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Old 10-10-2008, 02:42 PM    (permalink
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Name five receivers in the modern era better than marvin harrison...

edit: bonus points: name five receivers more productive than marvin harrison.
Randy Moss, Michael Irvin, Cris Carter, Terrell Owens are four I'd put ahead off the top of my head.
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Old 10-10-2008, 04:21 PM    (permalink
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I'm glad I'm not the only one noticing the insane number of non-holding calls. Every week I watch the games with a buddy of mine and it seems like at least 2 or 3 times a game one of us is like, "Did you see that holding!?! Holy crap!" Then we will rewind it and it's freakin blatant. Offensive linemen are tackling guys from behind, especially on the interior. Nothing pisses me off more than horrendous officiating, and the NFL is getting pretty god-awful.
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Old 10-10-2008, 05:06 PM    (permalink
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I'm glad I'm not the only one noticing the insane number of non-holding calls. Every week I watch the games with a buddy of mine and it seems like at least 2 or 3 times a game one of us is like, "Did you see that holding!?! Holy crap!" Then we will rewind it and it's freakin blatant. Offensive linemen are tackling guys from behind, especially on the interior. Nothing pisses me off more than horrendous officiating, and the NFL is getting pretty god-awful.
Try making a drinking game of it. :D
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Old 10-10-2008, 05:08 PM    (permalink
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Try making a drinking game of it. :D
Ha, my liver wants to make it past Week 10.
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Old 10-10-2008, 05:32 PM    (permalink
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Because I'm not going to convince you either way. You like receivers who play like vaginas, fine, whatever. I don't. We're not going to convince each other. It's not happening. There's a reason why pretty much any decent receiver in the league has a higher YPC and YAC than Marvin, excuses be damned.
There's a reason why every receiver in the league has less first downs than Marvin over the past few years, too.
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Old 10-10-2008, 05:35 PM    (permalink
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Ha, my liver wants to make it past Week 10.
you mean week 8?
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Old 10-10-2008, 05:38 PM    (permalink
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you mean week 8?
depends on how many games I get to watch.

Need to stock up on some Tequila and Vodka.. going to need about 3-4 Half Gallons to make it to week 10.
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Old 10-10-2008, 05:46 PM    (permalink
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depends on how many games I get to watch.

Need to stock up on some Tequila and Vodka.. going to need about 3-4 Half Gallons to make it to week 10.
thats a hell of mix you got going on
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Old 10-10-2008, 05:51 PM    (permalink
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thats a hell of mix you got going on
If I'm doing 1 shot per bad call or non-called serious hold... I'm going to need to drink a lot.
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Old 10-11-2008, 10:41 AM    (permalink
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Randy Moss, Michael Irvin, Cris Carter, Terrell Owens are four I'd put ahead off the top of my head.
Are all four of those 'complete' receivers?

Hell no.

Besides, the first you list.. Randy Moss doesn't get much YAC... 3.9 over his career. Marvin Harrison? 3.3... Marvin statistically beats him though, and that's WHEN he had reggie wayne as well... He's beat people with great speed and route running...

And this list is a joke because you don't have jerry rice. That is pretty much killing all credentials in my book.
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Old 10-11-2008, 11:17 AM    (permalink
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Are all four of those 'complete' receivers?

Hell no.

Besides, the first you list.. Randy Moss doesn't get much YAC... 3.9 over his career. Marvin Harrison? 3.3... Marvin statistically beats him though, and that's WHEN he had reggie wayne as well... He's beat people with great speed and route running...

And this list is a joke because you don't have jerry rice. That is pretty much killing all credentials in my book.
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The biggest props for Marvin Harrison for me is that a couple years ago when Moss and Owens and Marvin were all at their peak ESPN did an interview with corner backs and easily 70% of them asked said he was the hardest receiver to cover in the NFL. That means a lot more to me than stats ever can.
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