 YPC. Oh, but he woulda put up a consecutive hundy on the Vikes, right?

In 54 tries outside his one long run, his longest would be of 9 yards. There's no way around that.
Geez, i hate having to re-post, but c'mon. You run the ball 54 times, and the farthest you can get it down the field is 9 yards?
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LOL, I kinda agree that runningbacks are a dime a dozen, but if Peterson and Tomlinson stand alone at the top, and you can put Marion Barber in there, you can definitely put a lot of others in that category. Barber doesn't strike me as that kind of back.... I mean, lets let him crack 1000 yards before we put him in a tier with Tomlinson who has been stellar since forever, and a guy that just came off one of the most spectacular rookie seasons we have seen, and is looking like he might explode again...
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Undrafted FA back who had a great still set in a zone blocking scheme. Great scheme they have and creative OC in terms of formation and Xs and Os of the running plays they have.
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seems like you mock people a lot too though, unless I'm misinterpreting your posts.
You mistake it for the only thing I do.
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He's Samkon Gado that got a payday.
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Grant isn't even in the 'dime a dozen' category. he has nothing going for him, and he really is just a bad running back who had a few good games.
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He is what he is, and the media and packer fans loved the story and hyped him up. He has good speed, good vision, and a great fit for a great offensive system. But now that teams have more film on him, they can adjust. I think he is a good RB, but was in a much, much, better system.
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