San Francisco 49ers Discussion

[49ersfan_87]

So if we have our choice of Oher, Monroe, and Smith as our LT, which one do you guys want to pick?

BTW, im on board with getting a young, legit franchise LT and moving Staley back to RT. Staley has improved every game but he is still too inconsistent. And if we have a shot at a legit LT, we cant pass it up. With Baas, Heitmann, and Rachal manning the middle. That would be a success, as would getting a QB who doesn't hold onto the ball forever..

[Menardo75]

Staley is our franchise LT.... and I would want Andre Smith. Big physical player.

[Brent]

I want an OC who is into old-school-style run it up the middle ala John Fox; a strong power running game that eats up the clock.

[Menardo75]

All for that.

[abaddon41_80]

Originally Posted by 49ersfan_87

So if we have our choice of Oher, Monroe, and Smith as our LT, which one do you guys want to pick?

BTW, im on board with getting a young, legit franchise LT and moving Staley back to RT. Staley has improved every game but he is still too inconsistent. And if we have a shot at a legit LT, we cant pass it up. With Baas, Heitmann, and Rachal manning the middle. That would be a success, as would getting a QB who doesn't hold onto the ball forever..

Smith because he will make the best right tackle. Staley has been good this season outside of a few boneheaded plays, like wiffing on Peterson last week, and is improving. Give him more than 8 games, during most of which he played good to great, to call him a failure at left tackle because of a few bad plays.

[Madirishman]

Adding another franchise-type tackle to Baas, Heitman/Wallace, Rachal, & Staley would make an awesome young O-Line that I would be very happy with, moving forward to next season.

[Menardo75]

Of yeah for sure.

[49ersfan_87]

Originally Posted by abaddon41_80

Smith because he will make the best right tackle. Staley has been good this season outside of a few boneheaded plays, like wiffing on Peterson last week, and is improving. Give him more than 8 games, during most of which he played good to great, to call him a failure at left tackle because of a few bad plays.

I didn't say he is a failure. I said if we had the opportunity to draft a blue-chip legit LT if one is there, we have to jump on it. Especially considering how little depth we have at OT. But if we draft a good RT and keep Staley at LT, whatever. Same difference.

[edgrenade]

I would rather take a "skilled" position in this draft after having such a boring draft the last time around.

[Brent]

I dont care if it's boring so long as it improves our chances of winning.

[YAYareaRB]

Originally Posted by Madirishman

More importantly, do we want to invest $70 Million in another unproven (in the NFL) QB?!?!?!

We can't keep signing these journey man unknowns. Alex Smith was picked because it was either him or Rodgers, both of whom ran gimmicky offenses in college. We gotta change up the trend sometime. Matthew Stafford is one guy I would take a chance on.

[Brent]

Originally Posted by YAYareaRB

Matthew Stafford is one guy I would take a chance on.

I agree with this.

[Menardo75]

Originally Posted by edgrenade

I would rather take a "skilled" position in this draft after having such a boring draft the last time around.

Boring wins games. I would take a chance on him too.

[Madirishman]

Well, boring was the way to describe our draft this last year, but they were in our positions of weakness. Since our Draft picks aren't getting much PT, we have almost all the same needs currently: DT, O-Line (OT), WR, CB. The only "new" need is QB I would add to that mix looking at '09. Now, do we draft for our need again, or do we let the young guys step up that were drafted in those positions in '08?

Obviously we need a QB, and I'll be anxious to take a closer look at this year's group in the offseason. It would be nice to find a gem in the 2nd-4th Rounds that can be developed.

I say Balmer will develop into a good player, but we still need a NT/Space Eater regardless of what D is played next year to help compliment Balmer, Justin Smith, Ray Mac, and Sopo. GET RID OF FRANKLIN!

I would like another "speed" corner, especially if Smith takes over Walt Harris' place. That will leave us with 2 physical corners (which I do like) but we need another corner with a quicker skillset that won't get burned by the faster WRs in the league.

Morgan looks to be the real deal but is still raw and Hill is hungry to prove that he is worthy of a 3rd Round pick, but I would consider adding a big framed "Red Zone" WR to the mix as well. Bruce should be good for another year, but I would bet that Johnson, and possibly Battle, are gone.

OT is a huge need, and I would love to get a "book end" for Staley. I believe it's worth investing another high pick on the right guy, but I don't want to reach (like some teams were later in the 1st Round this year) for an OT just to get one. Luckily (and UNLUCKILY) for the Niners, they'll end up with a Top 10 (or Top 5) pick to get their OT.

If an OT isn't available, I would love to obtain a pass rushing DE high in the 1st, effectively switching to a true 4-3 again.

[YAYareaRB]

1. Andre Smith OT, Bama
2. Mike Mickens CB, Cincy

or

1. Malcolm Jenkins CB, OSU
2. Phil Loadholdt OT, OK

I think these are some big needs but to put together a young secondary and offensive line is a plan for success. I think we're in heavy need of a pass rusher. I wish we would just make to the switch to a true 4-3 like others have expressed in this thread. I'm thinking Balmer would be moved to DT in a 4-3.

[abaddon41_80]

1. Andre Smith, OT, Alabama
2. Matt Shaughnessy, DE, Wisconsin

or

1. Brian Orakpo, DE, Texas
2. Phil Loadholt, OT, Oklahoma

or

1. Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma
2. Phil Loadholt, OT, Oklahoma

[Menardo75]

The reason why the class has not had a huge impact is because they drafted all developemental players. I think Rachal, Balmer, Smith, Morgan, and maybe even Larry Grant will all be great players. Just not this year. The Orakpo, Loadholt draft is probably my dream draft.

[dan77733]

Here's an idea -

FREE AGENCY -

DE Terrell Suggs
OLB Karlos Dansby

DRAFT -

CB Malcolm Jenkins

OL will look like this -

LT - Staley
LG - Baas
C - Heitmann
RG - Rachal
RT - Snyder

How's that guys?

I do want Oher but would love to have Jenkins as it appears after him, theres pretty much no one else who's considered a shut down CB.

[Brent]

If Brian Orakpo is there, I dont see how we can pass on him. We need all the pass rush help possible.

[Menardo75]

Originally Posted by Brent

If Brian Orakpo is there, I dont see how we can pass on him. We need all the pass rush help possible.

Yeah Orakpo would be a great addition.

[FG4prez]

vontae davis is also a good shut down guy, but i dont think we need vernon's brother on the team.

[rainbeaukid2]

Originally Posted by Menardo75

The reason why the class has not had a huge impact is because they drafted all developemental players. I think Rachal, Balmer, Smith, Morgan, and maybe even Larry Grant will all be great players. Just not this year. The Orakpo, Loadholt draft is probably my dream draft.

hellz ya, i would love to get both of them. orakpo would add an instant pass rush. but i would only draft him if we can't get suggs in FA

[Brent]

If we're high enough and he's worth it, I would love to get Crabtree. We havent had a dominant WR since TO left.

[Menardo75]

Originally Posted by Brent

If we're high enough and he's worth it, I would love to get Crabtree. We havent had a dominant WR since TO left.

I am hoping Josh Morgan turns out to be that guy.

[Madirishman]

It would be nice to have 2 really good WRs. See: Cardinals, Arizona.