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10-14-2008, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Vox Populi
AFC
QB: Brett Favre, Jay Cutler, Peyton Manning
RB: Marshawn Lynch, Ronnie Brown, Ladanian Tomlinson
WR: Brandon Marshall, Andre Johnson, Reggie Wayne, Lee Evans
FB: LeRon McClain
TE: Tony Gonzalez, Owen Daniels
C: Samson Satele, Jeff Saturday
G: Derrick Dockery, Alan Faneca, Justin Smiley
T: Michael Roos, David Stewart, D'Brickshaw Ferguson
DE: Robert Mathis, Mario Williams, Haloti Ngata
DT: Albert Haynesworth, Marcus Stroud, Jamal Williams
OLB: Keith Bulluck, Thomas Howard, Derrick Johnson
ILB: Ray Lewis, Paul Posluszny
CB: Nnamdi Asomugha, Rashean Mathis, Quentin Jammer
SS: Donte Whitner
FS: Ed Reed
K: Rian Lindell
P: Brian Moorman
ST: Montell Owens
RS: Do they still have this or did I click too fast?
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Im pretty sure at this rate Cortland Finnegan will be there. And also James Harrison is playing like the best OLB in the league right now.
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10-14-2008, 10:05 AM
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No way Hester should go as the returner as of now. I mean I'm sure he will, but he doesn't deserve it.
22.6 KR average, 5.4 PR average, 0 TDs
That's not good.
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I think Reggie Bush will make it as a kick returner. He's a big named guy he definitely won't go as a runner with people like Portis, AD, Turner, Gore etc. Plus he has 3 punt return TDs
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10-14-2008, 10:10 AM
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Yeah, I don't see any reason as to why Reggie Bush should not make the Pro Bowl as their returner. He hasn't been returning kickoffs, but Bush averages 4 yards more per punt return than Hester does per kickoff return.
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10-14-2008, 10:13 AM
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Yeah Stills is one of those guys that seems to make every single special teams tackle.
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Yep Stills is a beast on SP teams can't believe the Chiefs let him walk.
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10-14-2008, 10:14 AM
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Yeah, I don't see any reason as to why Reggie Bush should not make the Pro Bowl as their returner. He hasn't been returning kickoffs, but Bush averages 4 yards more per punt return than Hester does per kickoff return.
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And he should've got 3 TDs against the Vikes if he hadn't fallen over.
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10-14-2008, 10:16 AM
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As a Titans fan I would have to say Cortland Finnegan looks like he is a lock, with Albert Haynesworth having a pretty good shot, KVB having an outside shot along with Keith Bulluck. Also, if Michael Griffin keeps going on the pace he is in interceptions and sacks for a safety, he would be the starting safety.
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10-14-2008, 10:19 AM
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Haynesworth is a lock. If he keeps this up and doesn't make the Pro Bowl, I might stop watching football.
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10-14-2008, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by aNYtitan
As a Titans fan I would have to say Cortland Finnegan looks like he is a lock, with Albert Haynesworth having a pretty good shot, KVB having an outside shot along with Keith Bulluck. Also, if Michael Griffin keeps going on the pace he is in interceptions and sacks for a safety, he would be the starting safety.
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Michael Griffin is my favourite young safety in the league and I really had hoped he fell to the Patriots but sure watching Merriweather make 1 play every 3 games will have to do. He should make it this year definitely, I think he's joint leader in the league for INTs and he's got a sack
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10-14-2008, 10:25 AM
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They allow you to vote as many times as you want? They even encourage it. weird.
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10-14-2008, 10:26 AM
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Michael Griffin is my favourite young safety in the league and I really had hoped he fell to the Patriots but sure watching Merriweather make 1 play every 3 games will have to do. He should make it this year definitely, I think he's joint leader in the league for INTs and he's got a sack
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Yeah tied in the league lead with Finnegan and Charles Woodson. I remember I liked the pick the year he was drafted, but a lot of analysts were wondering why the hell we took a safety. Luxury pick my a$$, it turned out the be the right one
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10-14-2008, 10:27 AM
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Yeah, I don't see any reason as to why Reggie Bush should not make the Pro Bowl as their returner. He hasn't been returning kickoffs, but Bush averages 4 yards more per punt return than Hester does per kickoff return.
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Not a chance that Bush gets in imo.
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10-14-2008, 10:41 AM
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I won't post who I voted for, I will say that I didn't vote for just N.O. players, but those who I would like to see play and/or players whos play this year has been far above par. I hate Pro-Bowl and All-Star popularity contests.
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10-14-2008, 11:16 AM
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Not a chance that Bush gets in imo.
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26.9 ave-21 yards longer than Hester's ave.
71 long
3 TD(should've been 4)
The only way he doesn't make it is if Payton stops using him in case he gets hurt.
The closest to his ave in the NFC with 10 or more returns is Will Blackmon-11.8. The league ave seems to be about 6.5/7. No one comes close to Reggie at this point in the season.
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10-14-2008, 11:25 AM
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Anyone else always feel like its way to early to open the polls? I mean remeber the commercials with Rexy sexy after he had a few good games. We all remeber what happened after that.
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10-14-2008, 11:28 AM
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Anyone else always feel like its way to early to open the polls? I mean remeber the commercials with Rexy sexy after he had a few good games. We all remeber what happened after that.
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The voting for the pro bowl in general is a joke. You seen it last year when Jason Taylor got in ahead of Mario Williams. A lot of times its not how good the player is that year but a lot on how big their reputation is.
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10-14-2008, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by AntoinCD
10 RET
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26.9 ave-21 yards longer than Hester's ave.
71 long
3 TD(should've been 4)
The only way he doesn't make it is if Payton stops using him in case he gets hurt.
The closest to his ave in the NFC with 10 or more returns is Will Blackmon-11.8. The league ave seems to be about 6.5/7. No one comes close to Reggie at this point in the season.
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The anti-Bush campaign will keep him from getting in.
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10-14-2008, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by AntoinCD
10 RET
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26.9 ave-21 yards longer than Hester's ave.
71 long
3 TD(should've been 4)
The only way he doesn't make it is if Payton stops using him in case he gets hurt.
The closest to his ave in the NFC with 10 or more returns is Will Blackmon-11.8. The league ave seems to be about 6.5/7. No one comes close to Reggie at this point in the season.
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10-14-2008, 12:21 PM
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Sorry missed him out. Even still he's 13 yards less per ave than Bush
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10-14-2008, 12:37 PM
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Wallace Wright for the Jets as a special teamer
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10-14-2008, 01:54 PM
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Haynesworth is a lock. If he keeps this up and doesn't make the Pro Bowl, I might stop watching football.
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Who cares. Its just the pro bowl. Its some nice accolades, but if a player misses out then its not a big deal.
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10-14-2008, 02:10 PM
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Who cares. Its just the pro bowl. Its some nice accolades, but if a player misses out then its not a big deal.
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Do you think a player who never makes Pro Bowl in his career, but does his job every day has a legitimate shot at making the Hall of Fame?
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10-14-2008, 02:18 PM
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Do you think a player who never makes Pro Bowl in his career, but does his job every day has a legitimate shot at making the Hall of Fame?
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If Fred Taylor had not made it last year it would have been a great case study for that theory. In a lot of ways it still is.
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10-14-2008, 02:27 PM
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Do you think a player who never makes Pro Bowl in his career, but does his job every day has a legitimate shot at making the Hall of Fame?
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You have got to do more than just do your job to be in the HOF. Your play better stand out regardless of which team you are on and how much publicity your market gets. That's a dominant player who is worthy of HOF.
I agree that having a resume of x amount of pro bowls made consecutively helps a lot, but thats when you are looking at their whole career. If you dominate without going to the pro bowl for a year its understandable. Two years? Maybe. If you continue your great play for 3 or more years and have yet to make the pro bowl, then something is wrong. Other than that, I do not think its such a big deal.
If a player is Hall of Fame worthy, their play will get noticed. Thats just my opinion. If not by the casual fans, then by the analysts and associated press. All-Pro teams are a lot more legit in my opinion.
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10-14-2008, 02:33 PM
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They allow you to vote as many times as you want? They even encourage it. weird.
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It has everything to do with advertising and overall page views. The entire system is a gimmick.
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10-14-2008, 06:34 PM
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The NFL should do what the MLB did in the 30's. Take it out of the fans' hands.
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